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Offline tom136

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« on: February 03, 2010, 01:57:59 PM »
Hi Folks,

Have a F52SWCE.
I have two issues:
 
First, The input jack (guitar end) keeps loosining up.
You need to access an internal nut through the sound hole.
Is a real bear to re-tighten short of going to LMI or Stewmac and paying $40. for a special tool... maybe that's the only answer.
Unfortunate design. Have seen others with an external nut for tightening.

Second, and maybe the reason for the constant loosining of the jack is that the input port is ridiculously tight for any standard cord jack.
With a little twisting can get the guitar hooked up... sounds sweet but when finished the jack doesn't want to come out... as in, just short of a crow bar, doesn't want to come out.
Have tried using a light app of dielectric lube... worked better but it's not right.

I want to address this issue so I can put it up for sale as I attempting to buy a good friend's Collings OM2H... Going over to the dark side, I guess...[;)]

Has anyone experienced this problem with any of the B-Band units?


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« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2010, 07:42:02 AM »
Tom,
Have not installed one of the BBand units so can't help you with specific answers.  However, I have installed other brands and know what you're talking about re: getting the jack tightened down properly.

Some end pin jacks come with a hole drilled thru the threads so you can put a small screwdriver thru to hold it still as you tighten.  I've not drilled a hole (but I'm sure it's possible) but facing just the same issue, I did once cut a slot thru the top of the threads.  I then used a screwdriver to hold it in place while I tightened the external nut.  Then screwed on the trim piece and the slot was not visible.
 

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« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2010, 07:43:04 AM »
If the 1/4 plug is hard to go in, the jack is bad. It should go in with just a little resistance when fully seated. If it's new, return it for a replacement. If not new, replace the jack with a new one. They aren't hard to replace. Get one with an outside nut. Washburn probably put in a bad jack. I have a USA Custom Shop electric that was wired up with old pots, which I've since replaced.
 

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« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2010, 11:27:18 AM »
You guys are the best!
Sounds like some good advise! I can get a replacement end pin jack w external tightening nut unit from Stew Mac for about $15. Think I'll go that way then it's good as new.
 
Let me know if you know anyone who is looking for a good condition F52SWCE. Also, will have a WB400SWK rosewood / acoustic that will be ready to sell for +- $300. + whatever it costs to ship ($50. maybe). Both about 1 1-2 yr old, V.Good condition, No fret wear. The F-52SWCE was a B-stocker, Nick in finish on topboard, Slight clouding of finish in the cutaway curve, New Jack ;) The Rosewood Mini-Jumbo is close to spotless. Nice upgrades on the mini... bone nut and saddle and Pheasant Eye bone Bridge pins: Abalone dot with Copper ring.
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« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2010, 10:36:45 AM »
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Originally posted by nogin007

If the 1/4 plug is hard to go in, the jack is bad. It should go in with just a little resistance when fully seated. If it's new, return it for a replacement. If not new, replace the jack with a new one. They aren't hard to replace. Get one with an outside nut. Washburn probably put in a bad jack. I have a USA Custom Shop electric that was wired up with old pots, which I've since replaced.


So, I ordered a new jack from Stew Mac. They advertised it as a Fishman product. It came Friday. The jack had an internal Switchcraft logo... so I assume that Switchcraft makes the hardware for Fishman... who knew.. Probably a China product[;)]
You were right. It was a breeze to put in. Just need to get the right angle with my fore arm to get through the sound hole to work on the inside nut .... j-u-s-t was able to reach it with my fingertips.
Of course the fingertips are still numb from my continuing attempt to learn a u-tube lesson by Tommy Emmanuel/ Angelina. Scott Tsai gives some great Tommy E. lessons if anyone is so inclined.
Attempted to insert a couple images of my adventure.... let me know how this can be done as the Insert image button did not do the trick.
tsp

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« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2010, 08:55:31 PM »
Some of us use Photobucket to post pics Tom. Free and easy. Set up an account, after your pics are in, click on bottom option under pic to copy and paste right into your post.
http://photobucket.com/
 

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« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2010, 10:54:36 AM »
Thanks for the direction re: photobucket. Uploaded the pics. I'm feeling pretty technologically inadequate here. Directly under each image is a choice of four code options to include: Email & IM code, Direct Link code, HTML and IMG codes together with a bunch of choices of where you want to share the pics...ie: Facebook, My Space, iGoogle and more.... But I don't really see how you get to the place that give you the good old option of copy and paste.
Can you lend a hand to me w this challenge... I am sure it's right in front of me...here...<div style=width:480px;text-align:right;><embed width=480 height=360 src=http://static.pbsrc.com/flash/rss_slideshow.swf flashvars=rssFeed=http%3A%2F%2Ffeed816.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz87%2Ftom136%2Ffeed.rss type=application/x-shockwave-flash wmode=transparent /><a href=http://photobucket.com/redirect/album?showShareLB=1 target=_blank><img src=http://pic.pbsrc.com/share/icons/embed/btn_geturs.gif style=border:none; /></a><a href=http://s816.photobucket.com/albums/zz87/tom136/ target=_blank><img src=http://pic.pbsrc.com/share/icons/embed/btn_viewall.gif style=border:none; /></a></div>.
This is what I got ... looks scary.I know I wouldn't click on that
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« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2010, 11:47:11 AM »






Guess what, I think I did it! Maybe....Please let me know if you can access this. If so I will go to forum section re: pics of your collection and post some images there as well.

Thanks for your help w this!
Tom
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« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2010, 08:02:39 PM »
quote:
I don't really see how you get to the place that give you the good old option of copy and paste.

Click on the bottom option Tom, the IMG code, it'll turn blue. Then right click on it to copy, then right click inj your post to paste the pic in.
 

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« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2011, 12:17:23 PM »
Sounds like you guys know exactly what I'm experiencing ;n)  Jammin' away and then CRACKLE SNAP POP POP POP!  Then a little shimmy with the chord and your connected again, and then SNAP SNAP POP CRACK!  Uhg, frustrating...  It's clear that my jack is repeatedly becoming loose.  I replaced it one time, and it worked properly for about 8 months, and then it all started again.  I'm looking for a recommend on a tightenable jack for my WD32SCE.  Anyone have a suggestion?  Does the replacement end pin jack w external tightening nut unit from Stew Mac fit the WD32 line?  

Thanks!
Jeremy