Username: Password:

Author Topic: Factory Listing  (Read 2709 times)

Offline EJSteele

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 4
    • View Profile
Factory Listing
« on: March 11, 2015, 04:00:06 PM »
I am sure a request for the factory "codes" has been discussed before, so I am hoping a list exists.  If such a list is not available, does anyone know where "FC" would be?  Those are the first two letters in my D24s' serial number.  I know it is somewhere in China, but that is all.  Thanks!

Offline YerDugliness

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3054
  • Pearl, TX jams at: www.pearlbluegrass.com/
    • View Profile
Re: Factory Listing
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2015, 08:45:47 PM »
Yes, model numbers all carry specific codes indicating their place in a particular design (such as dreadnought, or Folk, etc) as well as the nature of the woods used in the construction (all-laminate, solid-wood soundboard with laminate sides an back, all solid-wood) and the serial numbers are coded to indicate the location of production, as well as (if I am correct about this) the date of manufacture and the particular number of guitar of that model made on that date.

A quick email to Washburn's customer service department ought to get you the information you seek...you're most likely right, I've never seen a Washburn with a "C" in the serial number that wasn't made in China...the mystery is what the F means. SC means Samick, China, while SI means Samick, Indonesia, so the "F" will tell you which location in China made your guitar.

Good luck...you may get that info from one of our more knowledgable members here, but if not try the Customer Service Department.

Cheers!

Dugly 8)
YerDugliness,Esq./Post No Bills
Guitar Playin' FOOL, attempting to age disgracefully!
Washburns:WD32SW,D61SW,C124SWK,WMJ21S(2),WGO26SCE, WMJ11S(now gifted),WSJ60SKELITE.
Other fine acoustics:Breedlove custom shop 000,Darren Hippner #506 Hauser,Takamini 2005 LTD,Epi Masterbilt AJ500RC

Offline Tony Raven

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 759
    • View Profile
Re: Factory Listing
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2015, 01:56:37 PM »
Okay, YerRoyalDugliness, you have inspired me to go on a dig.

My base assumption is that decent-quality guitars are probably made at only a few factories -- look at all the brands once built by Matsumoku, Hoshino, & FujiGen. I'm impressed with some Red China builders, not the least being SinoMusic Enterprise Ltd d.b.a. Aiersi, & Grand Reward Education & Entertainment d.b.a. Farida.

http://www.aiersiguitar.com/

http://faridaguitars.com/

GREE should be interesting to us, because it's fair certain they produce at least a few Washburn acoustic guitars. They also build for Fender, like the Squier Classic Vibe line.

To get myself up to speed onpossible factories, I figured Epiphone's history would provide a good list. Turns out
about 39 prefixes & variants.
http://epiphonewiki.com/index.php/Epiphone_Serial_Number_Decoding#Factory_Codes
Sure enough, there's LOTS of overlap with Washies, & the big names are there: Samick, SaeJun, Terada, Peerless, Cort, FujiGen, etc.

This thread began with a query about "FC" -- which is actually on the Epi list. In that case, as a recent-era guitar, it would possibly be Global Fine Supply, d.b.a. OEM-Guitar. While we might not know who the heck THAT might be, they're well-established, with a couple hundred models. Here's their acousticals --
http://www.oem-guitar.com/cpzs.asp?cp=Acoustic%20Guitar

Also on the list is "N"; my X-33 has an N- prefix, & is marked MIK. Per the Epi list, N might be Fine Guitars, which happens to be Korean (Incheon).

Until someone comes along with spomething more sane, eh?
M1SDL; XB-400 (natural), XB-400 (burg), XB-500 (teal); X-10, X-33; D46CESP, WCSD30SCE; BT-3, BT-4, BT-6, JB-80; WS-4; WI-66V; Lyon LCT24; OS Autoharps

resident troublemaker: http://forum.frugalguitarist.com/

Offline YerDugliness

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3054
  • Pearl, TX jams at: www.pearlbluegrass.com/
    • View Profile
Re: Factory Listing
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2015, 10:21:34 AM »
I surfed into those two sites, Tony, and found an old "friend".

There's a memory somewhere in this old brain of mine regarding a line of guitars that used a "zero" fret on the fretboard, very near to the nut. I think the name that comes to mind was "Conn" brand guitars, but that's also the name of a rather large electronics/appliance retailer here in TX so I could have that mixed up.

