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Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: onewilyfool on March 26, 2010, 09:28:41 PM
SINCE THAT CANADIAN COMPANY TOOK IT OVER????? Any info? Are they still going to make acoustics?????
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: Pike on March 26, 2010, 10:44:54 PM
They seem to be making some decent, affordable solid topped dreads Wiley, and hopefully we won't see crappy B stocks...

http://www.washburn.com/news-and-reviews/news/15-55-series.html
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: Lunaray on March 29, 2010, 08:53:00 AM
So we lost another home grown guitar, when did this happen and who owns Washburn now?  I hate to sound so negative, but I can't think of a time when something like this happened, that it didn't turn out to be a bad thing.

Ray
(http://www.nehalemriver.com)  
Antique Washburn Parlor, Model 5200 (http://www.nehalemriver.com/washburn.htm)
Music is best when it's played around a campfire!
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: Junior88 on March 29, 2010, 08:56:49 AM
Erm, Ray, I wouldn't exactly call the old washburn acoustics home grown.. There weren't any MIA models!

Besides, whats wrong with us?

Washburn N2, Washburn F10S
I've got some other stuff too.. Everything from guitars to a Balalaika.
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: magoo99 on March 29, 2010, 09:12:38 AM
Jam Industries now owns Washburn ray, they are a Canadian company. and it seems so far so good. There making some nice looking guitars and I visited my local wahsy dealer last week and seen some of jams gear around at great prices pretty good quality. Got one of their mic stands..not a great one but damn good for $20.
plus all the guys at the shop seemed to think it its a good thing.
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: Lunaray on March 29, 2010, 09:17:09 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Junior88

Erm, Ray, I wouldn't exactly call the old washburn acoustics home grown.. There weren't any MIA models!

Besides, whats wrong with us?

Washburn N2, Washburn F10S
I've got some other stuff too.. Everything from guitars to a Balalaika.


Nothing wrong with Canada at all, you guys make some of the best guitars in the world, my point is that it seems whenever a company is absorbed by another company, they lose their identity and the next thing you know, they don't exist anymore.  I love my Ovation too, but it seems like since the company was bought by Fender, the marketing has shriveled up.

And as for being home-grown, there were a lot of american made Washburns, my god, the company was established back in the 1800's, if that doesn't make it Home Grown, what is your definition of home-grown?

Ray
(http://www.nehalemriver.com)  
Antique Washburn Parlor, Model 5200 (http://www.nehalemriver.com/washburn.htm)
Music is best when it's played around a campfire!
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: Lunaray on March 29, 2010, 09:30:45 AM
quote:
Originally posted by magoo99

Jam Industries now owns Washburn ray, they are a Canadian company. and it seems so far so good. There making some nice looking guitars and I visited my local wahsy dealer last week and seen some of jams gear around at great prices pretty good quality. Got one of their mic stands..not a great one but damn good for $20.
plus all the guys at the shop seemed to think it its a good thing.

Hope you're right Magoo!

Ray
(http://www.nehalemriver.com)  
Antique Washburn Parlor, Model 5200 (http://www.nehalemriver.com/washburn.htm)
Music is best when it's played around a campfire!
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: Quinn Spalpeen on March 29, 2010, 09:55:14 AM
Any difference we (the consumer) see will be no different than what would have happen if parent company was in Houston, New York City, Miami, or L.A.   The guitars will still be made by the same people and same places as before.

If there are significant changes, they'll have little to do with where the new owners are from, less than the business and marketing strategies they choose.

A Canadian corporate headquarters, or U.K. or Irish, or even Chinese is just a building with decision-makers in it.  Smart businessmen can be officed any where.

What I want to know is where are they cutting costs to put out this new line at such low prices?  Were they over charging before?  Or have they reduced the quality in some significant fashion?





Nothing under the sun is new Watson. .... Sherlock Holmes

I have some of this, and some of that.
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: Tio Kimo on March 29, 2010, 02:31:26 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Quinn Spalpeen
What I want to know is where are they cutting costs to put out this new line at such low prices?  Were they over charging before?  Or have they reduced the quality in some significant fashion?


Or are they sacrificing profit to gain market share? That is not an uncommon approach in a downturn. In the event that JAM has established profit generators elsewhere in their stable, and with the industry buzz and scrutiny currently in play due to the acquisition, they may simply choose this time to cover their costs, get the product accepted as far and wide as possible, earn some good karma, and build earnings on that brand name metamorphosis down the road.

