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Title: Anyone here play an acoustic bass????
Post by: YerDugliness on October 27, 2007, 02:31:51 PM
Well, searches for acoustic bass guitar, acoustic bass, and acoustic basses all yielded nothing, so I'll give up and post the question, does anyone here play an acoustic bass?

I'm continuing in my quest to complete my guitar collection.  Still to be acquired are a 12-fretter, a 12 string, and a bass.  Since I don't really play much with my electric guitars, I thougt I might pursue an acoustic bass guitar.  I've looked at the Washburn offerings, and note that they are pretty pricey, but that's just life in the fast lane, I guess.

Anyone have any comments for someone who is interested in pursuing this avenue???  I played an electric bass for about 6 months, 25 years ago, and didn't like the way the bass amp/speaker cabinet DOMINATED my living room.  There are a few songs I'd like to perform on the bass (here's one where I really think the simple bass line adds so much to the tune:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHIIivQnIsU  ).

Thanks for whatever input you can provide!

Dugly [8D]


YerDugliness, Esq./Post No Bills
Lifelong Audiophile
Guitar Playin' FOOL
Ready to retire and age disgracefully!!!

The crew:
Washburn WD32SW and WD32S (WD32S soon to receive an under-bridge pickup)
Epiphone AJ-10 (campfire guitar!!)
Yamaha G231-II and G60A Classical guitars
A Hohner classical I left at a vacation home in SW KS.
Epiphone Dot '63 ES335  Repop, Epiphone Les Paul Custom II
Ibanez RX20
A cheap Circle K banjo I play when feelin' funky
Title: Anyone here play an acoustic bass????
Post by: buckethead on October 29, 2007, 10:56:35 PM
im getting a acoustic bass for Christmas. im getting a ibanez here is the link http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Ibanez-EWB20WNE-Exotic-Wood-Series-AcousticElectic-Bass?sku=512646
then i sought after a case for it and the guitar will fit in this one http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Ibanez-AEL50C-Case-for-AEL-Guitars?sku=519627
and im also getting strings but strings differ person to person so i hope i helped.

the guitars:
B.C. Rich warlock
Washburn RB-2502
strat knock off

the amps:
Peavey Rage 158
Fender Rumble 100
Title: Anyone here play an acoustic bass????
Post by: YerDugliness on November 01, 2007, 12:46:00 PM
Well, here's what I'm thinking--since I have no interest in going electric, a strictly acoustic bass is what I'm interested in.

So....what should I look for?  Washburn's acoustic basses are pretty pricey, and if that's the way the industry prices all acoustic bass guitars, well, so be it.

What should I look for?  I know when I look at an acoustic guitar I look primarily at the woods used in the guitars, specifically whether the construction of the sides and back is solid wood (better) or laminate (not as good), and what the scale (size) is.  However, there are instances when a guitar made with laminate sides and back might be better than an all solid wood guitar, like in the case of a 12 string, where the guitar needs to be very sturdy to withstand the tension placed on the neck by all those strings.

Do the larger scale to which bass guitars , and specifically acoustic bass guitars, are built present any issues like that?

Should I be looking for:

     *all solid wood construction, or would laminate construction be better?

      *some specific method of strengthening any part of the guitar, or of adjustment (like a truss rod through the neck, for example).

     * any construction method that would result in a guitar with better quality sound production, longer life, easier servicability, etc?

Again, any help in this issue would be greatly appreciated, since I know SQUAT about bass guitars in general, and even less about acoustic bass guitars (never had my hands on one in the 35 years I've been playing guitars).

Again, thanks!

Dugly [8D]


YerDugliness, Esq./Post No Bills
Lifelong Audiophile
Guitar Playin' FOOL
Ready to retire and age disgracefully!!!

The crew:
Washburn WD32SW and WD32S (WD32S soon to receive an under-bridge pickup)
Epiphone AJ-10 (campfire guitar!!)
Yamaha G231-II and G60A Classical guitars
A Hohner classical I left at a vacation home in SW KS.
Epiphone Dot '63 ES335  Repop, Epiphone Les Paul Custom II
Ibanez RX20
A cheap Circle K banjo I play when feelin' funky
Title: Anyone here play an acoustic bass????
Post by: KrisH on November 01, 2007, 01:54:15 PM
I'm a bassist at heart (started in the early '70s) and just came to acoustic guitar seriously within the past 5 years.  Nevertheless, I've been interested in getting an acoustic bass for those cozy, friendly get-togethers.  Problem is, I've yet to find an acoustic bass guitar that satisfies me sound-wise.  I try them out whenever I see them in a store, and they always sound thin and weak to me, regardless of the brand, build, etc.  I've just come to the conclusion that current acoustic bass design is intended mainly for plugging into an amp, and not for accompanying a couple other acoustic instruments on its own.

