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Offline mcloud10

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« on: April 02, 2010, 02:28:15 PM »
Ominous sounding, isn't it?

I believe it is time for surgery for my W240.  After a few months with a Bridge Doctor (which did help, BTW), the situation is that my 37 year old 12er must have a neck reset.  The bridge has a hairline lift on the back, also.  A thorough inspection underneath the top (with a good light and a 2.5 telescopic mirror) reveals NO loose ribs or gaps of any kind.  The bridge support isn't cracked, either.  Time (and my guitar top!) has crept up on me.

In addition, the body isn't exactly pristine.  There are numerous chips and tiny dints and troughs on the surface of guitar, and the back is in dire need of a polish - there are so many micro-scratches that it looks hazy on the back.

Now, a guitar like this is worth about $200.00 in decent condition, right?  So that means I won't be taking it to a shop to have the work done.  Well I could, but it wouldn't exactly be cost effective.

So...I'm doing the reset and restoration myself.  Crazy?  I don't think so.  I relish these kinds of challenges.  So, I'm beginning to read up and tool up for the new adventure.

Don't worry, I have mechanical, shop, paint and body work experience, piano repair/restoration experience and woodworking experience.  This just takes these skills to a new level.

Wish me success!  I'll be taking photos and documenting this project as I go.  And no, it won't be done by next Saturday. [;)]

Mark

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'73 Washburn W240
'08 Washburn D10SCE
'08 Washburn D10QBK (Son's)
'09 Washburn C104SCE Classical
'89 Washburn C10N Classical
'73 Sivertone Model 319
'85 Ibanez DCL St.Chorus
Rocktron Compressor
DiMarzio Acoustic Pickup
Peavey Backstage Amp
Lots of Smiles ;)
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'71 Yamaha FG-300 (in restoration)
'73 Washburn W240
'08 Washburn D10SCE
'08 Washburn D10QBK (Son's)
'09 Washburn C104SCE Classical (Son's)
'10 Washburn WC150SW Classical
Washburn Rover RO20 Travel Guitar
Behringer ACX450

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« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2010, 02:45:30 PM »
Cool Mark, looking forward to seeing your progress... BTW, I have the exact same guitar.
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« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2010, 02:52:13 PM »
Thanks, Al.  Yep, I know you do.  But your guitars are in great condition!  Man, I wish I had taken better care of my W240.  I remember keeping her in the attic - hot and cold (Ouch! I'm ashamed to admit that!) I'm sure that's the reason for these troubles.

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'73 Washburn W240
'08 Washburn D10SCE
'08 Washburn D10QBK (Son's)
'09 Washburn C104SCE Classical
'89 Washburn C10N Classical
'73 Sivertone Model 319
'85 Ibanez DCL St.Chorus
Rocktron Compressor
DiMarzio Acoustic Pickup
Peavey Backstage Amp
Lots of Smiles ;)
« Last Edit: April 02, 2010, 03:02:12 PM by mcloud10 »
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'71 Yamaha FG-300 (in restoration)
'73 Washburn W240
'08 Washburn D10SCE
'08 Washburn D10QBK (Son's)
'09 Washburn C104SCE Classical (Son's)
'10 Washburn WC150SW Classical
Washburn Rover RO20 Travel Guitar
Behringer ACX450

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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2010, 03:37:48 PM »
I wish you all the best with the surgery! And hope it goes well for you both.

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« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2010, 06:31:53 PM »
quote:
Originally posted by mcloud10

The time has come...

...the Walrus said,
to talk of many things,
of shoes-and ships-and sealing-wax,
of cabbages-and kings,
and why the sea is boiling hot,
and whether pigs have wings.
-[Lewis Carroll]-

Good luck with that Brewster!

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« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2010, 08:10:29 PM »
Good luck!!!
 

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« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2010, 09:56:44 PM »
Well, here is the first part of what will be a long process I fear.  The neck joint was indeed a Martin style, so it was able to be removed via the steam method.  The finish, however, is not lacquer, but polyester (NOT polyurethane).  This is a setback, because the stuff is really thick and hard to remove.  It was de-laminating around the neck joint and chipped in large chunks when I tried to score it.  This means I'll have to sand the entire guitar down, stain and refinish.  That alone will add many more hours and days to the process.  On the positive side, I'll be able to fix all of the dents and make the body nice and smooth again.

http://s373.photobucket.com/albums/oo172/MarkEdward_01/Washburn%2012%20String%20Guitar%20Project/

Mark

EDIT: I forgot to add that I'm changing the bridge and re-fretting the neck.  (Wow, that was easy to type...)

