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s/n 792663 wing series bass, but what?
« on: July 18, 2006, 08:17:13 AM »
well, I own a washburn bass which I bought back in 93. so far I figured out is;
s/n 792663 so it was made in 1979 and it is one of the wings series. but nothing more. so, please help me to find out more about this one, is it something valuable or what? unfortunately it is not in well condition :(

here are some pics



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« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2006, 07:35:55 PM »
Hi Bigbirader,
what you basically have is a Scavenger Bass with some differences:
- yours has a neck through body.The catalog in 1980 has the Scavenger with a detachable neck.
- yours has a bound body and neck, whereas in 1980 there was no binding
-your input jack has a different position to the catalog
-your bridge is a B20 style bridge rather than the Scavenger bridge.
So what does this all mean??
I would guess that yours is one of the first Scavengers produced given its features and within a year or so they downgraded the features of the Scavenger to make it cost effective / less expensive.
Your bass is very unique and I would suggest quite scarce.In relation to what it is worth, that's the million dollar question. Since they are so scarce it is impossible to find out it's market value.To get a premium price you need to come across a genuine Washburn collector who appreciates the quality and rarity of the guitar.Until that time who knows what it is really worth? Meanwhile play and appreciate the beauty of this bass knowing that it sounds great and is scarce and desirable to the right person.
Mel.
 

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« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2006, 05:50:18 AM »
well Mell,
thank you very much for the info, even the washburn customer service couldn't say anything about this bass.
as you see in the pics, it is in poor condition, but i'm going to try to get a new bridge and controls etc. and eventually, i guess i am gonna keep it for myself :)
thank you very much again.
and one more thing, were the scavenger basses good basses, are any well known bass players who used them, do you anything about it?
 

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« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2006, 08:26:43 AM »
Hi Bigbirader,
make sure that you keep all the original parts when the guitar is restored.The volume knobs are very similar to the ones found on Gibsons/ Gibson copies , so they should not be hard to find.I would keep the bridge, as it is original and a different bridge may require extra holes to be drilled in the body.This would severely affect the value of the guitar if a collector was interested in it.I'm not sure which famous bassists have played this model. I'm sure you'll be impressed with your bass when it is restored and ready to play.
Mel.
 

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« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2006, 12:00:49 PM »
hi again :)
in fact i've played this one for nearly 6 years, then i bought some other guitars and my washburn stayed in it's case for long a time (it was very very stupid of me). now , am playing fender mexican jazz bass mz0 series (2000 made) on the stage. i am happy with the sound of my fender, but i forgot my did my washburn sound. the reason i stopped playing it, there was problem with the first frett, when played F on the E string there was a buzz on the string and unfortunately there was no one around to fix it at the time.
now, it has few scratches, the bridge and the pickups are rusty but they are still working, that's it.
the knobs problem can be solved easly but the rust ?! :(
I wonder what can I use to make it shine again?

and I also saw your your vulture on motsumoku.com, very good one, do you still have it?
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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2006, 11:10:17 PM »
Yes I still have the Vulture and I'll probably have it for quite a while. It's a great feeling having a guitar that sounds great and wasn't mass produced.

Perhaps on your bass you could change the parts with newer/shinier parts that can be retrospectively put back. Mind you, having a guitar that looks well played does have a certain mojo about it.
 

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« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2006, 03:23:24 PM »
It's known as a Scavenger, but also known as Vulture bass. I own a Vulture II bass with 2 pickups. My own theory: Some handcrafted Wing series basses were build around 1980 in Japan, some with just one pickup (Vulture) and some with two of them (Vulture II). Very rare indeed. Your Washburn case looks just like mine:

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a50/to_the_galaxy/pict7347.jpg?t=1166735693
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a50/to_the_galaxy/pict7336.jpg?t=1166736133
 

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« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2007, 07:49:14 PM »
I've got a post on this forum searching for the very guitar you have in this post. I owned one in 79 or 80. I couln't remember exactly when I had it or what model it was but there it is. If you would like to sell it I would like to hear what you want for it. Those things were very heavy & I really am looking for one strictly for sentimental purposes. If I remember correctly, the one I had sounded really solid. [:D]
 