At any rate, I found the Conn (??) guitars easy to play and always credited that "zero" fret...don't remember seeing it on others until I saw it again here:

http://www.aiersiguitar.com/

Take a look at their higher end model, called the "Master Level Artist Double Top Guitar" series, the photo on the lower left---there's that old friend, the "zero" fret, again!!!

Since you've been around for quite a while, I'm curious what your perception of that "zero" fret might be. I know it sure felt easier for a beginner!

The Farida C63 and C52 were also interesting...more so the 63 because of the tonewoods...looks like the orientals are still turning out decent instruments. I can attest that there are an awful lot of incredible oriental guitarists...you'll see them on YouTube as well as other videos...and I've competed against them at the Winfield Bluegrass Festival in the International Fingerstyle Competition...they are VERY intense and competitive (I lived in Japan as a young child and was VERY impressed with that culture's creativity).

Cheers!

Dugly 8)
« Last Edit: April 01, 2015, 10:32:28 AM by YerDugliness »
YerDugliness,Esq./Post No Bills
Guitar Playin' FOOL, attempting to age disgracefully!
Washburns:WD32SW,D61SW,C124SWK,WMJ21S(2),WGO26SCE, WMJ11S(now gifted),WSJ60SKELITE.
Other fine acoustics:Breedlove custom shop 000,Darren Hippner #506 Hauser,Takamini 2005 LTD,Epi Masterbilt AJ500RC

Offline Tony Raven

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 759
    • View Profile
Re: Factory Listing
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2015, 04:45:33 PM »
Though the zero fret seemed to be on every garbage axe from my early years, I've also seen it on some darned good guitars. Right now, I've got a Framus Strato & Vox Panther bass (both ~1967); I'm sorta sure that Hagstrom & Mosrite made zero-fret guitars as well.

As for Conn, they produced a LOT of brass instruments, & seemed to dominate at my highschool. Still around, as Conn & Selmer, inlcuding brands like Armstrong, Bach, & King. As far as your memories, W'pedia sez that in 1970
Quote
the newly introduced Conn Guitar Division, operating out of Oak Brook, Illinois, began contracting the manufacture of a new line of acoustic guitars to Tokai Gakki in Japan. The acoustic guitar business continued production until 1978. In 1979, Conn tried to enter the highly competitive electric guitar market—introducing a line of some original model electric guitars, and some copies of existing popular brands, but abandoned this venture by mid-1980.
They're not withouttheir fans! Here's a little nostalgia for ya:
http://theguitarmedic.sharepoint.com/Pages/ConnAcousticGuitars.aspx
M1SDL; XB-400 (natural), XB-400 (burg), XB-500 (teal); X-10, X-33; D46CESP, WCSD30SCE; BT-3, BT-4, BT-6, JB-80; WS-4; WI-66V; Lyon LCT24; OS Autoharps

resident troublemaker: http://forum.frugalguitarist.com/

Offline Tony Raven

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 759
    • View Profile
Re: Factory Listing
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2016, 08:26:05 PM »
As someone cited this thread to me, I figure it's worthy of a bump. ;)

The Epiphone Wiki site might be permanently dead. Alternate versions of the Epi factories listing exist elsewhere, & this appears to be the best --
http://forum.gibson.com/index.php?/topic/54419-id-your-epiphone-here-serial-key-guitardater-link-factory-codes-a-worldwide-guide-part-3/page__view__findpost__p__612420

Again, I'm not very comfortable drawing parallels between Epiphone & Washburn... but nothing better has come along yet. ???
M1SDL; XB-400 (natural), XB-400 (burg), XB-500 (teal); X-10, X-33; D46CESP, WCSD30SCE; BT-3, BT-4, BT-6, JB-80; WS-4; WI-66V; Lyon LCT24; OS Autoharps

resident troublemaker: http://forum.frugalguitarist.com/

Offline woodrat

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 23
  • ragtime & blues fingerpicking
    • View Profile
    • U-tube acoustic blues guitar clips
zero fret
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2016, 05:14:09 PM »
add Penco 12-string (~1975) to Japanese inst with zero fret.  Looked tacky to me, but worked very well contributing to surprising +++ playability. 
WSJ60s, WG26s, WJ45s, WGO26s,  WMJ21s, R320swrk,  D18, Tak F400-12, others...

Offline ubersanger

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 2
    • View Profile
Re: Factory Listing
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2016, 10:14:51 PM »
I am going to make an educated guess that the code "DC" is the Daewon plant in Dalian China. This plant is known to oem for many brands and is known to produce hollow bodies, mandolins, banjos, and resonators as well. I know a lot of Washburn hollow bodies have the DC label as does my acoustic bass.