Mark

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'73 Washburn W240
'08 Washburn D10SCE
'08 Washburn D10QBK (Son's)
'09 Washburn C104SCE Classical
'89 Washburn C10N Classical
'73 Sivertone Model 319
'85 Ibanez DCL St.Chorus
Rocktron Compressor
DiMarzio Acoustic Pickup
Peavey Backstage Amp
Lots of Smiles ;)
« Last Edit: April 27, 2010, 08:02:47 AM by mcloud10 »
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'71 Yamaha FG-300 (in restoration)
'73 Washburn W240
'08 Washburn D10SCE
'08 Washburn D10QBK (Son's)
'09 Washburn C104SCE Classical (Son's)
'10 Washburn WC150SW Classical
Washburn Rover RO20 Travel Guitar
Behringer ACX450

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« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2010, 11:26:04 PM »
Whatcha gonna finish her with Mark?
 

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« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2010, 08:00:40 AM »
Lacquer...I think.  I was doing a bit of scraping on the finish last night.  It has multiple layers, and the middle layer is a dyed (tinted) finish.  That's what gave the body its dark color.  The binding is plastic (as expected), but the center body stripe and end block stripe are painted - not inlays.  I'm currently researching my options (Guitar ReRanch, etc.).  I'll probably go with a multi-layer lacquer, though.  Easy to drop fill and repair in the future.

Mark

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'73 Washburn W240
'08 Washburn D10SCE
'08 Washburn D10QBK (Son's)
'09 Washburn C104SCE Classical
'89 Washburn C10N Classical
'73 Sivertone Model 319
'85 Ibanez DCL St.Chorus
Rocktron Compressor
DiMarzio Acoustic Pickup
Peavey Backstage Amp
Lots of Smiles ;)
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'71 Yamaha FG-300 (in restoration)
'73 Washburn W240
'08 Washburn D10SCE
'08 Washburn D10QBK (Son's)
'09 Washburn C104SCE Classical (Son's)
'10 Washburn WC150SW Classical
Washburn Rover RO20 Travel Guitar
Behringer ACX450

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« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2010, 07:24:06 PM »
Yep, lacquer, way to go Mark...
 

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« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2010, 02:57:06 PM »
Good luck, from all of RYLANDIA! Muahahaha!

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I've got some other stuff too.. Everything from guitars to a Balalaika.

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« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2010, 11:28:34 PM »
Here is an update on my project:

Body and neck sanded down, frets installed, and bridge support overlay glued in.  I'm currently filling the pores in the mahogany in prep for applying finish.  After that, I'll reattach the neck, bridge, and finish her up.


Z-Poxy coats applied to the mahogany


The top after epoxy, before sanding


The maple bridge support overlay. I made it larger to accommodate the K&K Sound 12 string pickups I'm going to install.


The fretboard.  I've done some experimenting and can tell you what you should NOT do when replacing frets! [:o]

Sure, it's not perfect, but what a learning experience!  And no, I will not refinish another laminate. [;)]

More pics at: http://s373.photobucket.com/albums/oo172/MarkEdward_01/Washburn%2012%20String%20Guitar%20Project/

Mark


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'73 Washburn W240 (Under Restoration)
'08 Washburn D10SCE
'08 Washburn D10QBK (Son's)
'09 Washburn C104SCE Classical
'89 Washburn C10N Classical
'73 Sivertone Model 319
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'71 Yamaha FG-300 (in restoration)
'73 Washburn W240
'08 Washburn D10SCE
'08 Washburn D10QBK (Son's)
'09 Washburn C104SCE Classical (Son's)
'10 Washburn WC150SW Classical
Washburn Rover RO20 Travel Guitar
Behringer ACX450

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« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2010, 06:29:59 AM »
awesome thread Mark. thanks for taking the time to post the photos in progression. That's gonna be a very satisfying day when you're making music again.

cheers!
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« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2010, 04:11:37 AM »
Nice work! Keep it up.
 

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« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2010, 10:56:59 PM »
I've done quite a lot since my last posting.  After sanding the body, I applied the KTM-9 by brush.  After doing this several times and spending much time sanding out irregularities and air bubble holes, I decided it was time to spray.  I initially ran out of KTM-9 and had to resupply.  This delayed me.  After resanding and applying a number of coats by spray gun I was able to get the smoothness I wanted.  I sanded with 1000 and 1500 after letting the KTM dry and cure for two or three weeks.  I finished up buffing with 3M Finesse it polish.  I used an auto-body polisher for the task, taking care not to buff onto a corner.

Body after polishing.

The back after polish.



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'73 Washburn W240 (Under Restoration)
'08 Washburn D10SCE
'08 Washburn D10QBK (Son's)
'09 Washburn C104SCE Classical
'89 Washburn C10N Classical
'73 Sivertone Model 319
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'71 Yamaha FG-300 (in restoration)
'73 Washburn W240
'08 Washburn D10SCE
'08 Washburn D10QBK (Son's)
'09 Washburn C104SCE Classical (Son's)
'10 Washburn WC150SW Classical
Washburn Rover RO20 Travel Guitar
Behringer ACX450