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Vintage and Rare Washburns / Re: 1973 W600 spruce/brazilian
« on: June 24, 2017, 03:10:31 PM »
  • take a $200 Ministar "stick" guitar, like this --
  • stick a holey plastic body on it
  • present it as a Hi-Tech Marvel Of Futuristic Virtual Design
  • charge $2,000

 :) Brightens me up to hear that someone with so MUCH guitar experience AND a nice collection of quality guitars can still be tickled by simple experiences.
no strap button on the heel of the neck
Y'know, this used to bother me as well. Then I dug up a bunch of memories, & realized I had played acoustics that had that button all over the place.
  • end of the heel (which dug a hole in the case)
  • top of the heel (unless pointy)
  • underside of the heel
  • none -- strap (if used at all) tied behind nut
So for "beginner" guitars it makes sense to just bolt it on somewhere so the kid can (theoretically) get right on to playing. But with an instrument meant for more-experienced players, builders would simply leave it off, assuming that the guitar shop -- hey, remember those?  ??? -- would take a literal minute to put it wherever the customer wanted.

I'm too lazy to go open the cases, but I recall putting the Alvarez button below, as it's got a pointy heel, & the Aria's flat on because it's got a "beaver-tail" heel.

And if memory serves, the Alvarez's strap was less likely to pop off, though I can't say it was significantly more secure.

Show Us Your Washburn / Re: Help Identify My Washburn!
« on: June 24, 2017, 11:11:42 AM »
Falling asleep a few nights ago, that darned serial number popped into my head... :o

My unconscious didn't like it at all. I'm pretty certain that someone on these boards once said that ALL Japan-built Washburns had serial numbers of six digits or less... but now I can't find the thread. (FWIW, generally four OR six digits, but you know what I mean.;))

If so, that would mean that the OP guitar is more likely a reissue 1998.

Can anyone either support or deny this???

Show Us Your Washburn / Re: Help identifying this guitar please?
« on: June 24, 2017, 10:58:50 AM »
Well, probably a 2011. As the prefixes aren't so certain, maybe a Samick build, which (probably...) would mean Indonesia.

What you have certainly does resemble a variant WIN14F, with "shred-friendly" controls -- a little surprising it doesn't have a "kill" switch. That small toggle is likely a "split" for the bridge pickup. The knobs could be either V1/V2 or V/T.

Could have been a short-run model for some regional market or for a big retailer (Musician's Friend, Guitar Center, etc.).

Considering that the WI-14 goes for $100-$150, & the WIN-14 ~$175, I'd say what you're looking at is maybe a decent axe for $150 ($125-$175) depending how much you really need a guitar.

Washburn was NEVER big on outright Gibson-clone shapes until new owner Jam Industries decreed the WIN Series (2010-2014, a.k.a. "New Idol") would replace one of their best-selling lines (subsequently replaced by the PXL).

Reasons to be cautious AND play it before committing AND not pay a dear asking price.
  • few Washburn guitars have ANY "collectible" value, especially at the low end of the retail-price scale, which yours is
  • low-end Washburns could vary wildly from "near-unplayable after extensive adjustment" to "stage-worthy right from the box"
  • unbranded Washburn pickups can be anything from incredible to muddy/muffled or in-between
  • their lower-end 2000s guitars (model numbers under 20, particularly with non-Grover tuners) often had fret ends sticking out & sometimes needed fret dressing ESPECIALLY if previously owned by some young wannabee metaller who really ground the strings in at four or five places

That's about consonant with Blue Book valuation if it has a decent case, so you're not getting "ripped off." Then again, you're not going to make money by flipping it, but you wouldn't lose either.

Whether it's worth buying is a matter of how well it's aged & mellowed. If it's a dream to play & sounds great, & doesn't soon need a neck reset or reglued ribs, & you appreciate that stuff, then it's a deal.

Show Us Your Washburn / Re: Help Identify My Washburn!
« on: June 18, 2017, 07:21:27 PM »
Not a whole lot of info to be had about that particular model. Seems less common than its line mates FV-2V, FV-10V, FV-20V.

If it's got the tapered 3-3 headstock, it's probably Japan, Matsumoku in fact. But I think the FVs reappeared later with a hockey-stick head, which is likely Korea.

General Discussion / Re: Oscar Schmidt/ Washburn
« on: June 18, 2017, 07:10:25 PM »
I cannot vouch that Oscar Schmidt numbers follow (or have followed) Washburn conventions.

The numbering system has changed repeatedly over the years. Sitting next to me is a Washburn BT-3, s/n I81xxxxx. The line existed 1995-2002. Therefore, it's more likely a 1998 than some uber-rare 1981.

Based on that, I'd guess that your OG-5 is more likely 1999, particularly as it's from Korea.

The OG-5 hasn't been made in years, in any case.

The model number is easy to decode: the "G" stands for Grand or fullsize... but that's iffy, because various OG models are dreadnought, mini-dread, concert, auditorium, jumbo-ish, slope-shoulder, & others.

Anyway, yours is Wine Red.

