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Title: Help Me Choose a Guitar...
Post by: Ready3Buy on January 04, 2011, 08:32:10 AM
I played a WD10 at the store and it's great. But it's the only Washburn they had and I'm not willing to spend the hours going to other stores especially when I can't compare them all side by side.

I'm willing to spend up to $500 ... are there other models that I'd find play/sound even much better? (or are they all basically the same for each series with ornamental differences? ... plain is super fine with me an shape doesn't matter... for example do the WD and WF play/sound any different? )
Title: Help Me Choose a Guitar...
Post by: DontTreadOnMe on January 04, 2011, 09:45:09 AM
Thomas, this being a Washburn forum, it's best to reserve comments, especially recommendations, to Washburn products.

Title: Help Me Choose a Guitar...
Post by: thomas.breitfeller on January 04, 2011, 09:48:59 AM
oops, sorry, i removed the post.
Title: Help Me Choose a Guitar...
Post by: thomas.breitfeller on January 04, 2011, 09:52:40 AM
okay i found a real steal for ya. A Washburn D52SWCEK and for a really good price at instrumentpro. Its under 500 and all solid wood and its acoustic-electric. great deal
Title: Help Me Choose a Guitar...
Post by: DontTreadOnMe on January 04, 2011, 10:04:51 AM
No problem Thomas.  The solid wood guitars can be finicky with temperature and humidity, so although they generally sound better they may not be the best choice.  The WD10 with laminate sides and back will be very stable.  

Ready3buy, if you've played a WD10 and think it's great and it's in your budget, and you don't want to spend hours running around...  sounds like the WD10 meets your criteria. Just checking, but did you play the WD10 or WD10S?  Only difference is the WD10S has a solid top which will sound better with age, the laminate top will always pretty much be the same.

You can find guitars that sound and play different, but relying on someone's opinion versus your personal experience may not suit what you're looking for.





Title: Help Me Choose a Guitar...
Post by: Quinn Spalpeen on January 04, 2011, 10:05:07 AM
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Originally posted by thomas.breitfeller

okay i found a real steal for ya. A Washburn D52SWCEK and for a really good price at instrumentpro. Its under 500 and all solid wood and its acoustic-electric. great deal


Good luck with them actually really surely maybe possibly definitely having one in stock.

But they will be glad to sell you one, gladly not have it and gladly talk you into buying something else after you place your order. Digital Piano
Marshall AS50D
Fender Super Champ XD
Title: Help Me Choose a Guitar...
Post by: thomas.breitfeller on January 04, 2011, 10:55:07 AM
really, that is pretty awful. I've never purchased from them I just looked for the best price for that instrument. And for don't tread on me, I agree that solid wood could be tricky with temperature/humidity, but from anywhere from $9-50 dollars you can get a guitar humidifier, but that's just me. Laminate is stable, and the sound does not change, very much agreed.
Title: Help Me Choose a Guitar...
Post by: Ready3Buy on January 04, 2011, 11:17:13 AM
Called Washburn and they confirmed that if you're not accustomed to talking care of a fine guitar the all solid wood isn't a good choice. I'm getting the WD10S. Thanks folks.
Title: Help Me Choose a Guitar...
Post by: Quinn Spalpeen on January 04, 2011, 11:25:17 AM
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Originally posted by Ready3Buy

 I'm getting the WD10S. Thanks folks.


Be sure to check with Jon at Funky Munky Music.  He's a forum member and might be able to give you a very good price deal.

 Digital Piano
Marshall AS50D
Fender Super Champ XD
Title: Help Me Choose a Guitar...
Post by: DontTreadOnMe on January 04, 2011, 11:33:02 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Ready3Buy

Called Washburn and they confirmed that if you're not accustomed to talking care of a fine guitar the all solid wood isn't a good choice. I'm getting the WD10S. Thanks folks.



cool - when you get it, post up some pics, it's always good to see photo's of actual guitars instead of just the catalog/online pics.
Title: Help Me Choose a Guitar...
Post by: thomas.breitfeller on January 04, 2011, 12:03:19 PM
glad you made a final choice, happy strumming :)
Title: Help Me Choose a Guitar...
Post by: Pining on January 05, 2011, 03:09:49 AM
It is nice to hear you have decided on your guitar. Have fun with it.
For temperature to have an adverse effect on a new solid guitar you purchase, you would have to live in an unusual climate, take poor care of the guitar, orhave purchased a lemon.
The benefits of solid outway the benefits of laminate by a long way. It's why you pay extra.
There is certainly nothing wrong with laminate, it is not as good as solid, though.
Title: Help Me Choose a Guitar...
Post by: DontTreadOnMe on January 05, 2011, 10:05:29 AM
Not saying that a solid wood guitar is not manageable or that it's difficult, just that they can be finicky.  Good/Better/Best is very relative in guitars.  If I'm sitting outside by a campfire on a cool night or out on a beach, my choice would be a laminate guitar every time, so for me that would be the best guitar.  

