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Title: Washburn D-24
Post by: bundyrum on December 05, 2009, 07:44:41 AM
I have a washburn D-24 but can find no reference to it anywhere. Can anyone help out please with information on it's age where it was made, value if any etc.  There are 2 sets of nos ... 843871 and 324. What do these represent.  Thanks.
Title: Washburn D-24
Post by: ship of fools on December 05, 2009, 11:17:36 AM
All I found was this bundyrum. http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Guitar/product/Washburn/D-24S+Limited+Edition/10/1
Your the second Aussie that has asked after one of these and because it is a limited edition it seems to be harder to find info on them, but at least we know what the 324 is out of a 1000 made, I am wondering if possibly made in Japan and if it is another Yamaki, if you could post some pictures for us it would be highly appreciated.Ship

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Title: Washburn D-24
Post by: bundyrum on December 05, 2009, 09:39:15 PM
Thanks so much for your reply. I have taken some pics and have them on photobucket but am unsure how to post to here.
Title: Washburn D-24
Post by: bundyrum on December 05, 2009, 09:42:15 PM
Am trying this:  Hope it works.
http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac179/trebor50/Washburn%20D-24/CopyofWashburnD-24047.jpg
http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac179/trebor50/Washburn%20D-24/CopyofWashburnD-24048.jpg
http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac179/trebor50/Washburn%20D-24/WashburnD-24053.jpg
http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac179/trebor50/Washburn%20D-24/WashburnD-24052.jpg
Title: Washburn D-24
Post by: bundyrum on December 05, 2009, 09:49:33 PM
http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac179/trebor50/Washburn%20D-24/WashburnD-24051.jpg
http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac179/trebor50/Washburn%20D-24/WashburnD-24049.jpg
http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac179/trebor50/Washburn%20D-24/WashburnD-24050.jpg

Thanks in advance.
Title: Washburn D-24
Post by: ship of fools on December 06, 2009, 09:43:29 AM
Hey bundyrum its probably made around 1988 and it reminds me of the Yamaki's made during that time, also looks a lot like the D-34 Augusta I can only guess as to its value, so I am ony GUESSING here and would say around $375-500
Looks as if it might be a solid spruce top and curly ( flame ) maple back and side a very nice looking dread thats for sure.Sorry I couldn't find more info, maybe someone else might know more about them.ship

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Title: Washburn D-24
Post by: bundyrum on December 06, 2009, 03:46:29 PM
Thanks for your input. I thought that with the serial no beginning with 84 it may have been made in 1984 ?? What are your thoughts.
Title: Washburn D-24
Post by: ship of fools on December 06, 2009, 06:31:21 PM
No I think that the Yamaki's were about 86-to early 90's, but I could be wrong, sorry I am not at home for this answer so I can't check my dates, Pike would you know if the Yamamki's were made that early.Ship

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Title: Washburn D-24
Post by: Pike on December 06, 2009, 06:46:12 PM
I doubt it's a Yamaki built. It was probably a special run for a particular seller.
Title: Washburn D-24
Post by: ship of fools on December 06, 2009, 08:36:26 PM
No I think it is a Yamaki Pike went home to compare to my D68SW and there are to many similarities to each other like the Washburn name, the tuner buttons and the same place for the number stamp inside and the time line was in the right spot.
But defintely made for a particular dealer who might have custom orders these, because they just don't show up very often.But like in all things with these limited models we are just giving our best guess.Ship

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Title: Washburn D-24
Post by: bundyrum on December 08, 2009, 04:39:58 AM
Thanks so much guys. Is so hard when there is not alot of info to go on. Maybe somebody else can chip in their thoughts as well ??
Title: Washburn D-24
Post by: Pike on December 08, 2009, 09:41:25 AM
As far as I know the Washburn Yamaki line started with 60 and up.
Title: Washburn D-24
Post by: bundyrum on December 08, 2009, 03:14:50 PM
I also have the original hardcase it came in. If it was a run of only 1000, does it hold any further value because of that.
Title: Washburn D-24
Post by: Tio Kimo on December 08, 2009, 03:20:24 PM
My Yamaki built Washburn Dread is a 1981.
Title: Washburn D-24
Post by: ship of fools on December 08, 2009, 05:46:31 PM
Tio would you mind sharing your serial number is it 5 or 6 digits, it sure would be nice if Washburn would let us know when they switched from factories. I have never seen a earlier Yamaki then mid 80's.
And bundyrum it doesn't make it more valuable, Washburn has always made things in small runs of 200 guitars ata time and if they go then they do it again I also have a Limited Edition that has a run of only 125 and yet it hasn't gone up in value except to me.Ship