Show Us Your Washburn / Re: UNKNOWN MODEL
« on: June 10, 2017, 01:10:23 PM »
Absoutely agree with the ~$200 valuation.

As with so many Washburn models, it's a very good guitar, with a sever lack of popularity -- those who WANT them generally already HAVE them, & aren't in the market for another, & everyone else remains blissfully unaware of what they're missing out on.

This lack of demand pushes down resale value, which does suck for sellers, but is GREAT for any buyers.

That said, the current online market is swamped with the round-horn EA15 going out for ~$200 used; personally, I prefer the looks of the sharp horn. The color also stands out from the now-common pinkish Natural. And yours also has that spiffy "butterfly" bridgeplate, discontinued years ago.

If Washburn's model numbers hold true, the EA4000 is a short-run version of the EA40, which is more difficult to find than the EA20 (past or present). Given that, I'd tend to give parity between a used EA40 & a new EA20 (common at $299), & bump that up considering the fit-&-finish details no longer available in a Festival.

If you're going to sell it, & aren't in a huge hurry, I'd say to ask at least $350, & wait for an appreciative buyer.

Announcements & News / Re: Chicago Custom Shop -- HELP ME
« on: June 10, 2017, 12:25:31 PM »
I'm still helping to clear up Wikipedia articles relevant to Washburn.

Someone asked me whether Washburn still has "made in USA" models. Clearly, there ARE -- presentlythe seven USA Custom Series electrics.

But seeing as the Mundelein facility was shuttered 2012, I am at a loss as to WHERE these guitars are being built. Is there a luthiery at Buffalo Grove?

Signature Series / Re: Value of a Dime 2ST?
« on: May 31, 2017, 08:54:45 PM »
FWIW, I'd rather have a 2ST than any of the (seemingly endless!!) slew of Dean "beginner" guitars. While not one of the greatest examples of Washburn, at least the 2ST was issued while Darrell was still around.

Now that I think of it, Dean Zelinsky sold the "Dean" brand in like 1986, & all Darrell's Dean guitars were built previous to that. Darrell might have had a fresh prototype in his collection, but I have yet to see convincing proof he ever approved any of the low-end models that capitalized on his death.

Well, anyway. In the long run, the Washburn will hold its value much better than the Deans. If you're still playing,consider upgrading the hardware, especially if you can find good used stuff.

General Discussion / Re: WG26 variations
« on: May 27, 2017, 11:34:02 AM »
Be sure to tell us what theinside wood looks like! ;D

I have to admit, it's certainly a pretty axe. The abalone (purfling & rosette) is a nice touch, but you had me at "cedar top" -- currently I own neither a Grand nor a cedar, so this is tempting... but I got to pass, even at a mere $240 all-in.

(Not to look a gift horse in the mouth, but does that include a gig bag at least?)

Signature Series / Re: Washburn Dime 3 diamond plate
« on: May 26, 2017, 01:19:30 PM »
The diamond-plate version doesn't appear very often. I saw one listed with some paint cracking & corner dings, & it sold for $5,000 within two weeks.

As there's demand for this model, I warn buyers to beware of buying them. They're easy to counterfeit, & you might be handing over thousands of dollars for a China guitar (stamped MADE IN U.S.A., of course) that's not worth $200.

If you are a serious buyer, then go to a serious music store, with at least $3,000 in-hand. Ask THEM to find you one, & to guarantee it's the real thing AND there's nothing wrong with it AND it's not stolen. They'll likely demand a down-payment on the spot (some of it non-refundable should you change your mind).

What do you mean by "ST models"? The 3ST is worth double the STPRO, which is worth double the 2ST.

X Series / Re: Fretboard Radius
« on: May 26, 2017, 01:04:29 PM » says the RX-10 has a 12" fretboard radius.

However, with Washburn's more popular low-end guitars, specs like that can change readily, as they tweak them mid-run, or shift production between factories or even to another country.

IMO, there's really no "X Series" except maybe the offset fretboard dots (X-10 through X-22). The X-30 & X-33 are somewhat similar, there's TWO versions of X-40, a dozen or more variants of X-50, & the Donais models. The only unifying factors are the vaguely JEM-style slimmed-Strat body shapes, 25.5" fretboard, & six-in-line tuners. Specs like radius likely vary from model to model.

There's little basis to draw parallels between series. To me, it looked like the better X models were supposed to be replaced by RX, & the cheaper end by XM, but the new owners of the company lost sight of this & set the two lines competing against each other for the whole range.

Show Us Your Washburn / Re: D-15 Washburn. I purchased in 1984
« on: May 26, 2017, 12:18:05 PM »
As I recall, a good (maybe even VERY good) acoustic, but not great or legendary or anything. Perhaps "unusual" but I wouldn't say "rare." Given the era, might be a Yairi. Probably laminate back/sides.

If you're primarily an acoustic player, & the top has mellowed so nicely, then IMO you probably won't easily find a similar tone for less than $1,000.

Then again, street value seems to be ~$500. If it's excess inventory for you, then I'd say to take the grand.

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