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Offline skeesik

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« Reply #315 on: May 02, 2010, 07:38:05 PM »
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Originally posted by Riffrob

a beautiful piece, Mark.  I'm amazed at how 'mint' she is..and the electronics are slim and trim...looks like I've some work to do on mine..thanks for the pictures  [|)]



Agreed.  Mark, that's a very tidy Davies you have there.  One of the cleanest Kahler's I've seen.  She's a beaut!
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« Reply #316 on: August 22, 2010, 10:31:53 PM »
There she is!  I am the original owner of this N4.  I was betting myself I would find some recent photos of her and figured this would be a good place to start.  I recognized it the instant this photo appeared.  The 1-piece body, the swirl of the grain and even the dirt are etched in my memory.  (in fact, even the dirt still looks almost identical as when I sold it .... I played this guitar a lot!)

All the way to the Netherlands now, eh? (sniff).  Do as you please, but WHY would one contemplate refinishing it?  People pay extra for dirt like that. [:D]  That is grime from honest play right there, no artistic relic'ing.  

I auctioned it on off in 2005 starting the bidding at $99/No Reserve and finishing up at $2,130 USD.

I see that the person who bought it from me sold it again in 2008 for slightly more.  That is just too short a time to own such a fine instrument!  I'm glad I had my 14 years with her.

Anyway, for posterity I think in my next post I'll show all the photos I had of it and the auction listing.  Let me say, stefN4N8 tells no lie.  This isn't just the finest N4 I ever played, it is one of the finest guitars I've ever played.  Intonation, action, neck feel, sustain .. it was just perfect.  That strange radius at SEC is just part of its charm ... it shows that a luthier put that thing together .. not a machine.

I sold her at a time I was through with Floyd Rose trems.  I sold every guitar I had which had a Floyd Rose licensed trem.  I know that if I remained using those trems, there is no way I would have ever parted with this guitar.  This was the last one to go, and the hardest to bring myself to selling.

BTW, I tried to email stefN4N8 but I guess I'm too new.  If you have any questions about the guitar's history from 1991 - 2005, shoot me an email.


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Originally posted by stefN4N8

After 7 weeks of waiting, here she finally is; my '91 N4 Davies, 1-piece (serial 910815).





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« Reply #317 on: August 22, 2010, 10:43:50 PM »
Here is the auction listing that I saved containing the background on the guitar, complete with all the photos I took for the auction (I have earlier photos .. me playing the guitar on stage, etc. but they aren't digitized):

http://www.rockdebris.com/images/n4/n4.htm

Couple of my favorite shots that I thought represented the guitar well.



 

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« Reply #318 on: August 26, 2010, 11:51:14 AM »
I freaking love that guitar.

Natural relicing FTW

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« Reply #319 on: August 28, 2010, 10:20:25 AM »
Hey Rockdebris.

Wow, I hadn't checked out this forum for weeks and must say I am *very* pleasantly surprised to see your comments on here. Main reason is because even though I absolutely LOVE this guitar and take very, very good care of it, I have always wondered whether the relicing occured naturally or was done artificially. The guy I bought it from (I believe he was Brazilian) couldn't tell me. All he knew it was like that when he bought it.

Anyways, don't worry - it still looks exactly the same as on the pics above. I haven't sanded it at all :-)

For what it's worth; some of the guys on this forum have 'cleaned up' their N4 Davies and some of them actually look stunning. After careful consideration I decided to leave it as is, as even though I didn't know whether it was reliced artificially or not, the relicing on this N4 just makes it look very special.

Regarding emailing me - I think you have to have a certain nr of posts on the forum to have that right. It's low though - 10 or 25 or something.
 

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« Reply #320 on: August 28, 2010, 01:58:44 PM »
Hey stefN4N8,

Yes, the natural relicing during the time I had it was put on in the first 4 years by gigging.  I stopped using this guitar after about 4 years, and it remained in its case for 10 years more or less, with an occasional afternoon playing.  I hold on to gear for a long time ... I even still have all of the pieces of the rig I used to play in 91 with this guitar.