Strictly speculation on my part.
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: Quinn Spalpeen on March 29, 2010, 02:49:09 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Tio Kimo

Strictly speculation on my part.


It makes sense,  I had been pondering the same thing, Fender for example had hiked their prices over a year ago by about a third.  Then in the last four to six months they are back down to the 2008 levels. I was thinking the economy and consumer wisdom was the reason.

But the new Washburn prices are way below the current prices of the old standard, D10S, which makes me think that they have found some place to significantly reduce their costs.

Nothing under the sun is new Watson. .... Sherlock Holmes

I have some of this, and some of that.
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: Junior88 on March 29, 2010, 05:12:44 PM
quote:
And as for being home-grown, there were a lot of american made Washburns, my god, the company was established back in the 1800's, if that doesn't make it Home Grown, what is your definition of home-grown?


Yeah, I get that. But for the last however many years 80% of their guitars are made in asia.. I guess what I meant was that as soon as a company is producing guitars elsewhere, they aren't 100% home gown at all. I would say thet Washburn started out as a small bean sprout, grown organically, but bthen it started using fertelizer and stuff from Asia, losing its organic-ness, just because it has been trans-planted, doesn't mean it won't grow as well.


Washburn N2, Washburn F10S
I've got some other stuff too.. Everything from guitars to a Balalaika.
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: Pike on March 29, 2010, 05:18:02 PM
That sweet little asian made F10s you're loving isn't any less a Washburn, eh Junior?
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: Squint on March 29, 2010, 05:44:02 PM
My Yamaki Japanese made Prairie Song Custom sounds and plays better (to ME) than a Bourgeois Ricky Skaggs I put her up against, but that's just my humble opinion based upon personal preferrence.


'93 Washburn J-9 Washington
'97 Washburn J-9 Washington  
'02 Washburn J28SCEDL Cumberland
'90 Washburn EA20YBR Festival
'83 Washburn D66SW Prairie Song Custom
'04 Washburn D104SCE  
'04 & '05 D'Aquisto CENTURAS (violin burst)
'77 Electra X-410 Jazz Strad
'77 Electra Maple Pro (autographed by Bill Nelson)
'04 Aria PE SPL DLX SD
'82 Aria ProII Thor Sound 600
'05 Agile 2500-12
'06 Agile TC-630
Fender P-bass


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Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: Junior88 on March 29, 2010, 06:13:22 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Pike

That sweet little asian made F10s you're loving isn't any less a Washburn, eh Junior?



Don't f*** with my words like that Pike.. LOL

Im not dissing Asian guitars AT ALL. And im not saying that a company isn't a good company if it's products are from Asia. But what im saying is that a company isn't organically home-grown, if the asians helped by providing (quite amazing) products and labour.

Washburn N2, Washburn F10S
I've got some other stuff too.. Everything from guitars to a Balalaika.
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: Pike on March 29, 2010, 07:02:20 PM
I know what you meant J, just ribbin' ya'...
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: gregjones on March 29, 2010, 07:15:49 PM
Ruffle his little feathers...........

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[:D][:D][:D]
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: DontTreadOnMe on March 29, 2010, 10:03:27 PM
It really is dissapointing that they can't keep up a USA made line of acoustics.  Since the 'rebirth' of Washburn in the '70's, the D80 series were the only true 'Made by Wasburn' acoustics, right?  
For what they were - USA made all solid top-of-the-line acoustics for under $2,000, it should have been a no-brainer to stay sold-out.  I was kinda thinking that the D80 series was the 'holy grail' of modern era Washburns and looking forward to maybe getting one in the future, then they close up shop.  Well, maybe the future holds another 'made in... North America' line? I hope so.

Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: Pike on March 29, 2010, 10:16:41 PM
quote:
It really is dissapointing that they can't keep up a USA made line of acoustics
We can only hope Greg. I'd still like to see a high end solid wood line built like the early 70's models.
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: Zeroroaster on March 29, 2010, 11:26:43 PM

Hmmm. JAM industries...No, I won't continue my rant. I will merely say that we've completely circumnavigated them entirely as a supplier. Funny how they aren't quite as omniscient as they figured they ought to be. We're still in business, doing better, and without a single Washburn or JAM product in the shop.