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Title: Washburn D-24
Post by: Pike on December 08, 2009, 06:49:49 PM
quote:
it sure would be nice if Washburn would let us know when they switched from factories.
Why? They probably don't even know. It's a very nice guitar, a real decent player worth a couple hundred bucks tops, not a museum piece or anything. Made to be Played is Guild's motto, seems applicable to your D24 too JA.
Title: Washburn D-24
Post by: Tio Kimo on December 08, 2009, 11:24:49 PM
serial on my D-60S is 106069
I purchased it from the original owner, and held his receipt in my hands dated 4/82.

My info from back in the day was that the Yamaki acoustics were made for Washburn from around '77 to '86. I'll have to dig around a bit to generate that info for you, but it was stirred up from a couple unrelated sources. Nothings for sure though.

Here's a thread from when I picked it up this summer...

http://forums.washburn.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=15936

And another thread from earlier indicating late seventies vintage....

http://forums.washburn.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7758

I agree with Pike that these are for playing. While it's a rare bird and a steal for a solid wood guitar...fact is it's an instrument, and I'm seeing to it it gets played all the time.

Enjoy that D-24, looks like a great guitar!

Cheers!
Title: Washburn D-24
Post by: Pike on December 09, 2009, 12:19:09 AM
Then yours is an '81 Kimo.
Title: Washburn D-24
Post by: ship of fools on December 09, 2009, 08:25:28 AM
quote:
Originally posted by luvmyshiner

Welcome aboard Bundy.  Sweet looking guit you have there brother.

I'm going to have to go with Pike on the identification of your WD125 as a non-Yamaki build though.  


Whoops I think you meant to say D-24, as for why it would be nice to find the accurate dated for Yamaki's, just because.
I know a while back when we were discussing Yamaki's at another site  we were trying to figure out when Yamaki was building for Washburn and one site suggested that it was mid 80's -low 90's and mow we see that they were actually earlier then I thought.
It just doesn't make sense though because my Yamaki has a 5 digit serial number and yet is a 89 and I was also wondering Tio does yours also have the wood plate inside.
And yes maybe Yamaki didn't have an actual hand in the D-24, but the similarities are pretty remarkable to say the least and then it begs to ask if it's not a Yamaki then were some of the left over stock sent on to the next factory to be built as another  model.Ship inquiring minds want to know.Ship

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Title: Washburn D-24
Post by: ship of fools on December 09, 2009, 09:15:45 AM
Well I just read through the older posts you had Tio and it strikes me funny that the serial numers don't line up, it sure would be nice if I could find something that would indicate when they should be in what year.As you can see here on mine there is a 5 digit number
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4/ship123/BVyFzWwmkKGrHgoOKjYEjlLmYLs0BKURU6F.jpg)
So it makes me wonder how one really goes about dating these older models and does that mean mine is even older then I thought it was.
Its to bad we can't get all of these great minds here and come up with something that makes sense to us all in terms of dating these older Washburns( like Beckmen,Yamaki's and so forth ) and then having Nick make it a sticky so we always have a refrence point.Yes its nice to have thoses few who know more about the older and newer models,but it would also be great to have arefrence point in here for when they aren't available.Ship

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Title: Washburn D-24
Post by: Pike on December 09, 2009, 10:30:17 AM
Sure, lets all of us who have Washburn info take the months, years, or longer that it would take to get us all together to sift through, organize, cross reference to each other and also to existing published information, catalogs, articles, brochures, photos, etc., and then compile all of the info into readable pdf's for everyone to
view. Chances are that's not gonna happen...
Title: Washburn D-24
Post by: Pike on December 09, 2009, 10:49:40 AM
quote:
Whatdoya say Pike?
Yep, I'm with you Shiner... let's play these things! Wooden boxes with strings, it's all about the music, right Bro?...[8D]
Title: Washburn D-24
Post by: Tio Kimo on December 09, 2009, 04:06:32 PM
Ship, I totally understand your frustration. I went through a similar process a few months back with the HB-35's. Tried to get a consensus from people with different perspectives....and ultimately, only thing certain is....nothing is certain. Ultimately, I love my guitars, pretty confident of their origin, and that's gonna have to do.

