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Washburn Electric Guitars Forums => General Discussion on Washburn Electric Guitars => Topic started by: ledvedder on September 17, 2008, 09:03:58 PM

Title: Buyers beware of member (SINJINSMITH)
Post by: ledvedder on September 17, 2008, 09:03:58 PM
I just wanted to make everyone aware of this forum member.  He sold me a made in Japan N4.  Here is his posting, http://www.washburn.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13429&SearchTerms=mij,n4.  As you can see, the post states hard case included.  I also received an email from him stating that is was indeed a hard case.  It arrived in a cheap gigbag.  He also sent me pictures of the guitar, showing the strap buttons and a certain type of Floyd Rose.  It arrived with no strap buttons, and a different bridge.  When I asked if there were any problems with the guitar, he said no issues at all.  Well, I plugged it in, and the pickup selector didn't work.  I opened the cavities on the back of the guitar, and half of the wiring was disconnected.  I have a white wire going from the volume pot cavity to the pickup selector cavity, that is completely disconnected.  Also, the neck pickup wires are completely disconnected in the pickup selector cavity.  The only wire connected in the pickup selector cavity is a yellow wire going from the center point on the pickup selector switch to the volume pot cavity, where it is disconnected.  I've emailed him several times, and received no response.  I thought I'd give everyone on here a heads up about him.  Also, if anyone could help me out with the wiring, it would be much appreciated.  It is a 59 in the neck and a BL USA in the bridge.  I made sure to take them out and check.
Title: Buyers beware of member (SINJINSMITH)
Post by: Ayrton on September 17, 2008, 11:07:17 PM
Did you pay with Paypal? If you did, file a claim for safe measure. Even if you get nothing back, do it anyway.

Here is the wiring, unless you have a tone knob.

(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc123/ayrton252001/SD59BLUSA_NoSplit.jpg)
Title: Buyers beware of member (SINJINSMITH)
Post by: ledvedder on September 18, 2008, 07:20:55 AM
Thanks Ayrton.  I did file a claim with Paypal.  But they said, according to their user agreement, they only deal with shipping problems.  This guy had a posting up on here for another N4, http://www.washburn.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13502.  I'm wondering if anyone had any problems with that.
Title: Buyers beware of member (SINJINSMITH)
Post by: rumpelstiltzkin on September 18, 2008, 01:17:20 PM
Very sorry to hear about this ledvedder. I am surprised you maintained your cool in your original posting (I was enraged while reading it!). Thanks for posting about this person. I have no idea about the wiring :-|
Title: Buyers beware of member (SINJINSMITH)
Post by: ledvedder on September 18, 2008, 01:25:04 PM
Thanks for sympathy Rumpel.  Believe me, my head was about to explode while I was writing my post.
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Post by: DaveDaDude on September 18, 2008, 09:00:08 PM
I'm really surprised to find that PayPal ONLY covers the shipping.  I'll have to reconsider how I do business now.  

And... sorry you had that trouble.  Thanks for the tip!
Title: Buyers beware of member (SINJINSMITH)
Post by: ledvedder on September 18, 2008, 10:45:23 PM
Well guys, I got it wired up.  Thanks for the diagram, Ayrton.  I played for a bit on my little Marshall combo here at home.  Kids are asleep, so I can't crank it.  Band practice tomorrow night, so I'll let you know how it sounds cranked.  I also ordered a trem stop and a D-Tuna for it, can't wait to get them installed.  If anyone knows of a hard case that they are selling, please let me know.  My address is ledvedder at comcast dot net.
Title: Buyers beware of member (SINJINSMITH)
Post by: Ayrton on September 19, 2008, 12:22:58 AM
No problem...

I may have a line on a case as well.
Title: Buyers beware of member (SINJINSMITH)
Post by: ledvedder on September 19, 2008, 07:40:42 AM
Great, thanks Ayrton.  Keep me posted on that case.
Title: Buyers beware of member (SINJINSMITH)
Post by: woodstock1 on September 19, 2008, 01:01:37 PM
.....hope you didn't overpay.......at least it was japan.....so you got a good basic axe......9 years ago, i got a warlock from a maryland dealer.....poorly packed......with headstock lockers missing.....as well as the whole jack and jack plate.....i did get 14 bucks back by raising hell.....buying long distance is always a risk.......on ebay, i ask a lot of questions before bidding.......best of luck with the guitar......it just may turn out to be decent.........jim
Title: Buyers beware of member (SINJINSMITH)
Post by: Gilbertfan on September 19, 2008, 04:22:47 PM
What an aweful experience hope you get it all sorted. What was the trem? I have a Schaller Washburn trem I took out my N4 to replace with OFR if you need a better trem. THe Schaller wasn't bad but heard the OFR was better. Give me a shout if any use to you!!
Title: Buyers beware of member (SINJINSMITH)
Post by: ledvedder on September 19, 2008, 11:42:07 PM
Thanks Gilbertfan,  it was just a Washburn trem.  Sure I'm interested in the Schaller.  How much are you asking?
Title: Buyers beware of member (SINJINSMITH)
Post by: Gilbertfan on September 20, 2008, 05:51:16 AM
Just to warn ledvedder the trem is a Schaller made for Washburn trem so it has Washburn on it but also says MAde In Germany Schaller. Let me check out evilbay as to what people are selling trems 2nd hand and I'll get back to you.
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Post by: Gilbertfan on September 20, 2008, 05:59:53 AM
There is one there used just now starting bid $50 so I would settle for say $55 and postage. My email is s.cochrane296@btinternet.com let me know if this is suitable or if you want pics of anything and let me know where you are so i could get a postage price for you.
Title: Buyers beware of member (SINJINSMITH)
Post by: Gilbertfan on September 20, 2008, 06:01:58 AM
My guess is the sinjins**t character will not resurface since he has got rid of his Washburns but if any of you are members of other forum let your mates know!!!
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Post by: jeffy on September 23, 2008, 02:10:59 PM
Sounds like he sold you on one and sent you the other....
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Post by: ledvedder on September 24, 2008, 09:20:21 AM
I've fixed the wiring, and it sounds amazing.  The only problem I'm having now, is the 59 in the neck doesn't sit low enough in the pickup cavity, so when I play higher up on the neck, the strings are hitting the pickup.  Has anyone had to route the neck pickup cavity out more to accomodate for the pickup?  Also, does anyone have a recommended pickup height (distance from the strings) for the 59 in the neck and the BL in the bridge?
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Post by: Ayrton on September 24, 2008, 11:06:31 AM
Sounds like you have a vintage plate '59 (longer legs). How low will the pup sit in the cavity if you were to direct mount it?
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Post by: lynchfan6 on September 24, 2008, 03:23:43 PM
If you used paypal and used your credit card through paypal to fund your purchase, YOU CAN do a chargeback!  Your credit card company is the one to call, and they will get it done!  This is provided that you want to send the guitar back for a refund.  You simply send it back after taking some pictures, keep all the tracking info, etc. to verify it was returned, and then call your credit card company.
Title: Buyers beware of member (SINJINSMITH)
Post by: ledvedder on September 24, 2008, 10:19:52 PM
Ayrton,
The pickup legs are directly on the bottom of the cavity now.

lynchfan,
Thanks for the info, but I think I'm going to keep it.  Still, at $450, I think it was still a steal.  Still looking for a hard case though.
Title: Buyers beware of member (SINJINSMITH)
Post by: Ayrton on September 25, 2008, 04:37:30 PM
quote:
Originally posted by ledvedder

Great, thanks Ayrton.  Keep me posted on that case.



Got you a case...

email me and I will send you the contact info. I bought three for myself, and he only has one left.