Could it be that maybe, just maybe there's a whole lot of people in this music pool? Could it also be that it's become brutally competitive and that there's many manufacturers making killer product at great prices? I would certainly think so. Thanks to a strong loonie and slicker than ever customs brokering, the arrogant Canadian distributors can (insert expletive derogatory term of choice here).

We've had absolutely no trouble finding good gear at the proper price points and frankly, the buying public doesn't really give a damn about brand. Really? Yeah, it surprises the h*** out of me too! Mind you, every guitar in here is set up perfectly, tuned once a day, and polished after every time it gets taken down from the wall. We also take time to converse with everyone that walks in here, find out what they're looking for, and then make it happen. The only brand anyone gives a damn about around here are the ones we say are worth it...interesting, hunh?

So, about JAM, etc, I wish them all the success in the world, but I ain't helping one bit.[:D]
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: Quinn Spalpeen on March 30, 2010, 11:28:05 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Squint

It will take a few years for us to see how these new Canadian models hold up, but one would think that compared to Chinese guitars flooding the market, there wouldn't be anything to compare.


These new Canadian models are Chinese. It's just the new owners that are Canadian, not the guitars.



Nothing under the sun is new Watson. .... Sherlock Holmes

I have some of this, and some of that.
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: Squint on March 30, 2010, 05:20:03 PM
Oh goody! Someone actually understands sarcasm!
The Canadians invented that, you know.

But the Chinese are catching up!

Besides, we discussed that already.

'93 Washburn J-9 Washington
'97 Washburn J-9 Washington  
'02 Washburn J28SCEDL Cumberland
'90 Washburn EA20YBR Festival
'83 Washburn D66SW Prairie Song Custom
'04 Washburn D104SCE  
'04 & '05 D'Aquisto CENTURAS (violin burst)
'77 Electra X-410 Jazz Strad
'77 Electra Maple Pro (autographed by Bill Nelson)
'04 Aria PE SPL DLX SD
'82 Aria ProII Thor Sound 600
'05 Agile 2500-12
'06 Agile TC-630
Fender P-bass


ANOTHER PROUD MEMBER OF THE CUMBERLAND BRIGADE!

www.soundclick.com/thecoastalcowboys
www.myspace.com/thecoastalcowboys
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: onewilyfool on March 30, 2010, 07:34:46 PM
It would be nice if we got some american ( or NORTH American) guitars made here or in Canada. I know there are lots of guitar workers up there, since Gibson absorbed Garrison guitars, then closed the factory????? It would be nice to see some top of the line all wood american made,  acoustic Washburns again.....like Pike has......lol
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: Zeroroaster on March 31, 2010, 10:39:04 AM
Hey OWF,

Seagull, Norman, Godin (and the rest of that bunch)...all made in Quebec. Awesome guitars. I've got a Norman 12 string, and my father in law just bought a fancy Seagull with the whizzy pre-amp/tuner/tv remote built in. Very nice.

As for the nice people at Garrison, that was a boo-boo of classic proportions. As if a pig like Gibson would've kept that there.
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: magoo99 on March 31, 2010, 12:02:01 PM
quote:
As for the nice people at Garrison, that was a boo-boo of classic proportions. As if a pig like Gibson would've kept that there.




Yep took only months to close it down, now we have some pretty good Luther's up here out of work and a guitar company that was working to do it right  and were working to fix the humidity trouble squashed..The way Gibson and fender roll


On the upside I can get work done well and cheap.

what about Morgan and larvae Guitars..Are they still being made in Canada
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: Junior88 on March 31, 2010, 12:31:11 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Zeroroaster

Hey OWF,

Seagull, Norman, Godin (and the rest of that bunch)...all made in Quebec. Awesome guitars. I've got a Norman 12 string, and my father in law just bought a fancy Seagull with the whizzy pre-amp/tuner/tv remote built in. Very nice.

As for the nice people at Garrison, that was a boo-boo of classic proportions. As if a pig like Gibson would've kept that there.

No matter how much your guitar cost, if you suck, you suck.


I also have an Art & Lutherie acoustic. It's an awesome guitar. One of my faves!

Oh, and Magoo, I'm pretty sure that Larivee's are still made up here..

Washburn N2, Washburn F10S
I've got some other stuff too.. Everything from guitars to a Balalaika.
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: Zeroroaster on March 31, 2010, 10:35:20 PM

Yeah Magoo...both Larivee and Morgan are being made in Canada. Morgan Monroe on the other hand, is being made offshore. I must say though, Morgan Monroe's 'Blues 32' has sure got my attention. What a sweet little guitar.