NOW, if I had been misled, drop a grand on a box that turned out to be something other than advertised, I'd be pissed. That's what got me started on the HB thread, seeing them on ebay listed as Matsumoku's when there is nothing out there that supports that.

here's that thread if you've got some time to kill....it delves into the general relationship between uncle mat, yamaki, japan and korea, and few other tangents thrown in.

http://forums.washburn.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=16184

whatever you do, just don't let the damn things collect dust.
Title: Washburn D-24
Post by: bundyrum on December 10, 2009, 03:45:19 AM
You talk sbout Yamaki having 5 digit serial numbers...this one has 6...843871....still a Yamaki ???
Title: Washburn D-24
Post by: Tio Kimo on December 10, 2009, 06:21:11 AM
Hi JA,
I think the consensus here is that it's not a Yamaki.

That said, my '81 has a 6 digit serial.

Unfortunately, conclusive factual info simply doesn't exist. We got a bunch of guys, comparing notes, sales flyers, receipts, dusty memories, magazine articles, repair/build quality discovery....cobbling together a FAIRLY reliable record of what was made when and where. Sometimes its pretty clear, sometimes not.

She's beautiful and she plays. No doubt she's worth what you paid. enjoy!
Title: Washburn D-24
Post by: nogin007 on December 10, 2009, 11:16:15 AM
dusty memories

That part seems to fit me pretty well.
Title: Washburn D-24
Post by: bundyrum on December 10, 2009, 01:27:21 PM
If not a Yamaki Then what ?? You reckon it is still Japanese made ?
Title: Washburn D-24
Post by: Pike on December 10, 2009, 03:00:04 PM
Could be Korea...
Title: Washburn D-24
Post by: ship of fools on December 13, 2009, 09:18:55 AM
Hey Tio this is the information I got from Jim, hope it helps those out who want it.

   Unfortunately, the serial number on a Washburn acoustic built before 1993 is not always an accurate way of determining the year of manufacture.  
The first thing I look for is headstock style: (this excludes the Festival Series and the Beckmen Era Washburns)
 
If the instrument has a Martin style headstock....it was made sometime between late 1976 and 1983-84.
 
If the instrument has a V style headstock......it was made sometime between late 1982 and 2009.
( There is an over lapping period  from 1982 to 1984 when the transition from Martin style to V style took place....so you may find a model from that period {82-84} with both style headstocks.)
a note: According to Jam Industries, the V style headstock will be discontinued in 2010 on all Washburn acoustic models.
 
Yamaki (like other Japanese and Korean builders) were in the habit of subbing a lot of their work out to lesser known builders to keep up with demand.  Thus the disparity amoung serial numbers on Yamaki products built for export and built for Washburn.
 
Your D-68SW (V) headstock was probably built in 1989.  (All D-68s were made between 1984 and 1993)
Tio's D-60S (Martin) headstock was probably built in 1981. (I'm assuming Tio's has a Martin style headstock)


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Title: Washburn D-24
Post by: bundyrum on December 17, 2009, 04:35:04 AM
Hey guys, thanks heaps for your input...don't know that I am any the wiser. Not to worry. Will keep a lookout for any further input...in the meantime....have a great Xmas and a Happy New Year from Australia and if you get the chance then grab a tot of Bundyrum !!! Merry Xmas all.
Title: Re: Washburn D-24
Post by: MarvoGing on September 02, 2014, 03:02:45 AM
My D-24 http://forums.washburn.com/index.php/topic,23683.0.html
Title: Re: Washburn D-24
Post by: roosterdrs on August 10, 2015, 12:14:08 PM
I know it's been a long time, but I just wanted to say that I have this exact same guitar. This is the ONLY other one I've seen, so I thought I'd post a picture to add to this thread. I have had the guitar since the summer of 2000. It is by far my favorite instrument. The tone is amazing and it plays very well. This guitar is like a good friend!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/om25qu7qa0nu0fc/0810151100.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rfbsbdjyhr7l7s7/0810151100a%20%281%29.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n22raz7ny3zls6x/0810151100a.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/luv4jtbk935zlcf/0810151100b.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/63l4t2yfzh28w6h/0810151101.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6b1mifuncdflu5t/0810151101a.jpg?dl=0