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Offline Lafayette2010

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Dylan on Fraulini and Hauver?
« on: February 18, 2010, 04:10:39 PM »
Recently, I learned that ladder braced 12-strings have a different tone than x-braced 12-strings.  The 12-strings (Fraulini and Hauver) I have heard have been instruments of rag time music.  While I like and admire the music and the players I am not into rag time.  What, I want to knows is: does anyone play Dylan, Cash, and Hank Williams, etc using Fraulini and Hauver guitars?

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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2010, 04:27:06 PM »
Hi Lafayette, asked around over here?

http://fraulini.blogspot.com/

They look interesting, but I'd much rather have a D46S12.

http://www.washburn.com/acoustics/southwest-series/

 

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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2010, 04:42:24 PM »
Are you asking this same question on EVERY forum you can find?
Now, THAT is a very specific kind of troll!

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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2010, 04:55:05 PM »
Legitimately looking for info on forums seems OK. Trolling to make trouble like ours does, something entirely different, wouldn't you say Rocket?
 

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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2010, 05:01:42 PM »
Uh-huh.
Seemed like an unusual (and very specific) question to drop on Washburn forum so I Googled and it popped up on a bunch of forums all at once... weird.

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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2010, 05:07:50 PM »
What's your take on those ladder braced jobs Rocket?
 

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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2010, 05:15:37 PM »
If you want to sound like Dylan, play a Gibson.  That's what he does, did, and doos. (Regardless of the comment made one who shall remain nameless a week or so ago, Dylan being booed because he didn't have his Martin Dread.)

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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2010, 05:25:59 PM »
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Originally posted by Pike

What's your take on those ladder braced jobs Rocket?

I've never seen a ladder-braced Les Paul!
I've got a 335 with a 2x4 down the center... does that count as bracing?

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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2010, 05:41:47 PM »
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I've never seen a ladder-braced Les Paul!
I've got a 335 with a 2x4 down the center... does that count as bracing?
Heh heh, good answer bud..
 

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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2010, 06:37:00 PM »

Could I beg the question? Why would someone intentionally set out to sound like Dylan? If I wanted to sound like someone, he'd not be my first choice.  

Don't get me wrong, I love Dylan, was raised on him. I have most of his recordings. Listen to something of his several times a week. But I wouldn't want to sound like him.  But then, I could imagine that if you wanted to sound like someone, (other than yourself) he'd be one of the easier ones to sound like.



Whenever you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however  improbable, must be the Truth .... Sherlock Holmes

I got some fiddles, some guitars, a bouzouki, a piano and some other stuff.
Nothing under the sun is new Watson. .... Sherlock Holmes

Washburn F10S (From Funky Munky, no G.C. stuff for me.)
Martin 00-15
Martin 000-28
Trinity College Bouzouki
Raul Emiliani Model 928 (Stradivari model)
Scott Cao STV-950 (Hellier model)
Eastman Master Model 905 (Stradivari model)
Roland F-110

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« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2010, 07:01:26 PM »
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But then, I could imagine that if you wanted to sound like someone, (other than yourself) he'd be one of the easier ones to sound like.


Yes, the man did a lot with a little eh Quinn...
 

Offline Quinn Spalpeen

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« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2010, 07:11:35 PM »
The genius is in his lyrics, his stories, and even in his presentation. And he is a true genius. It's Dylan if Dylan's doing it.  And lazy if someone else is trying to do it as he does it.  

Many of his songs have be 'covered' and done beautifully, but no real 'artist' would cover a Dylan tune and try to reproduce the sound of Dylan.  If you know six or seven guitar chords and own a capo, you can do any of his songs, but if you sound like Dylan doing them, then you certainly aren't a musician.

Maybe that's a little strong and harsh, but it's how I feel, honestly how I feel.



Whenever you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however  improbable, must be the Truth .... Sherlock Holmes

I got some fiddles, some guitars, a bouzouki, a piano and some other stuff.
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Nothing under the sun is new Watson. .... Sherlock Holmes

Washburn F10S (From Funky Munky, no G.C. stuff for me.)
Martin 00-15
Martin 000-28
Trinity College Bouzouki
Raul Emiliani Model 928 (Stradivari model)
Scott Cao STV-950 (Hellier model)
Eastman Master Model 905 (Stradivari model)
Roland F-110

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« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2010, 07:23:55 PM »
That says it perfectly Quinn...
 

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« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2010, 09:35:01 PM »
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Originally posted by Quinn Spalpeen

The genius is in his lyrics, his stories, and even in his presentation. And he is a true genius. It's Dylan if Dylan's doing it.  And lazy if someone else is trying to do it as he does it.  

Many of his songs have be 'covered' and done beautifully, but no real 'artist' would cover a Dylan tune and try to reproduce the sound of Dylan.  If you know six or seven guitar chords and own a capo, you can do any of his songs, but if you sound like Dylan doing them, then you certainly aren't a musician.

No one is more flummoxed by his vocal achievements than he is!

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« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2010, 02:30:58 PM »
Dear Gentlemen,

I mean no offense to anyone or anything nor am I out to cause contention with your members.  I believe that it necessary and is a very good idea to get as much information, ideas, and opinions as possible in order to achieve my goal of a dream 12-string guitar.

The reasons I went to this forum is because Washburn has a good reputation and thought that its players are descerning musicians that have experiece with many other guitars.

I am not trying to sound like Dylan or Cash I just enjoy doing their songs.

If you don't want me around please say so and I will leave.

Lafayette
I am not as smart as I think I am, but I am not as dumb as you think I am.  But, I do make a lot of typos.