Ok, back to the topic...yeah Junior, those Art & Lutherie units are pretty nice. I've set up a bunch of them. Good bang for the buck. In fact, all of the axes coming out of LaPatrie, QC are decent. I'm still not sure why we're not a Godin dealer...wait, I know!! Because EVERYBODY ELSE IS!!! Man, pretty soon you'll be able to buy Godin products at your local 7/11...[:D]

Definitely not a guitar to buy if you want to be unique...
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: Pining on April 01, 2010, 02:14:31 AM
I'm not sure that there is any difference in the product, when the base of the company is in the USA or Canada (although the Seagull Guitars don't appear to bad at all!)if the product is coming from China.
Looking at the solid tops, they appear to be pushing Canadian wood. Maybe manufacture might be going to Canada.
It would be good to hear something from the company though...
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: georgeo on May 10, 2010, 03:18:47 PM
the only guitar I own that wasnt made in the US is a paul reed smith korean made custom se play nice,sounds good,cost under 500 bucks
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: onewilyfool on July 06, 2010, 03:00:58 PM
Just checking my old post, any new info arise about the state of affairs at Washburn? I REALLY like to buy American (or Canadian) when possible....just my preference, but I can't find any info about new runs of American made Washburns? Pike are you selling any????....lol
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: strings on July 06, 2010, 09:25:33 PM
hey as far as I am concerned any Washburn acoustic with a Butterfly Bridge is now considered a collectors item  I do not like the new Bat style bridge , so is this a marketing ploy to reinstate the values of a good acoustic Washburn , yes I am always looking for that used Washburn Acoustic , so whats are your  opinions on that  ;;;;;;;;;; strings yes here in The New Homeland of WASHBURN ;;;;;;;;;did someone say CANADA EH!
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Post by: radenshirinji on July 06, 2010, 09:38:22 PM
Why was Washburn sold to a Canadian company?
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Post by: Rocket on July 06, 2010, 11:18:50 PM
quote:
Originally posted by radenshirinji

Why was Washburn sold to a Canadian company?

They were the only ones to bring beer to the negotiation table.
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: Tio Kimo on July 06, 2010, 11:36:51 PM
quote:
Originally posted by radenshirinji

Why was Washburn sold to a Canadian company?



The fact that they are Canadian, as said earlier, is pretty irrelevant. Jam is already well established importing guitars and other musical equipment from the very same plants in Asia that US Music uses, and selling all those products to a shared customer base they know and understand well. Additionally, they likely gained inroads to some American customers that they previously were not reaching. On paper, it would seem a pretty good choice. With Fender and Gibson setting precedent of buying then burying name brands that may compete for marketshare, I for one would think its a good thing that an established distributor, without a marquis name to protect, would step up and offer the Austrian owner of company of MANY name brands, one of which is a historically American, the necessary buyout package.

Time will tell if it's good for the Washburn brand name or not. I can't speculate on that. Bear in mind, these new owners made a business decision, with the only intent to make money. That's business. If the Washburn products are deemed by them to be ill equipped, they'll take the resources and leverage them differently. They'll sink more into Parker, or Randall, or simply use the staffing, custom shop and distrubution network to get their other brands out there (Hagstrom being one)

It'll be interesting to watch.
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: onewilyfool on July 13, 2010, 02:41:16 PM
Are there any monitors from the company that visit this forum? Do they know if Washburn is making Canadian or American solid wood guitars or custom guitars?
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: vheissu on July 14, 2010, 07:50:00 AM
Well seeing as the custom shop has been closed down, I find it fairly unlikely that they're making custom guitars [:p] As for any US mades, I'm not 100%, but I THINK I saw something saying that was ceasing as well. Although boy do I hope I'm wrong about that!
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: onewilyfool on July 14, 2010, 12:47:30 PM
What a shame.......even if they don't make a lot of money off the deal, it would be great to have american made Washburns again.......sigh
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: magoo99 on July 14, 2010, 01:06:06 PM
I know one thing, they are flooding my local washy store with lots of product..NO GUITARS YET! I was told they are comming.
But we got so mic stands fr the jam lable[jamstands] last mth and they are alright. pretty good for cheap stands..I got them for $20 each and they are as good or better than my profile stands...I'm gonna get a couple more before the price gos up..why not they work and hold my mic..thats all i care about...LMAO
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: magoo99 on July 14, 2010, 01:08:03 PM
quote:
great to have American made Washburns again.......sigh


Would be great to have American made anything these days.
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: Tio Kimo on July 14, 2010, 01:24:17 PM
THE CUSTOM SHOP ISNT CLOSED!!!!!!!!