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« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2008, 02:15:58 PM »
Hi there again, it's been a long time.
Yes Rowo, the case and the strap are exactly the same :)
and tmusic101,
at the moment I'm not thinking of selling it but but just out of curiosity, how much were you planning to pay for it :)

here is my mail:boragungor77@yahoo.com
 

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« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2008, 05:39:54 PM »
Ive got a black Scavenger (bought on e-bay a couple of years ago). For it's age it is in great condition. It needed a bit of work on the neck (straightening). It does weigh approximately 52 tons! Sounds fantastic and looks amazing. I will never part with it. When I bought it I was given the original hard case (tailor made) and all the original documentation.

Alright, I paid 80 pounds sterling for it. Bargain!
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« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2008, 01:44:41 PM »
Nice Bass
I have the same one except a Sunburst but other than that exactly the same , through neck , pots jack position everything mine is SN 792188 so would have been made at a similar time back in 79.  I consider myself extremely lucky I don't think the guy on ebay quite knew what he was selling so got it for just over a hundred quid - bargain for me but think that is the problem when you come to sell as not many people really know about them. Particularly when you can pick up a new washburn for 120.  I had a Hawk BBR deluxe a few years back so recognised the bass straight away for what it was

Oh and Hi to all on the forum

Why did I sell that one ?


Why did I sell that one ? Stupid Stupid Stupid !!!

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« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2010, 05:10:33 AM »
Hi again,
It's been a long time:) I still have the bass. I found new control knobs, they were really very easy to find. I am still looking for suitable bridge, any idea where I can find one?
 

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Re: s/n 792663 wing series bass, but what?
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2012, 03:10:18 PM »
Bigbirader------you have a Vulture I.  The Scavengers came out only in solid colors black or white btw, and was the father of the Vulture I, which was followed by the Vulture that had 2 pickups (PJ's), 4 knobs and 1 switch and a thumb rest also.  Note your truss rod cover has no name---that could mean you have one of the authorized Daion proto-type Vulture I that Washburn assigned them to make and authorized them to sell. They made what, 50-60 of them and sold them same as with the Vulture II.  The increase in electronics on the Vulture II set the mark for future basses starting with the SB-40 (I own two, 1980+1981 and with 3 knobs and 2 switches) on thru the B series and Force 40 series.  The 4 knob/one switch configuration hung on into the mystery bass of Washburn of which only one can be found with a truss rod cover with name--supposedly LB-40.  I am currently trying to get the guy to send me a picture of that headstock to verify final confirmation.
The whole 1978-1982 stuff is exasperating and I have been searching literally for years to unsort everything.  You'll note out the remaining ads, posters, etc---you can find the Scavenger but not the Vultures, SB-40, LB-40 and then you find the B-series ads and Force 40's.  It is that mysterious gap I am trying to solve. Please email me if you get any info authenticated by truss rod covers, ads, etc.  I plan on organizing my material into a pdf book for everyone free for the asking---just gotta fill in the hole.
 

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Re: s/n 792663 wing series bass, but what?
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2012, 12:31:05 AM »
Wanted to add that the Scavenger has the jack input on the front of the body so its knob--knob--jack, the Vulture I has it  in the regular place so its knob-knob.  Scavengers I have just learned came in at least a red besides the black ones and white ones in the ads.
 

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Re: s/n 792663 wing series bass, but what?
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2012, 09:03:56 AM »
OOH!! OOOH!!! You don't have a Washburn there!! It is a Daion, not Matsumoku!! The lack of model number on the truss rod cover, the wood truss rod cover, the straight tuners, The solid brass bridge pieces are all indicators of being a Daion and not a Matsumoku Washburn. Basically it would amount to a prototype in today's market. While you have a 1979, these were made as early as 1978 by Daion.. I know this is a very old thread, but check out the Talkbass thread regarding this very bass. Mine in particular is a 1978 prototype by Daion for Washburn...
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f8/daion-washburn-matsumoku-help-849538/