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Offline Cornish Boy

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St Georges Day
« on: April 19, 2009, 02:10:55 PM »
In case you didn't know - and that would put you in the majority - this
Thursday is St George's Day. If recent years are a guide, traditional
English cultural activities on display will include tabloid articles
about councils refusing to fly the George Cross in case they offend
Muslims, liberal handwringing about whether the whole thing is racist or
not, and a proud display of massive indifference from everyone else.

The English, these days, do indifference well. To some, this is a good
thing: it saves England from the kind of bombastic and sometimes
sinister flag-worshipping patriotism that the Americans, for instance,
go in for. Whether good or bad, it is certainly nothing new. Almost a
hundred years ago, in 1915, GK Chesterton published probably the most
famous poem ever written about the English, The Secret People, which
comes back again and again to the same line: But we are the people of
England, and we have not spoken yet.

The English, some would have you believe, have never really spoken much.
Those who view St George's Day with suspicion often claim that this is
an essentially reactionary nation, whose people remain in thrall to a
dying monarchy, a rose-tinted vision of the past and the collected works
of Jeremy Clarkson.

But England, like any nation, has many faces. And if there is an English
tradition worth celebrating on this St George's Day it is not our past
triumphs in commerce or empire, but our tendency towards rebellion,
dissent and resistance - a glorious tradition that, if we are not very
careful, could soon be defunct, just as we need it most.

The English radical tradition can compete with that of any other nation.
We, after all, killed our king before the French; we had our revolution
before the Americans; and we fought against the invasion of the nation
by a foreign king and his posse of robber barons before the Scottish.

  From the resistance to the Norman conquest through to the great
rebellion of 1381 that almost destroyed feudalism, the radical flowering
of the civil war, the movements against enclosure, the machine-breakers
and rick-burners of the early industrial age, the Chartists and the
Tolpuddle martyrs, the Suffragettes and the early Labour movement -
every ratcheting up of power and exploitation in England has been met
with an angry and often successful reaction from its people. There is
nothing indifferent or quietist about this version of the English story.
This is a nation that it feels good to be a part of.

So where has it gone? When we need it most, why do most of us seem to
have abandoned this spirit of resistance and liberty? Why do we live in
a nation of CCTV cameras, email surveillance, DNA databases and masked
riot police, watching in silence as more and more of our fundamental
liberties are stolen by our own government?

Culturally, we are seeing the strip-mining of much of what makes England
unique. Our independent shops and our local pubs disappear in their
thousands every year. Our rural communities are ravaged by second homes,
our high streets are carpet-bombed by superstores, our orchards and our
small farms are rooted out at rates unprecedented in our history. We are
selling off our health service and our schools. We are told that an
ever-rising GDP justifies all of it.

Meanwhile, the English are the victims of a constitutional con trick
that allows English legislation to be decided by Scottish and Welsh MPs,
but not the other way round. Thus the English are lumbered with, for
example, university fees and a market-based health service, despite the
majority of England's MPs having voted against both these things;
Scottish and Welsh MPs voted in Westminster to impose them on an
unwilling England, despite their own people having rejected the same
measures at home.

And what are the English doing about all this? At local level, some are
bravely resisting these trends; but most of us seem too busy shopping.
There is no rebellion in the offing, no revolution; not even a spate of
rick-burning. Has the flame of English rebellion guttered out?

In all societies, wrote George Orwell in 1940, the common people must
live to some extent against the existing order. Orwell reckoned that
the spirit of English dissent had been reduced to something that goes
on beneath the surface, unofficially and more or less frowned on by the
authorities. In the 21st century, this probably means binge-drinking
and vandalising speed cameras.

But the times demand more. England is still under the cosh of what
William Cobbett, one of our greatest radical writers, called the Thing
- a voracious capitalist system with an ever-greater appetite. It is not
too late to rediscover the righteous anger that coursed through the
veins of the Levellers and the Diggers, of Wat Tyler and Thomas Paine.
But one thing is clear: if the people of England don't speak soon, there
may be little left worth saying.

Hell Yeah !!

« Last Edit: April 23, 2009, 01:15:43 PM by Cornish Boy »

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« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2009, 06:33:03 PM »
At the risk of devolving this into a political debate, both Wales and Scotland have suffered for many years with legislation forced upon them that was neither wanted or needed. Cofiwch Treweryn, for example, or the Poll Tax. And the Chartists biggest victories were forged in the industrial valleys of Wales....