It's just making very limited quantities of guitars at the moment, and hasn't made any acoustics in a couple of years. There are no plans to change any of that.

I'm not a mod or an employee, but I have had the pleasure of visiting and chatting with the head of global manufacturing and the head of custom shop production, at the plant in May. Also, WB-Nick has addressed this on the forum in recent months. They're making guitars every day, as we speak. They've selected a couple of Washburn models, Parker models, and other contract work to keep the shop running while ownership and marketing determine where they are taking things.

Guys, guitar manufacturers, even the big boys, are seriously hurting right now. I know of a parts supplier to Gibson Nashville who took an LP as partial payment on a factory invoice 'cuz cash is so tight for them! Jam just took over a company that was already pondering its future, and has made moves that I may not like or agree with, but I get that they're hurtin', and they're doing what they gotta do.


Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: Rocket on July 14, 2010, 01:30:23 PM
Have you visited since the Jam acquisition?
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: Tio Kimo on July 14, 2010, 01:36:06 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Tio Kimo



I'm not a mod or an employee, but I have had the pleasure of visiting and chatting with the head of global manufacturing and the head of custom shop production, at the plant in May.



yep, 10 weeks ago.
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: onewilyfool on July 15, 2010, 04:42:58 PM
Well....since Gibson put Garrison out of business, I know there are a lot of unemployed luthiers in Canada, that could make a start.....just a thought
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: YerDugliness on July 15, 2010, 08:05:27 PM
quote:
Originally posted by onewilyfool

Well....since Gibson put Garrison out of business, I know there are a lot of unemployed luthiers in Canada, that could make a start.....just a thought



The rant from a member on the Ep****ne forum:

I have been playing and singing the praises of Ep****ne guitars for over 20 years, I have owned over 30 Ep****ne guitars and now have 6 Ep****ne guitars all of which were made in Japan or Korea, all old, and I can't find a new Epiphone worth buying. Thats sad ain't it? I WANT A NEW EP****NE, BUT CANNOT FIND AN ACCEPTABLE GUITAR THAT EVEN COMES CLOSE TO MY OLD EP****NES. You should be moving forward with the company, making better guitars. But right now we are wittnessing the decline of Gibson/ Ep****ne. PLeasae do not be so sure of yourselfs you stop caring about fine guitars and you customers.

The answer from Gibson:

...it’s not just about sales. We continuously monitor and review quality related data. Currently, we have a less than 0.5% return rate. Additionally, I speak with customers and visit retailers often and in general, they are very happy with our quality. I also believe that the guitars coming out of our factories in China are exceptional instruments. I, like many Ep****ne employees, have been playing guitar most of my life. As a company we understand guitars and we are passionate about their performance.

It seems this is not just a Washburn issue.....sounds like it is a global issue.  I can attest that my Yamaki made D61SW(CE) is one finely made guitar, but it was made with much different procedures from the mass-producing Oriental factories we're talking about here.

I'm quite sad to see that Washburn doesn't seem to have any SW guitars in their new lineup....information from a reliable source indicates when the J-series all solid wood guitars are sold, they won't be making more.....we talk about the dumbing down of our educational system and society in general, looks like this is going to be the dumbing down of the industry.  How long ago would it have been impossible for Gibson to accept the output from an Oriental mass-product factory as acceptable?  Probably no longer ago than when Washburn could proudly point to producing a number of solid-wood guitars in their line.

Dugly [8D]

YerDugliness, Esq./Post No Bills
Guitar Playin' FOOL, retired & attempting to age disgracefully!!
Washburns: WD32SW, D61SW, and C124SW
Other fine acoustic guitars by Breedlove (custom shop Revival Series 000), Darren Hippner (#506), Takamini (2005 LTD), Epiphone (Masterbilt AJ500RC), and Yamaha (G231-II)

Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: Pining on July 15, 2010, 09:23:07 PM
I disagree that the industry as a whole is dumbing down. Certain manufacturers are looking for their slot in the market with an eye to maximising profits. You can still get a real good guitar if you want one, it just mightn't be the brand you used to believe in.

