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Vintage and Rare Washburns / Re: Washburn D30 Info...
« on: July 20, 2017, 11:23:43 PM »
If I remember right, the "first series"was dreadnought, "second series" a Southern jumbo, so shoulders alone would be helpful.

The "1101" is almost certainly not a Washburn s/n. Maybe a builder internal number or for neck lot.

At a crazy guess, I'd say a first-series 1982:
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dreadnought, cedar top, bound body, three-stripe purfling, five-stripe rosette, rosewood back/sides, mahogany neck, 14/20-fret rosewood fingerboard with herringbone/snowflake inlay, bound headstock, rosewood bridge with pearl dot white pins and bone saddle, tortoise pickguard, Natural finish

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An LS-93?? :o Woah, dude: $600 easy, & I've watched them drift past for $1,000 or thereabouts.

By all accounts a great axe... but JEEEZ that could buy a really sweet MIM Fender. ???

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Show Us Your Washburn / Re: Washburn USA MG-113 "Performer"
« on: July 17, 2017, 01:24:40 AM »
Totally loving the neck grain -- yah, I know it means weaker wood, but DARN pretty. :)

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Welcome!! :) You've certainly picked an interesting point at which to begin.

As covered elsewhere, the Washburn numbering system is FAR from perfect. I have two Mavericks (a series built 1995-2005, yet BOTH eight-digit numbers begin 18xxxxxx. The "common wisdom" says that MUST be either 1918 or 2018, right? :o

http://forums.washburn.com/index.php/topic,26561.0.html

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Though I'm sticking to my budget, windowshopping is free. ;D So, a few noted Washburns at Guitar Center Online. (Prices don't include shipping, which seems to be <$40 to the Lower 48.)

Wasn't someone asking about an XB-400 bass? Here's one in rather nice shape, $150.
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Used/Washburn/Xb400-Electric-Bass-Guitar-113381526.gc

At the other extreme is this "Fallen Idol" WI-66, $570. Seeing as it's likely a Boogie Street that sold for $1,079 new, & only 50 were built... well, then!
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Used/Washburn/FALLEN-IDOL-Solid-Body-Electric-Guitar.gc

A rather more standard WI-64DL, $226.
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Used/Washburn/WI-64DL-Solid-Body-Electric-Guitar-113366475.gc

An XB-600, in the user-friendly Natural finish, a mere $315.
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Used/Washburn/BANTAM-XB600-Electric-Bass-Guitar.gc

Lovely F-type M3 mando, all wood, $350.
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Used/Washburn/M3SWK-Mandolin-113350838.gc

I've been told these are somewhat rare, & fetch a high price: the WE-22 LP clone, $250.
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Used/Washburn/WE22-Solid-Body-Electric-Guitar.gc

The 12-string version of the D-46S, $400.
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Used/Washburn/D46512k-12-String-Acoustic-Guitar.gc

Well, that's enough fun; must finish up the day.



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General Discussion / Re: serial numbers: before you ask...
« on: July 13, 2017, 06:44:04 PM »
(bumping this up)

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The model has been discussed a few times:
http://forums.washburn.com/index.php?topic=23385.0
http://forums.washburn.com/index.php?topic=22357.0
http://forums.washburn.com/index.php?topic=13987.0
http://forums.washburn.com/index.php?topic=11405.0
http://forums.washburn.com/index.php?topic=3816.0

One seller said
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Washburn D97Solid Spruce Top w/select Mahogany back & sides & a Rosewood fingerboardCustom Inlays on fingerboard & headstock-(Dots with a Limited Edition on the fretboard & gold colored Washburn on the headstock)Rosewood BridgeNickel Grover Tuning KeysEach D97 included a  Gig Bag
but I can't figure where they got that from.
http://www.guitar-museum.com/guitar-19389-Washburn-D97-Limited-Edition-Acoustic-Guitar

Here's #0811 -- http://www.musicgoroundlouisvilleky.com/p/518885/used-washburn-d97-ltd-acoustic-guitar-natural

Another, which the seller says is NOS & still bears its MIK tag -- https://reverb.com/item/2682014-washburn-d97-limited-edition-1997-gloss-natural

An MSRP of $700-$800 generally (per Fjestad's Law) almost always limits used value to $350-$400, tops -- near-mint condition, with all original inclusions (like the book), original case.

As with the majority of Washburn acoustics, it's probably a really good guitar. However, the "limited edition" thing is misleading; Jim Smith said most Washburn models had only a single 200-unit production run, & therefore in actuality are vastly less common.

I haven't researched yet, but the D-97 & D-95 weren't the only "limited editions" -- a fast search finds reference to D-98, D-95, & D-93. I'd have to compare photos & specs, but I get the feeling there was ONE model, call it the D-9x, spread over at least FIVE production years, with almost 2,000 each year... so that comes out to roughly 9,500 units, which would make it one of Washburn's most common ever models.