Lately I've been GASing for something like this Gretsch:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/kholt81936/Gretschtoneking.jpg)

One of these will hold their own in most acoustic ensembles.  [:D]  I haven't played one since high school, though.

-- Kris

2004 Taylor 214
2004 Washburn F52SW
2003 Washburn WD-46S (the Tank)
2002 Hohner HF-75
2000 Epiphone Dot Deluxe LE
1995 Fender Stratocaster
1967 Gibson EB-3 (My Precious)
Title: Anyone here play an acoustic bass????
Post by: buckethead on November 01, 2007, 10:59:00 PM
the problem with acoustic bass's is to get good rich sound you have to have them big. well thats what i herd.. just compare a bunch of them and strength wise the thicker strings put more force on the neck so you might want to go laminate

the guitars:
B.C. Rich warlock
Washburn RB-2502
strat knock off

the amps:
Peavey Rage 158
Fender Rumble 100
Title: Anyone here play an acoustic bass????
Post by: YerDugliness on November 06, 2007, 10:43:49 AM
quote:
Originally posted by KrisH

I'm a bassist at heart (started in the early '70s) and just came to acoustic guitar seriously within the past 5 years.  Nevertheless, I've been interested in getting an acoustic bass for those cozy, friendly get-togethers.  Problem is, I've yet to find an acoustic bass guitar that satisfies me sound-wise.  I try them out whenever I see them in a store, and they always sound thin and weak to me, regardless of the brand, build, etc.  I've just come to the conclusion that current acoustic bass design is intended mainly for plugging into an amp, and not for accompanying a couple other acoustic instruments on its own.

One of these will hold their own in most acoustic ensembles.  [:D]  I haven't played one since high school, though.

-- Kris




You know, Kris, I have to  admit I've noticed the same thing.  I spent some time surfing on eBay looking for acoustic bass guitars and EVERY one of them was an acoustic/electric.  Absolutely NO acoustic only.  The only problem I have is that I have started attending a monthly event that is Acoustic Only--please do not bring amplifiers, so I'm limited to what I can carry around in my small Honda Accord.  I do see quite a few of the musicians who attend bringing their own stand-up basses, and those are the pieces played on the stage since the sound must fill a small auditorium, but that doesn't interest me, just a bass guitar.  I guess I'll continue the search and hopefully something will strike my fancy.  I suppose the sound-engineer might be able to mic the acoustic guitar in a manner that would be OK, I guess I'll ask next time I'm there.  

Thanks to all who posted, I now know that a laminate product is probably advisable, so that's good.  It's certainly more than I knew when I posted the Q originally.

Any further information anyone would like to provide is certainly welcome!

Dugly [8D]

YerDugliness, Esq./Post No Bills
Lifelong Audiophile
Guitar Playin' FOOL
Ready to retire and age disgracefully!!!

The crew:
Washburn WD32SW and WD32S (WD32S soon to receive an under-bridge pickup)
Epiphone AJ-10 (campfire guitar!!)
Yamaha G231-II and G60A Classical guitars
A Hohner classical I left at a vacation home in SW KS.
Epiphone Dot '63 ES335  Repop, Epiphone Les Paul Custom II
Ibanez RX20
A cheap Circle K banjo I play when feelin' funky
Title: Anyone here play an acoustic bass????
Post by: buckethead on November 06, 2007, 06:33:57 PM
you can play the bass guitars with out the amps but like i said you cant get good rich sound with out them being big. so you will be quite compared to and guitar