As for Wasburn at the moment, I can get a hand on plenty of their old stock at the moment, lots of places are selling it, none on the cheap. I have seen one new guitar, WD10S and it was more expensive than it's older equivalent.

As for the Washburn site, apart from listing the WD series, the company has paid it almost zero interest. I am down to looking at it once a month, for no news as yet. I must admit that I only come her to look at the forum now to see if there is anything interesting posted.
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Post by: Toaster20 on July 16, 2010, 07:34:48 AM
These are crazy times.  Once we get out of this *** **** recession, anything is possible.
Supply and Demand will once again determine what's available for sale.

My personal thoughts - Americans want American-made products at Asian-made prices.
We can't have it both ways whether we're talking about guitars or autos or clothing.

________________________
Just do it
T20

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Post by: WB-Nick on July 16, 2010, 08:30:34 AM
quote:

I'm quite sad to see that Washburn doesn't seem to have any SW guitars in their new lineup....information from a reliable source indicates when the J-series all solid wood guitars are sold, they won't be making more.....we talk about the dumbing down of our educational system and society in general, looks like this is going to be the dumbing down of the industry.  How long ago would it have been impossible for Gibson to accept the output from an Oriental mass-product factory as acceptable?  Probably no longer ago than when Washburn could proudly point to producing a number of solid-wood guitars in their line.


Please tell me who this reliable source is.  We are absolutely going forward with All Solid Wood guitars.  We had a new one at Summer Namm.  I have several more in the works. They will be in the new catalog which is coming soon. By the way, they sound amazing and you won't believe the prices when you see them.  Be patient.
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Post by: WB-Nick on July 16, 2010, 08:36:32 AM
By the way, here are the model numbers for some of the new All Solid Wood models so you can keep your eye out for them.

WD150SW - Solid Sitka Spruce top / Solid Mahogany back and sides
WD160SW - Solid Cedar top / Solid Mahogany back and sides
WD170SW - Solid Englemann Spruce top / Solid Mahogany back and sides
WD250SW - Solid Sitka Spruce top / Solid Rosewood back and sides
WD260SW - Solid Cedar top / Solid Rosewood back and sides
WD750SW - Solid Sitka Spruce top / Solid Ovankol back and sides
WD760SW - Solid Cedar top / Solid Ovankol back and sides
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: Rocket on July 16, 2010, 08:48:21 AM
quote:
Originally posted by WB-Nick

We are absolutely going forward with All Solid Wood guitars.  We had a new one at Summer Namm.  I have several more in the works. They will be in the new catalog which is coming soon. By the way, they sound amazing and you won't believe the prices when you see them.  Be patient.

Don't say it Nick... remember, the last time we were told to be patient it took two additional years to actually produce the models and you still can't find one in a store.
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: YerDugliness on July 16, 2010, 09:39:48 AM
quote:
Originally posted by WB-Nick

By the way, here are the model numbers for some of the new All Solid Wood models so you can keep your eye out for them.

WD150SW - Solid Sitka Spruce top / Solid Mahogany back and sides
WD160SW - Solid Cedar top / Solid Mahogany back and sides
WD170SW - Solid Englemann Spruce top / Solid Mahogany back and sides
WD250SW - Solid Sitka Spruce top / Solid Rosewood back and sides
WD260SW - Solid Cedar top / Solid Rosewood back and sides
WD750SW - Solid Sitka Spruce top / Solid Ovankol back and sides
WD760SW - Solid Cedar top / Solid Ovankol back and sides




Cheers to you, Nick!  I stand corrected....and gladly!  I'm happy to see that Washburn is going to continue to offer all solid-wood guitars.....now, if we could only get some U.S. production, too, we'd be making great progress!

I'd like to add that I second Rocket's suggestion.....get these things into the hands of your dealers WITHOUT the need for customers to pre-pay for the guitars.  The number of the faithful who are on this forum is miniscule compared to the number of customers who MIGHT buy a Washburn if they could just get their hands on one in a showroom crowded with examples of guitars made by Washburn's competitors.

I notice  these are all dreadnought models....any plans to offer different body styles? I quit buying dreads long ago...got loaded up on them and needed more diversity in the crew.

How about letting us in on at least the price range?

Thanks, again!