I have a question, and you are definitely the best person to ask.  If at some point I wish to get another N4 for nostalgia, which of the newer ones would I think reminded me most of my old 91?  Feel and sound wise only, not necessarily duplicating its looks.  I tried other iterations of the N4 throughout the mid 90's, looking for a back up, and not one of them made the grade.  The bar was set pretty high by that 91.  I've seen the later models online, and they seem from their descriptions like they might have a shot, but you know as well as I that a guitar may look like another, but that means little when it comes to actually play it.

All this looking at my old N4 made me think of some tracks I recorded with it.  In 1992 a drummer and myself went into the studio to throw down some the backing tracks for a few songs  I used that N4 exclusively for the entire session.  We never got the vocals down.  Anyway, I thought you might like to hear a track all the way from '92 recorded with your guitar:

http://www.rockdebris.com/audio/releases/track01_mastered.mp3

Today it sounds a bit like the greasy kid stuff I used to like, and I wasn't as confident a player as I am now, but what the hell, still a great memory.

 

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« Reply #321 on: August 28, 2010, 03:51:06 PM »
Hey,

Pretty cool track you recorded back in the days! Not bad at all...

Regarding your question what you should buy to remind you of your '91 N4 - that's a simple question; buy another early model Davies. I own a few '09 and '10 Davies Reissue models (and other N4s from other eras), and even though I have to say especially the Reissue models are significantly better built than most original Davies, they really are different; Period. If you want nostalgia, buy an old guitar, as absolutely nothing else feels like an original Davies.

Don't hold off buying one until you find one that looks like your old guitar, as the only I have come across over the last couple of years that looks this good is the one I have. I'm sure there are others that look like this, but they're super scarce.
 

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« Reply #322 on: September 01, 2010, 07:26:29 AM »
Ah....one of the best Davies ever to hit ebay : ) Rock, I emailed you back in '04/'05 after I discovered pics of your N4 on your website.  We chatted a bit back and forth and you mentioned how you were considering selling her.  I remember telling you that, at the time, you should expect around $1,200.00 tops.  I was a bit off.  If I remember correctly, I think the sale of your Davies marked the climb in selling prices for the next couple of years.

Anyway, good to see you on the board, and good to see that Davies again.  And, Stef.....I know you've already decided to leave her as is, but, I'll say it anyway....DEFINITELY leave her as is [:D]
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« Reply #323 on: September 01, 2010, 03:24:09 PM »
That grime ain't going anywhere, Skee - don't worry ;-)
 

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« Reply #324 on: September 01, 2010, 04:15:20 PM »
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Originally posted by stefN4N8

That grime ain't going anywhere, Skee - don't worry ;-)



Good plan! [8D]

If I remember correctly, the original owner (Rock) goes by Joe...
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« Reply #325 on: September 09, 2010, 12:53:51 PM »
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Ah....one of the best Davies ever to hit ebay : ) Rock, I emailed you back in '04/'05 after I discovered pics of your N4 on your website.  We chatted a bit back and forth and you mentioned how you were considering selling her.  I remember telling you that, at the time, you should expect around $1,200.00 tops.  I was a bit off.  If I remember correctly, I think the sale of your Davies marked the climb in selling prices for the next couple of years.


Yes John, I remember well.  That was by far the highest sale price brought in on eBay up to that point as far as I could see.  I may very well be the person to blame for the run-up on 91 Davies (besides Davies himself for building a great guitar).  I know pretty well how to construct an effective auction, and I didn't want it to let it go for $700 or something, as I had seen others.  I would have honored whatever the final price was, but I knew the quality of the guitar warranted more.  My hope was $1500 or so (about the price of a PRS I had my eye on).