the guitars:
B.C. Rich warlock
Washburn RB-2502
strat knock off

the amps:
Peavey Rage 158
Fender Rumble 100
Title: Anyone here play an acoustic bass????
Post by: LonMon on November 07, 2007, 01:53:03 PM
Dude, get ready to shoot yourself. Early this morning (3:00am C) I decided to checked out the Musician's Friend Stupid Deal of the Day. It was the Epi Wildkat Limited Tiger Stripe for $299 (a very sweet deal on an equally sweet guitar). I was like, BOOM! gotta get that! So I did. Then afterwards I realized I hadn't checked for any Acoustic Bass deals in a few weeks. I figured I had better get to it just in case there was a great deal while I still had time to cancel the Wildkat order. I started with the $100-$200 basses. Rogues, Deans, Washburn AB40, WHAT? I couldn't believe my luck! I clicked the link but was disappointed with the Sorry, blah, blah, DISCONTINUED line. I then decided to see if any other online stores had the same deal going. I finally found it at Music 123. AB40, $199, and in stock! I got ready to hit the buy button when it occurred to me that there must be a serious issue with the AB40s for these guys to be taking $700 hits on them. So I started looking for reviews and FELL ASLEEP! I didn't wake up until 12:45 this afternoon. I freaked out and immediately hit the Music 123 tab. The bass was still there! Then I realized I needed to refresh the page. Sudden Doom. The page was gone, replaced by M 123s version of the Sorry, blah, blah, DISCONTINUED, line! I still feel like I've been punched in the chest. Hard. Very hard. It was so bad I had to call my mommy (and I'm 45).[B)]

Looks like we all missed out, Dugly.

Lon



Title: Anyone here play an acoustic bass????
Post by: LonMon on November 07, 2007, 05:16:06 PM
You know, Kris, I have to  admit I've noticed the same thing.  I spent some time surfing on eBay looking for acoustic bass guitars and EVERY one of them was an acoustic/electric.  Absolutely NO acoustic only.  The only problem I have is that I have started attending a monthly event that is Acoustic Only--please do not bring amplifiers, so I'm limited to what I can carry around in my small Honda Accord.

Dugly, Kris, everybody else,

Have any of you tried the Michael Kelly Acoustic Basses? They are one of the very, very, few companies that make guitar sized acoustic basses that are actually designed from the beginning to be a bass, instead of just slapping a long neck on a big bodied 6-string design like most do. They have excellent straight acoustic projection and incredible tone. They're all amplified, but there's more than enough acoustic oomph available to jam along with a few buddies on 6-stringers or to play a quiet coffeehouse type venue. You should check out their website and listen to some of the bands using them.

I bought one of their electric guitars that turned out to have a slight hump in the neck just below the nut. Since the guitar has been discontinued, they told me that if they can't fix it (which my guy says they can't) they will let me substitute another product if I want to. I'm going to take them up on the offer and try to get a Dragonfly 5-string fretless. These are beautiful basses, works of art really (also available fretted).

The website is MichaelKellyGuitars.com. BTW, they are having trouble with the pic links for the Drangonfly 4 fretless, so it's better to skip it and check out the others instead (same colors, inlays, etc.).

Good luck with your search.

Lon


Title: Anyone here play an acoustic bass????
Post by: YerDugliness on November 07, 2007, 05:30:55 PM
Well, finally found an acoustic bass WITHOUT electronics.  I have yet to check on the price (suspect I'm in for a huge sticker shock), but this is WAY cool--a resonator bass guitar (and an F-hole to boot--check out the Antique Sunset finish)!!

http://www.michaelkellyguitars.com/bayou4.html

I think I feel a case of GAS comin' on!!

[Edit--Thanks, Lon--I'll give it serious consideration [;)] .  There are a few dealers in the Houston, TX area, where I live.]

Dugly  [8D]

YerDugliness, Esq./Post No Bills
Lifelong Audiophile
Guitar Playin' FOOL
Ready to retire and age disgracefully!!!

The crew:
Washburn WD32SW and WD32S (WD32S soon to receive an under-bridge pickup)
Epiphone AJ-10 (campfire guitar!!)
Yamaha G231-II and G60A Classical guitars
A Hohner classical I left at a vacation home in SW KS.
Epiphone Dot '63 ES335  Repop, Epiphone Les Paul Custom II
Ibanez RX20
A cheap Circle K banjo I play when feelin' funky
Title: Anyone here play an acoustic bass????
Post by: KrisH on November 07, 2007, 08:08:24 PM
I've heard the same thing about the Michael Kelly basses, but have never been able to try one for myself.  I'd be interested in hearing your experience with a fretless one.  I dunno about a resonator bass, though . . .