Devolution, led to its ultimate conclusion into the transformation of the UK into a loose confederacy of independent nations, is a blessing not a curse. The use of Welsh and Scottish MP's in forcing legislation was shameful, but was a product of party loyalty rather then any attempt to 'revenge' for past transgressions.



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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2009, 05:13:22 AM »
All I want is the Kernow Stannery Parliament reinstated. Cornwall cut off at the Tamar with it's own legislature and a massive guitar store in Truro.
I will not personally be taking part in any of the celebratory events down here because there are none.
And if anyone actually believes that someone called George managed to overcome a massive fire breathing dragon with a lance while riding a horse they are quite possibly on acid or deranged in some other way.
I have decided not to raise the Cornish Flag on Thursday, instead myself and three friends shall raise two fingers to my local council and it's ridiculous Bye-laws by having a gig in a friends back garden which backs on to Royal Square in the middle of town. I seriously doubt that we will be allowed to finish the first set before the stormtroopers cart us off.
Oh yeah, the kick drum will have four mics, and as none of the band has ever turned their amps up full Number Ten seems appropiate, that should do it.

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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2009, 05:20:53 AM »
Do it!!!   My local pub has just started having live music again and after 1 week the council are complaining about the noise.  This is the same council that everyother weekend holds old timey war recreations and fires cannons and guns all saturday and sunday afternoon on the sunniest weekend weve had all year.  

I intend to find out where they live, wait till about 8:00am on a sunday and fire my bass stack at their bedroom windows and their pets...see how they like it.


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« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2009, 06:08:55 AM »
We, in true Cornish tradition have smuggled all the gear to his house overnight, past the array of CCTV Cameras, away from the prying eyes of local busybodies and hard line advocates of the present council. Four Good Men seems to be the agreed band name and should make any reporting of the gig sound coolish to the media.
We are sitting working out the set list, Feel Like A Number (Bob Seeger) is the opener closely followed by Old Time Rock And Roll (Seeger) Nutbush City Limits (Turner). Well you get the picture Loud And Proud. To be honest I think as our venue is within stone throwing distance of the local Plod Shop, that's about all we will have time for. So if I'm away from the boards for a while you know the score. I've always stated that music is the next weapon, let's use it !!!!

Bit of a footnote here>>
We have hired all the equipment, so even if they confiscate the gear (Which I am sure they will try to do) the hire shop can get it back as they had no prior knowledge of it's intended use.
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« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2009, 06:32:40 AM »
We'll send you a washburn cake to HM Cider country if the worst happens. There will be a fret file inside so you can escape to cause sonic terrorism elswehere.

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« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2009, 07:01:12 AM »
I think you should also do Twisted Sister's We're not gonna take it ;-)

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« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2009, 07:17:19 AM »
...or f*ck the police by Rage against the machine?

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« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2009, 07:24:07 AM »
Gnome by Pink Floyd

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« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2009, 08:15:39 AM »
Steady on chaps, this is a minor protest and I would like to finish up in front of Magistrates not Crown Court. The council still may have a law that allows them to bury Martyrs up to their neck in sand at low water for all we know!!
As the youngest member of our gang is 50 we are not exactly capable of putting up any sort of struggle or for that matter even run away at any sort of pace, so we are kind of hoping that we can get away with Disturbing The Peace and Wear Our Asbos with pride.
As a small offering to our monarchy we (given the time) will play God Save The Queen (Pistols Version) when we spot the T.A.G team heading our way. Hopefully they will see the funny side and use the pepper spray instead of their batons. Maybe when they spot our banner stating Sex Drugs And Chocolate Roll they will realise that it is only a joke and let us finish the number before the inevitable Hello, Hello, What's Going On Here Then question.

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« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2009, 12:38:04 PM »
At least play I fought the law... ;-)

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« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2009, 05:28:59 PM »
If any of our Stateside friends read this thread, there'll be some head-scratching and WTF moments...

Good luck with the gig CB, would suggest you add I shot the sherriff to the set-list but you might wind up the Toytown Gestapo.

By the way, just re-read your first post on here. Top job, best rant in A Minor for a long time!
 

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« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2009, 05:55:12 PM »
theres a lot to read in here, anyone feel like writing a brief over view? I'm feeling brilliantly lazy tonight

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« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2009, 05:18:00 AM »
As the final episode in the St Georges Day saga, we plugged in and blew every fuse in my friends house plus the fuses in the equiptment. What we hadn't counted on was the old wiring in this part of town, no circuit breaker was fitted allowing for a massive OOOOOOpppppsssss. We keep telling ourselves Well, the thought was there but very disappointed with non result.
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« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2009, 12:09:43 PM »
Still,its very rock and roll!!!

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