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So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
« on: March 26, 2010, 09:28:41 PM »
SINCE THAT CANADIAN COMPANY TOOK IT OVER????? Any info? Are they still going to make acoustics?????
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« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2010, 10:44:54 PM »
They seem to be making some decent, affordable solid topped dreads Wiley, and hopefully we won't see crappy B stocks...

http://www.washburn.com/news-and-reviews/news/15-55-series.html
 

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« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2010, 08:53:00 AM »
So we lost another home grown guitar, when did this happen and who owns Washburn now?  I hate to sound so negative, but I can't think of a time when something like this happened, that it didn't turn out to be a bad thing.

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« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2010, 08:56:49 AM »
Erm, Ray, I wouldn't exactly call the old washburn acoustics home grown.. There weren't any MIA models!

Besides, whats wrong with us?

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« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2010, 09:12:38 AM »
Jam Industries now owns Washburn ray, they are a Canadian company. and it seems so far so good. There making some nice looking guitars and I visited my local wahsy dealer last week and seen some of jams gear around at great prices pretty good quality. Got one of their mic stands..not a great one but damn good for $20.
plus all the guys at the shop seemed to think it its a good thing.
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« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2010, 09:17:09 AM »
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Originally posted by Junior88

Erm, Ray, I wouldn't exactly call the old washburn acoustics home grown.. There weren't any MIA models!

Besides, whats wrong with us?

Washburn N2, Washburn F10S
I've got some other stuff too.. Everything from guitars to a Balalaika.


Nothing wrong with Canada at all, you guys make some of the best guitars in the world, my point is that it seems whenever a company is absorbed by another company, they lose their identity and the next thing you know, they don't exist anymore.  I love my Ovation too, but it seems like since the company was bought by Fender, the marketing has shriveled up.

And as for being home-grown, there were a lot of american made Washburns, my god, the company was established back in the 1800's, if that doesn't make it Home Grown, what is your definition of home-grown?

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« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2010, 09:30:45 AM »
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Originally posted by magoo99

Jam Industries now owns Washburn ray, they are a Canadian company. and it seems so far so good. There making some nice looking guitars and I visited my local wahsy dealer last week and seen some of jams gear around at great prices pretty good quality. Got one of their mic stands..not a great one but damn good for $20.
plus all the guys at the shop seemed to think it its a good thing.

Hope you're right Magoo!

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« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2010, 09:55:14 AM »
Any difference we (the consumer) see will be no different than what would have happen if parent company was in Houston, New York City, Miami, or L.A.   The guitars will still be made by the same people and same places as before.

If there are significant changes, they'll have little to do with where the new owners are from, less than the business and marketing strategies they choose.

A Canadian corporate headquarters, or U.K. or Irish, or even Chinese is just a building with decision-makers in it.  Smart businessmen can be officed any where.

What I want to know is where are they cutting costs to put out this new line at such low prices?  Were they over charging before?  Or have they reduced the quality in some significant fashion?





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« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2010, 02:31:26 PM »
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Originally posted by Quinn Spalpeen
What I want to know is where are they cutting costs to put out this new line at such low prices?  Were they over charging before?  Or have they reduced the quality in some significant fashion?


Or are they sacrificing profit to gain market share? That is not an uncommon approach in a downturn. In the event that JAM has established profit generators elsewhere in their stable, and with the industry buzz and scrutiny currently in play due to the acquisition, they may simply choose this time to cover their costs, get the product accepted as far and wide as possible, earn some good karma, and build earnings on that brand name metamorphosis down the road.

Strictly speculation on my part.
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« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2010, 02:49:09 PM »
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Originally posted by Tio Kimo

Strictly speculation on my part.


It makes sense,  I had been pondering the same thing, Fender for example had hiked their prices over a year ago by about a third.  Then in the last four to six months they are back down to the 2008 levels. I was thinking the economy and consumer wisdom was the reason.

But the new Washburn prices are way below the current prices of the old standard, D10S, which makes me think that they have found some place to significantly reduce their costs.

Nothing under the sun is new Watson. .... Sherlock Holmes

I have some of this, and some of that.
Nothing under the sun is new Watson. .... Sherlock Holmes

Washburn F10S (From Funky Munky, no G.C. stuff for me.)
Martin 00-15
Martin 000-28
Trinity College Bouzouki
Raul Emiliani Model 928 (Stradivari model)
Scott Cao STV-950 (Hellier model)
Eastman Master Model 905 (Stradivari model)
Roland F-110

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« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2010, 05:12:44 PM »
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And as for being home-grown, there were a lot of american made Washburns, my god, the company was established back in the 1800's, if that doesn't make it Home Grown, what is your definition of home-grown?


Yeah, I get that. But for the last however many years 80% of their guitars are made in asia.. I guess what I meant was that as soon as a company is producing guitars elsewhere, they aren't 100% home gown at all. I would say thet Washburn started out as a small bean sprout, grown organically, but bthen it started using fertelizer and stuff from Asia, losing its organic-ness, just because it has been trans-planted, doesn't mean it won't grow as well.


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I've got some other stuff too.. Everything from guitars to a Balalaika.

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« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2010, 05:18:02 PM »
That sweet little asian made F10s you're loving isn't any less a Washburn, eh Junior?
 

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« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2010, 05:44:02 PM »
My Yamaki Japanese made Prairie Song Custom sounds and plays better (to ME) than a Bourgeois Ricky Skaggs I put her up against, but that's just my humble opinion based upon personal preferrence.


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'93 Washburn J-9 Washington
'97 Washburn J-9 Washington  
'02 Washburn J28SCEDL Cumberland
'90 Washburn EA20YBR Festival
'83 Washburn D66SW Prairie Song Custom
'04 Washburn D104SCE  
'04 D'Aquisto CENTURA
'05 D'Aquisto CENTURA
(both violin burst)
'77 Electra X-410 Jazz Strad
'77 Electra Maple Pro (autographed by Bill Nelson)
'04 Aria PE SPL DLX SD
'82 Aria ProII Thor Sound 600
'05 Agile 2500-12
'06 Agile TC-630
Fender P-bass


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« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2010, 06:13:22 PM »
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That sweet little asian made F10s you're loving isn't any less a Washburn, eh Junior?



Don't f*** with my words like that Pike.. LOL

Im not dissing Asian guitars AT ALL. And im not saying that a company isn't a good company if it's products are from Asia. But what im saying is that a company isn't organically home-grown, if the asians helped by providing (quite amazing) products and labour.

Washburn N2, Washburn F10S
I've got some other stuff too.. Everything from guitars to a Balalaika.

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« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2010, 07:02:20 PM »
I know what you meant J, just ribbin' ya'...