-- Kris

2004 Taylor 214
2004 Washburn F52SW
2003 Washburn WD-46S (the Tank)
2002 Hohner HF-75
2000 Epiphone Dot Deluxe LE
1995 Fender Stratocaster
1967 Gibson EB-3 (My Precious)
Title: Anyone here play an acoustic bass????
Post by: buckethead on November 08, 2007, 12:19:26 AM
i herd about the firefly series that they are low quality... im not sure if its true butt if you get one look it over and make sure everything is good on it just in case...

the guitars:
B.C. Rich warlock
Washburn RB-2502
strat knock off

the amps:
Peavey Rage 158
Fender Rumble 100
Title: Anyone here play an acoustic bass????
Post by: YerDugliness on November 08, 2007, 11:59:33 AM
quote:
Originally posted by KrisH

I've heard the same thing about the Michael Kelly basses, but have never been able to try one for myself.  I'd be interested in hearing your experience with a fretless one.  I dunno about a resonator bass, though . . .



I've recently started going to a monthly bluegrass jam in Pearl, TX (that's the event that is acoustic only--please do not bring amplifiers)--not surprisingly, there are quite a few dobros in those jam rooms.  I can imagine a resonator bass might just harmonize very well with one of those dobros!!

Needless to say, if it's too expensive, I won't be getting one, but I certainly hope to get the chance to test drive one at least.

Dugly [8D]

YerDugliness, Esq./Post No Bills
Lifelong Audiophile
Guitar Playin' FOOL
Ready to retire and age disgracefully!!!

The crew:
Washburn WD32SW and WD32S (WD32S soon to receive an under-bridge pickup)
Epiphone AJ-10 (campfire guitar!!)
Yamaha G231-II and G60A Classical guitars
A Hohner classical I left at a vacation home in SW KS.
Epiphone Dot '63 ES335  Repop, Epiphone Les Paul Custom II
Ibanez RX20
A cheap Circle K banjo I play when feelin' funky
Title: Anyone here play an acoustic bass????
Post by: DanO on May 23, 2008, 12:41:46 PM
Hey there.  I'm new to this forum, and was just recently very lucky to snag a Washburn AB-30 from Ebay, and just love it.  that is the acoustic bass with bridge pickup and humbucker pickup.  I also have a Johnson acoustic/electric bass with the jumbo body that I'm planning on selling soon.  I've got flats on it, and it has a great sound, with pretty fair volume - it could keep up with one, maybe two guitars, but depending on how you and they play, could get drowned out pretty easily.  Actually, playing with a pick may give you a little more edge and volume.  If you check out the Talkbass forum, there are pages and pages on the same subject - pretty much unanimous that an acoustic bass guitar doesn't have the oomph to compete with acoustic guitars.  A big double bass would be another story.  I'd like to try that myself someday.  Talkbass has alot on double basses as well.  (I'm not trying to take away from this forum - sorry!)   (Another option is a battery-powered portable amp - I think Pignose makes one.)

Quality?  I guess you get what you pay for - the Johnson is cheap, from Korea, with pretty cheap electronics (I had to replace the bridge pickup and electronic module on mine.)  But, the sound is good - mine's several years  old and no warping or other issues.  Great for watching TV and plucking away.

The Washburn is really great - mines in pretty good condition, I need new strings, and (wouldn't you know it) the humbucking pickup is dead for string D.  I'll have to fix or replace that.  But, it's volume is quite a bit less than the Johnson - probably due to the Johnson jumbo body.  

That's my input.
Title: Anyone here play an acoustic bass????
Post by: buckethead on May 24, 2008, 12:44:49 AM
i ended up getting an ibanez ae 30 and its louder than most guitars ive played with but i do use a pick.
Title: Anyone here play an acoustic bass????
Post by: jeffy on August 12, 2008, 04:54:54 PM
I picked up an older Ibanez EB10E as my first bass,and while you can hear it unplugged,I doubt I could play in a group with it and be heard. Plugged in I really like the tone. It's full and open,even for a cheap bass. When I was shopping,my favorite was the Breedlove 4-string.It had a big unplugged sound! I thought it was a good price,just put of my range. I see alot of pro's using the Washburn acoustic bass...If I get a chance,I'd really like to play one!
Title: Anyone here play an acoustic bass????
Post by: buckethead on October 25, 2008, 02:56:53 AM
i know its been a while sense ive been here but the more and more i play my acustic the louder it gets and ive had jam sessions with just acoustic  and i hold my own. so i mean i guess i got lucky picking just the right acoustic =)
Title: Anyone here play an acoustic bass????
Post by: Tio Kimo on October 29, 2008, 05:31:00 PM
Dugly,
whatever happened to this GAS attack?


~kimo

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'88(?) Washburn HB-35TS
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