Dugly [8D]

YerDugliness, Esq./Post No Bills
Guitar Playin' FOOL, retired & attempting to age disgracefully!!
Washburns: WD32SW, D61SW, and C124SW
Other fine acoustic guitars by Breedlove (custom shop Revival Series 000), Darren Hippner (#506), Takamini (2005 LTD), Epiphone (Masterbilt AJ500RC), and Yamaha (G231-II)

Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: WB-Nick on July 19, 2010, 08:44:17 AM
Yes, i will do other body styles but started with DN.  Yes, i realize we need to get these into the hands of our dealers.  I think Rocket was referring to the D64SW not being available in any stores.  I've priced these well enough that i don't think that will be a problem.  We have also stepped up our marketing (you should be seeing alot of Washburn in magazines) and we have been running alot of promotions.  The All Solids will start at $499.  I am working on trying to make Washburn acoustics again but no promises.
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: Quinn Spalpeen on July 19, 2010, 01:41:25 PM
quote:
Originally posted by WB-Nick I am working on trying to make Washburn acoustics again but no promises.


Do you mean here in the USA? Please tell me that is what you mean.



Nothing under the sun is new Watson. .... Sherlock Holmes

I have some of this, and some of that.
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: WB-Nick on July 19, 2010, 01:49:05 PM
Yes, that's what i meant.  Sorry, i left out USA between Washburn and acoustics.
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: Quinn Spalpeen on July 19, 2010, 05:26:42 PM
quote:
Originally posted by WB-Nick

Yes, that's what i meant.  Sorry, i left out USA between Washburn and acoustics.


That would be very cool (and smart).  Even if Washburn still didn't make a ton of profit from it, directly, you may find that the Washburn name appeared more with some more prominent artists. In general, I would think that more people would at least look and consider.

Nick how would that work, if it's not a corporate secret. Would you guys like draw up specs and shop around for an established manufacturer to build them for you?  It seems to me, that the required skilled work force and shop would be very expensive just to test the waters.




Nothing under the sun is new Watson. .... Sherlock Holmes

I have some of this, and some of that.
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: onewilyfool on July 25, 2010, 01:32:44 PM
Nick.....that is great news......the tradition continues.....
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: gregjones on July 25, 2010, 07:34:09 PM
quote:
Originally posted by YerDugliness


I notice these are all dreadnought models....any plans to offer different body styles? I quit buying dreads long ago...



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But, make that SMALLER styles, Jumbos go the wrong way.
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: onewilyfool on July 28, 2010, 07:09:00 PM
Greg....I agree.....I would like to see some re-issues of some of those vintage Tonk Bros. Washburns that are larger than a parlor, but smaller than Jumbos and Dreads. I've played some that would knock your socks off. They have had such a huge success with their re-issue of the old parlors and 125 year anniversary guitars, that an American made version of this guitar for instance, would be SOOOOOOOO cool!!!!! Tonk Bros. Washburn 5240.  I would get one. Nick, I'll bet you could get some pre-sales on this one.....lol

http://www.frets.com/FRETSPages/Museum/Guitar/Washburn/Tonk5240/tonk5240.html
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: onewilyfool on July 28, 2010, 07:14:17 PM
Here's another

http://images.yuku.com/image/pjpeg/bb835cccc7dd1355bd132b3ae87c15c4d98eb17.pjpg

http://images.yuku.com/image/pjpeg/854152cd15bb28e7f955601cad717e7ccf40f4c.pjpg

http://images.yuku.com/image/pjpeg/c97351f1c6801a11b3e52f6aec503811c56caa1.pjpg
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: deltacaster on August 04, 2010, 01:54:05 PM
quote:
Originally posted by radenshirinji

Why was Washburn sold to a Canadian company?



It's more of a matter of the owner since the 1970's decided to retire than anything else honestly.  I don't know his age, but I'll guess he was in his 70's and it was time to move on.  The company is in very capable corporate hands with JAM industries, the US custom shop is still here outside Chicago, as well as our sales offices and the like.

If you want to be theoretical Mr. Schlacher, the former owner was Austrian, but let's not split hairs.  He had run a Chicago guitar company successfully since even before he affiliated himself with the Washburn line, and was a true pioneer of bringing quality instruments to the masses at an affordable price.
Title: So.....what's happened to Washburn ????
Post by: WB-Nick on August 10, 2010, 11:58:18 AM
I think Rudy will be 68 on October 5th.  In case anybody cares.

I agree with Rocket that it was beer.