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Happy birthday DTOM!!!!

(and are peerless!)

JUNIOR!!! M'boy! how the heck are you? Still tinkerin' with strings or have you gone completely girl crazy and started finding vintage motorcycles to mess with.

pretty sure he's luckier than you are...but you're a lucky gal.

you'll have to fill the gap, go to different tuners that utilize a different screw hole pattern, or pick up this item.

Tio curious as to how you feel about Dana's new tops ( torrefied wood )
I have to wonder about this if its really that much of a difference to the whole tone of the guitar. ship
and I would think most folks could care really less which tuners it came with if they look at the guitar as a player and not a collectable and because who built it I think of them as players

I have the utmost respect for Dana and his cred as a tonewood authority, as does the rest of the Luthery world. I can't imagine he would jeopardize that to move a few more guitars. It seems this is a pretty measurable process that these go through (unnlike, for expample, the notion of storing your guitar on your subwoofer and playing hard rock for months on end to age it) My guess is he has found a discernable difference in top treated this way, so he's making that option available to the market. Always room for a different sound. I mean, for years you never saw parlors or OM's because of the percieved small plunky tones, now look at the appreciation there is for that segment. It's just another color on the palette.

As to tuners....and not caring....well, only to degree. Tuning stability matters. And not all tuning machines are created equal. Certainly other brands do a fantastic job. I stated in this thread that the grovers were rock solid as tuning machines on the Cherokee....I just thought they looked out of place. You wouldn't put Klusons on a Dime Stealth would you? If I'm spending 2 - 6k on a guitar, I care that the tuners are excellent. Not necessarily Waverly's, but top quality and style appropriate. You'll find that when looking at high end acoustics they frequently come standard with Waverly or Wilkinson (Washburns Solo 5249) because they're solid, and style appropriate.

Mind you, I did say "arguably" improved. I hadn't played the guitar in two months due to the missing pin, and when I played it again, it had new pins (ebony, same as before) tuners, and strings (DR sunbeams, .013's) it sounds huge and open. The low E (D# in my case) rumbles to degree I just don't recall. IF its improved, I'd wager its more the tuners, but even there....while I feel the Waverly's look better and weigh MUCH less, the Grovers were rock solid mechanically. The guitar held tune well.

Not sure if you caught that I'd lost one of the original pins, so chose to replace the set with one sans MOP dots, and since I was ordering and paying for shipping, chose to do the tuners as well.


There WILL be the purists who think you just scrubbed a bunch of value off a DB original...not quite sure how to feel about that..
Dugly 8)

I know.. I gave that a lot of thought...but this is how I came to have peace with my decision. We know that that this guitar was spec'd as a Bourgeois Standard D, with cosmetic and in some cases, structural alterations requested by Washburn. Being a Bourgeois  fan, I've ogled long and hard on his designs, and I be shocked to see the butterfly bridge, for example, were his name on the headstock.

If you were to go buy an off the shelf Standard D from would come guessed it. Waverly's.

So arguably...I've brought it closer to the nest than it was before. That's my rationale, and I'm stickin' to it!  Interested in what the lawyers....and Jim Smith...would say.

I took a drill to my most rare, most valuable guitar, my 1995 D-55 Bourgeois Cherokee. But...I'd do it again.

Acoustic content, so I know half the class will go back to browsing, and that's fine.

Ever since I bought this guitar, I appreciated its fine craftsmanship and most of all, it's sound. Amazing full boomy dreadnaught bliss. BUT, the purist in me was always slightly bothered by all the bling. Most of that being inlays and wood, it can't be altered. But there were two things I could do. Tuners and Bridge pins. And boy, little things can go a long way.

Here's how she was originally...

This winter, with the ridiculous weather and the toll it takes on solid wood acoustics...I lost a bridge pin. Somehow. Just fell out. Guitar even stayed in tune. Crazy. Disheartening, given that Bourgeois takes such pride in even the slightest detail.....individually numbered pins

But it became the catalyst for change. I chose to stick with ebony pins, but went bare. I also chose to address the one thing that really bugged me...the huge clunky Grover Rotomatics. Never seemed appropriate on this guitar, even though they're rock solid tuners (these are '95 vintage)

The only acceptable choice for a guitar like this, I felt, were Waverly's. I chose Ebony, to keep the bling factor down, and mesh with the fretboard, bridge, and bridge pins, in hopes of keeping it dramatic, but not flashy. I think it worked. The Waverly bottom holes line up perfectly with the Grover holes, then simply adding a hole on the top. This is where the nerve wracking part comes in. Drilling holes in the headstock. I tend to have a great fear of Murphy rearing his ugly face in situations like these, but all went well.

and the finished product.

She looks better, and arguably sounds better, if that's possible.

Next up, Gotoh's on my Larrivee.

Takamine still makes some ridiculously wonderful affordable guitars, as does Washburn of course. To evenkeels points.... (and he may be too modest to say so, but he is VERY well versed in live acoustic performance) the sounds you indicate are so heavily impacted by the chain, that the base tone of the acoustic is of less concern. I say find a a comfortable guitar you love to play, and get a good pickup in it. With that foundation, your chain seems to have enough options you'll be able to craft whatever final tone you want to from it. Having an inexpensive guitar for your live rig seems a good idea, as you sadly have learned. If you can get a D10 cutaway that works, Awesome, then, should the same bad luck find you (theft) replicating it will be easy.

Beautiful piece, Corey. Thanks for sharing

Acoustic Guitar Players Post Comments & Questions / Re: Just sharing
« on: September 06, 2013, 12:27:39 PM »
Here's another one....showing he had faith in Rudy and his boys back in the day.....

Acoustic Guitar Players Post Comments & Questions / Re: Just sharing
« on: September 06, 2013, 12:11:58 PM »
I've seen several videos and stills of him with a Washburn EA, all from the 80's

Like you, I'm a huge fan. American Troubadour. Seen him in several manifestations over the last couple of decades. His tunes are timeless, really lend themselves to interpretation.

I cover Through Your Hands, Icy blue Heart, frequently in my open mic set (have done many others but those two stick) and I'm currently working out Trudy and Dave. Hope to work it up with a friend on slide.

Sure would be great to catch you out and about, Keel. glad to hear you're keepin' at it.

Acoustic Guitar Players Post Comments & Questions / Just sharing
« on: September 06, 2013, 11:51:00 AM »
an nice toe tapper, and a riveting and creative video showing an EA getting a good workout, back in the day.

Acoustic Guitar Players Post Comments & Questions / Re: Happy birthday CB!
« on: September 06, 2013, 11:49:37 AM »

Have a Great Day.

Really Sorry about Shiner. no reason in particular. Just seemed like a safe statement.


General Discussion / Re: Thanks for the great customer service
« on: August 21, 2013, 09:31:00 AM »
Wow. Nice to hear this. I have to say it really sounds like Washburn is stepping up across the board.

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