By the way, I only sold it because I visited the Population 1 forum (I think) just checking up on what Nuno was up to.  I saw some posts about N4's and decided to post some pics.  The amount of response I got from people from the blue just wanting to buy it is what turned the light bulb on over my head.  Prior to that, I didn't want to sell it because I didn't think I'd get much for it (sounds crazy today).

I admit, I do miss this guitar once in a while when I want to do something with a trem (but I'm also a huge fan of PRS and the ones I have fit my playing style better overall).
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« Reply #326 on: November 11, 2010, 10:07:15 AM »
DOH! NOOB ALERT! After spending all day reading this thread after I posted to it, I realize my 2.0 does not qualify as an N4 Davies. I'll leave it up for porn purposes but I'll yank it immediately if I'm outta line here.

I'm the new owner of this 2.0 Pad. I purchased it on ebay and I've actually seen a link to the auction at this forum in a different thread.  






I had been planning a warmoth kit guitar totally unrelated to an N4, in fact I hadn't thought about Nuno's guitars in about 15 years. But perusing on ebay I saw this one and it reminded me that I always loved Nuno's natural guitars. I researched the model and jumped on it. I have to say the guitar is much nicer than I thought it would be. I expected a production guitar along the lines of a Fender American Standard or an Ibanez JEM. Wrong, this is as nice a guitar as I have ever held. It's so effing classy I almost can't stand it. I want to just play Bach on it until I plug it up, then it breathes fire. It has the 37mm brass block, titanium string blocks, and stainless screws on the floyd. I added the Black Box trem stabilizer which works really well. It's a little clunky to pull up on but that's better than losing pitch bending strings. I think it's even stiff enough to use a dtuna, which I might. Rest assured if I do I'll have a professional routing job done for it or I'll just block out the trem. Don't scream at me, Nuno does it too. [:D]
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« Reply #327 on: November 11, 2010, 10:47:33 AM »
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Originally posted by markgibbon61

ok, here is my baby


I didn't know some N4's came with Kahler Steelers. When I was a kid I rode my bike up to the guitar store to get a floyd for my kit guitar. I was pissed that all they had was a Kahler floyd but I bought it for $110, half a year's salary as a kid. When my luthier, Tom Keckler of St. Blues guitars here in Memphis, assembled it he told me that under the microscope the Steeler had the smoothest, hardest saddles he'd ever seen on a bridge. Accidental score!
 

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« Reply #328 on: November 24, 2010, 06:44:26 AM »
Hi, I've been meaning to do this for a while but totally forgot!
I had another account which I can't seem to get into so made a new one.
I've put some pics on photobucket for you to check out.
There are a couple of differencies with my Davies N4 than I have seen anywhere else.
1. The input jack it not recessed and does not have a metal plate.
2. The spacing for the neck p'up is closer to the neck and you can hardly see the truss rod.

Are these more common than I think? I haven't seen any N4's the same.

Check it out and let me know, thanks :)

http://s1182.photobucket.com/albums/x457/davidmcconnell4/




N4 Alder (Davies 91 I think)
N2 Alder (91)
A couple of others

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N4 Natural Alder (Davies 91)
N2 Natural Alder (91)
N2 Padauk Stain
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« Reply #329 on: November 10, 2011, 12:19:49 AM »
My turn to show off my Davies N4!

Sorry to bump an old thread, but had to get in on this one, as it has so many magnificent contributions!

Here's a few shots of my 1991 'Davies' N4 (SN 910403) and below are a couple shots of my N4 with my four other Stephen's Extended Cutaway guitars (Stephen's Model S, Stephen Davies Model T, Washburn DC60E, Washburn EC29).  If you'd like to see more pics of the Stephen's Model S, I have another thread here:  http://forums.washburn.com/index.php/topic,21540.0.html









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My Stephen's Extended Cutaway (SEC) guitars:
1996 Stephen's Model S
1996 Stephen's Model T
1991 'Davies' Washburn N4
1988 Washburn EC36
1994 Washburn DC60-E