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« Reply #30 on: September 04, 2010, 06:28:51 PM »
Thats not a one piece neck by the way, ive had 5 Fe's and all have been 2 piece necks like yours. except for one






 

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« Reply #31 on: September 04, 2010, 08:24:31 PM »
Oh WOW brad.

Your neck IS a 2 piece!

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« Reply #32 on: September 05, 2010, 02:52:56 PM »
Hi Machado.  From the pics it is clear they are set-neck construction, but I can't tell from the pics if they are 2-piece laminated or not. Here's are some examples (sorry for a few bad pics).

Two-piece lamination:



Three-piece lamination:




5-piece lamination (notice the two small piece of maple inbetween the purple heart.




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« Reply #33 on: September 06, 2010, 11:45:52 AM »
no doubt that it is a set neck,but his is a 2 piece

heres a better example (2 piece) look towards the head stock.most if not all the productions were 2 piece, the 1 piece were on a few of the protos or made directly for Jon



 

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« Reply #34 on: September 06, 2010, 01:01:16 PM »
The neck it self minus the scarf joint is made of one piece of Mahogany, am I wrong?

When I said one-piece I ment the neck it self..
 

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« Reply #35 on: September 06, 2010, 01:05:39 PM »
in that case it would be just one piece.
 

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« Reply #36 on: September 06, 2010, 01:16:02 PM »
Yes, it is a one-piece.  The scarf joint isn't the lamination we were talking about.  All of them were set-necks as well.

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« Reply #37 on: September 06, 2010, 01:30:22 PM »
you keep talking about set necks, who said they weren't ?
 

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« Reply #38 on: September 06, 2010, 01:45:00 PM »
I had a 2005 X81 prototype with a real one piece neck...nothing glued onto it ie: (headstock). I guess having the headstock glued on to a 1 piece neck can be considered 1 piece... but not a true one piece IMO. The full true one piece neck was a option that Jon Donias wanted on his actual models that he'd receive and it takes more time in production from my understanding hence the reason why they didn't do it on the standard production run.
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« Reply #39 on: September 06, 2010, 01:50:02 PM »
i feel the same way about the neck a true one piece thats how my snake skin one is.
 

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« Reply #40 on: September 10, 2010, 12:05:38 AM »
I've decided to keep it, I'm gonna get her repaired by Washy, She's too much of a nice guitar to let go.
 

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« Reply #41 on: September 10, 2010, 12:32:47 AM »
dang, i was just about to swap that up front you.
 

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« Reply #42 on: October 16, 2010, 05:48:11 PM »
Ok listen up take the guitar and loosen the all the srings from 1 - 4 hange the guitar from the neck in the most hummide part of your house next to the washing machine. check every day to see if it twists back simple if that doesnot work then take all the strings off hange from neck it will twist back just have to play with it. every one else is a moron.
 

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« Reply #43 on: October 16, 2010, 06:54:18 PM »
every one else is a moron.

That's some kind of remark to make for a newbie.
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« Reply #44 on: October 17, 2010, 01:38:02 PM »
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Originally posted by nogin007

That's some kind of remark to make for a newbie.



Especially since the twisting/warping is the result of the wood doing what the fibers in it naturally want to do, not what the tension of the strings is causing it to do.  That will be shown when the stringless guitar becomes even more warped/twisted.  It's the sort of thing that no procedure can fix other than replacing the neck. An aged piece of wood is what is, trying to mechanically shape it will only give a temporary fix, which will be worse, faster each time you 'correct' it.

Trying to return the neck back to it's proper position will only make it easier for the wood to do it's thing, by flexing the fibers and making them weaker.

Tis a true thing with all wooden instruments (or all wooden things), after it's aged, there is little (nothing lasting) you can do about that kind of twisting.

Treatment and selection PRIOR to construction is the governing principal here.

By the By: Humidity rarely comes into play with necks, they are finished in such a way that little moisture can enter or leave the wood, which is not the case with body/top, which have one unfinished side open to the air. (I don't know, but think that in an unfinished neck humidity may be a minor factor, but again, the humidity or lack of is only going let the fibers do what they want to do faster, easier.)

Some wood is better than other wood, not species, just different pieces of the same species.
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