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Vintage and Rare Washburns / Re: Looking for d48 Comanche
« on: July 09, 2017, 10:47:52 AM »
The "date problem" arises from mistakenly comparing an overseas industrial assembly line with a small Washington luthiery stepping up to production.

Here's my educated guess. The Wikipedia article says in the early days (~1992) Tacoma Guitars "produced about 100 guitars a month for another guitar brand," so we have a rough guess at their maximal production capacity (I'd say 200 units absolute max).

They released their distinctive Chief & Papoose models about February 1997 at the winter NAMM. That means these were likely still in final development late 1996.

Jim Smith said Tacoma built a few Washburns: D-43 (2nd version, 1994-1997), D-46 (1996), D-47, D-48 (1996), R-310 (1996-1998). With so much on the table, & their own brand starting to get commercial traction, Tacoma likely wasn't interested in being "Washburn USA" for acoustics. In 1996, they declined the contracts for D-size guitars, but agreed to build out the initial orders.

That's probably why some "1996 only" guitars would be stamped with a 1997 serial number. (Only a guess, but I think that's also why Smith says the D-43 went into 1997.)

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Firstly, I hope you've actually BOUGHT it by now, if you sincerely want to OWN it. This site gets checked regularly by all major search engines; if we were to say it's definitely worth a HUGE amount of cash, the seller might read it before you act, & be intelligent enough to jack up the price. :o

I'll as AND answer the Usual First Question: "Is it worth a lot of money?"

Probably not.

It's a nice-looking guitar in really good condition, & likely plays great (& would be even better after proper maintenance). Washburn has made very few half-arsed guitars since the 1970s, particularly with their archtops. I wouldn't be surprised to find out it was a Japan build, maybe even Yairi.

It's certainly NOT "a version of the J-10." At a glance: snakehead, different soundholes & cutaway, dots -- it'd likely be ebony fretboard, too. It may have been a predecessor,but that's not saying much, really. (FWIW, I think the "Orleans" was the second J-10 version, 1995-7.)

A J-10, in GREAT shape, with OHSC, might sell for ~$750. (It's easy to find a NEW J-3 for under $500, J-7V for $700.)

As detailed elsewhere, most Washburn models were built in runs of 200. The models that didn't sell quickly enough were simply never re-ordered. This "rarity" means little as so few models have a significant market demand.

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N Series (Nuno Bettencourt) / Re: NX3 info please?
« on: July 05, 2017, 11:24:46 AM »
Well, once again the idiotic software hereabouts ate my post... >:( Maybe I'll re-write it later.

Briefly, then. The "Nextar"models were only 2002-2003. Washburn was afraid they were losing the Bettencourt endorsement, & this was the backup plan -- Nuno had a hand in designing the N models, not the NX.

We have it on good authority that most Washburn models (like 60%) since 1974 had only 200 units built -- this keeps the company lean-&-mean. Mainstays were the exception, like the WI-14, WI-64, X-10, D-10, & HB-35. Therefore, by most standards, "rare."

However, relatively few people know how GREAT Washburn guitars tend to be, & would rather pay more for a decal that says "Gibson" or "Fender"or "ESP" or "Ibanez," quality & value be damned.

So in this case, "rare" usually doesn't mean "precious."

There's a USA-made NX-6 available for $1,099 --
https://reverb.com/item/5090256-washburn-nx6-2002-black-textured-emg-loaded-from-usa-custom-shop

That's about what the Blue Book puts it at. Good news for you: the NX-3 had a retail price of $1,000, making it one of Washburn's pricier Korea imports, about the same shelf as the Dime 2 ST & the N-2. And like those models, it's holding value very well: if I had it in my shop, I'd ask $500-$700.

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The DL "has a quilted maple top and gold hardware, available in Trans. Blue, Trans. Green, Trans. Purple (disc.), or Vintage Sunburst finish" per Blue Book.

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PL = "pearloid".

Somewhere around here, another thread says there were ~300 made for a large retailer (I suspect Musician's Friend) late 2000. Another site says it sold for $350 new.



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Vintage and Rare Washburns / Re: D60E Lexington
« on: June 29, 2017, 04:08:13 PM »
A decent guitar, & I think the DC series is the only production acoustic to ever have the SEC.

Because it's so unknown, there's little demand. If I had it in a big-city store with decent foot traffic, I'd ask maybe $1,000 (USD)... expecting I'd have to hold it for a year or longer, & possibly discount it (or take a trade) in the end.

That also means that I would not buy it for more than $500.

You could consign it at a shop that specializes in quality acoustic instruments. However, this might put it at risk for damage as people pick it up only out of curiosity.

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Vintage and Rare Washburns / Re: 1973 W600 spruce/brazilian
« on: June 24, 2017, 03:10:31 PM »
 ::)
  • take a $200 Ministar "stick" guitar, like this --
  • stick a holey plastic body on it
  • present it as a Hi-Tech Marvel Of Futuristic Virtual Design
  • charge $2,000
;)

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