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« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2007, 06:09:11 AM »
The original Pics were removed as I linked to them from my google account. I guess they didn't like that. Well this guitar sounds great and I have a Bill Lawrence 500 I bought 5 or 6 years ago for my Gibson Explorer Gothic. It didn't sound like I wanted. I play pretty heavy music. I am going to try it in the N4 and see how it sounds. I will make a demo MP3 of stock BL / other BL / Duncan SH-6 Distortion and post link to them. Sometime this month. I am switching them out anyways to find what I want so this way people can hear the difference.

Thanks ZeGlobox. When I'm in France later this year I should stop by to see the mighty N4's in your arsenal!

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Ok you guys can be the judge. Padauk or stained?






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« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2007, 07:31:50 AM »
Here's the difference between paddy and padauk :




And here's a close up view of typical padauk wood grain :


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« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2007, 01:15:07 PM »
quote:
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The original Pics were removed as I linked to them from my google account. I guess they didn't like that. Well this guitar sounds great and I have a Bill Lawrence 500 I bought 5 or 6 years ago for my Gibson Explorer Gothic. It didn't sound like I wanted. I play pretty heavy music. I am going to try it in the N4 and see how it sounds. I will make a demo MP3 of stock BL / other BL / Duncan SH-6 Distortion and post link to them. Sometime this month. I am switching them out anyways to find what I want so this way people can hear the difference.

Thanks ZeGlobox. When I'm in France later this year I should stop by to see the mighty N4's in your arsenal!

quote:
Originally posted by stereodevil

Ok you guys can be the judge. Padauk or stained?










By the way... If you're into metal... I really think you should try a Bill & Becky L500-XL (not the 'Bill Lawrence USA'  one of course) or a Seymour Duncan SH13 (which is more or less a clone)


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« Reply #18 on: June 09, 2007, 04:43:00 PM »
I did some digging and looky what I found. It's about 5 or 6 years old and was in my Explorer. So now we will see what it sounds like in a N4. Although it says 500-XL I assume it is an L500-XL. I sent an email to Becky at Bill Lawrence. I called one time and he was a really nice guy.



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« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2007, 06:16:18 PM »
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I did some digging and looky what I found. It's about 5 or 6 years old and was in my Explorer. So now we will see what it sounds like in a N4. Although it says 500-XL I assume it is an L500-XL. I sent an email to Becky at Bill Lawrence. I called one time and he was a really nice guy.





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Great.. be sure not to use the 'bill lawrence USA' wiring ;-)
It's :
Black & Blue together on ground
Red and Green together and isolated
White on the pickup selector


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« Reply #20 on: June 09, 2007, 08:56:19 PM »
Cool, because I would have used the current wiring scheme. So the Bill Lawrence USA pickups. What's the deal with them. The name is just licensed?
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« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2007, 02:35:55 AM »
Bill Lawrence designed the pickups, went into a partnership with the guy that runs Bill Lawrence USA who is more of a business man than a music man like Bill... they produced the pickups together for years. Things went sour between them, there were legal battles. Bill Lawrence USA had the big time money and lawyers and easily tricked Bill. Bill made some mistakes of his own in the battle too. Long story short... they went their separate ways. Bill still makes his originally designed pickups one at a time by hand, which can be ordered directly from him while Bill Lawrence USA changed a bit for mass production on an assembly line resulting in less quality. They are still good pickups, but they don't compare to Bill's. Bill Lawrence USA are still allowed to use the Bill Lawrence name as well as Bill Lawrence himself. Hence... a lot of confusion and a debate that has been going on for years with no end in sight [:D]

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« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2007, 04:05:59 AM »
'nough said [8D]

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'04 mahogany (Mourning Widows) N4



rhaa I'd love to see that one !


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« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2007, 12:26:09 PM »
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'nough said [8D]

quote:
'04 mahogany (Mourning Widows) N4



rhaa I'd love to see that one !




by the way.. here's a padauk stained swamp ash :

http://groups.msn.com/WashburnGuitarOwnersGroup/mywashburnguitars.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=224



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« Reply #24 on: June 10, 2007, 04:23:37 PM »
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quote:
'04 mahogany (Mourning Widows) N4



rhaa I'd love to see that one !

[/quote]

Here ya go... gotta change that BL USA pup!!




I have never cared for the stained swamp ash... swamp ash doesn't take stain well. But they're still cool. I can definitely tell them apart from real paddy... no stripping needed... 2 totally different woods.

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« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2007, 04:49:16 PM »
quote:
Originally posted by crazee4nuno

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quote:
'04 mahogany (Mourning Widows) N4



rhaa I'd love to see that one !




Here ya go... gotta change that BL USA pup!!




I have never cared for the stained swamp ash... swamp ash doesn't take stain well. But they're still cool. I can definitely tell them apart from real paddy... no stripping needed... 2 totally different woods.

[/quote]

Yep...
This MN is really good looking.. Mahogany, right ?


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« Reply #26 on: June 10, 2007, 05:02:51 PM »
Yes, it's mahogany and very similar sounding to the paddy... it's heavy in weight like paddy too.

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Re: N4 Paduak alder/swamp ash? Help
« Reply #27 on: June 09, 2014, 11:44:46 AM »
Thanks for the add, appreciated!
I own a nice little arsenal of N4s (one N6), love them.

I have a question that fits this post really well.
I bought a returned Padauk n4 from Washburn, 2001... I think it is a "stained" model...

I am going to check the "pitting in the grain" when I get home this evening, but the COLOR of mine is very similar to the DARKER model.

Attaching a pic (overlook my puppy, she is a bit of a diva, lol)... even though the lighting makes it look lighter, you can see what I am saying (hopefully).

Thoughts, wisdom? What do you think I have here....

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2- 95 Swamp Ash N4s
1- 01 Padauk N4
1- 92 Tobacco Sunburst N4
1- 92 Red Lacquer N4
1- 08 Sapele Mahogany N4
1- 06 Military Green N6