I can pick up either of my D12's any time of the day, any day of the week and they are in tune 95+% of the time, which makes them my choice for daily play.  My solid woods get played a few times a week as well but usually require a tuning. Love the sound, and not that tuning takes much effort, just like to grab a guitar and play.  

Title: Help Me Choose a Guitar...
Post by: Pining on January 06, 2011, 03:48:24 AM
THen you haven't got a Maton or Cole Clark, DTOM.
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Post by: DontTreadOnMe on January 06, 2011, 08:40:24 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Pining

THen you haven't got a Maton or Cole Clark, DTOM.



Nope, and the odds of me getting one are directly proportional to the odds for the lottery...  

Title: Help Me Choose a Guitar...
Post by: Ready3Buy on January 06, 2011, 11:17:41 PM
Ok, changed my mind, and final time as well... bye Washburn, hello Taylor... here's why...

In my original past the guitar I was referring to was the second one I've tried... the first WD10 I bought before xmas was fantastic... LOVED it...for three days... then the neck kinked right where it met the body... complete buzz from the 8th fret up.

Took it to another local store, George's, for a simple truss tweak, which they tried, no charge, and told me it's unrepairable (and didn't try to sell me another guitar...took it back to Sam Ash (45 min each way) and was told well you get what you pay for... which was an insult and I expressed as such and I took my business elsewhere... to George's, where I went today to order a WD10S... they said they had none but AHA!, mistake! they had two!... so I was psyched to buy another one! (I had no problem thinking the first one was just a one-off).

So I wanted to try it... guess what... neck kinked at the body... didn't even get it in my hands, the guy said it's going back. But guess what! Another one in stock!  Tuned it up... played it... BUT!.. not that close in sound to WD10 that kinked and buzzy above the 12th. Think I should buy it? Sorry... asked the guy what was up and he said Well, not sure what to say except that in my opinion the last batch wasn't as good as I remember. Ok, well good luck to them...I really like this Taylor 114CE and I'll be back tomorrow for that.

And that's that. Sorry folks but 0 for 3 is not a good first experience for me and Washburn. I thought that first WD10 was better than the 1962 Epiphone Texan I used to have but I've owned no other really good guitars. I hope you figure it out fast and I hope to see you another day.

Title: Help Me Choose a Guitar...
Post by: Pining on January 07, 2011, 04:17:17 AM
Sad to hear, B3B.
My D10s is what I paid for. A cheap but very serviceable guitar. I'm hearing NOTHING from Washburn. Try an Ayres!
Title: Help Me Choose a Guitar...
Post by: skip77 on January 12, 2011, 08:42:04 AM
i agree with dontread that all solids are more sensitive to temp and humidity. for me it becomes a nuiscance because i don't have a CTH room like some of the really serious guys here, i have to run around maintaining the guitars. if you only have one or two its no big deal but how many of us have only 2 guitars? right now i have 9 and even that single digit number becomes a problem i dont appreciate, having to constantly add water to devices. to be honest one of the best sounding guitars i ever owned and i owned 3 of them, was Alvarez RD20S. It has the solid spruce top and lam hog sides and back - full dreadnought, well made, under $200, huge sound - easier to maintain - hard to beat.
Title: Help Me Choose a Guitar...
Post by: YerDugliness on January 12, 2011, 02:48:25 PM
I'm with you, Skip!

I find myself looking for another laminate sides/back with solid top Washburn...had a great WD32S and gave it away last summer, now to my surprise ALL of my acoustic guitars seem to be all solid wood....and the least expensive/difficult to replace of them all is my WD32SW.  Naturally, I'm a bit reluctant to take it to the beach or near a campfire....so, the search begins!

Not wanting another dreadnought body style, though....have too many of those already.

Cheers from.....

Dugly [8D]

YerDugliness, Esq./Post No Bills
Guitar Playin' FOOL, retired & attempting to age disgracefully!!
Washburns: WD32SW, D61SW, and C124SW
Other fine acoustic guitars by Breedlove (custom shop Revival Series 000), Darren Hippner (#506), Takamini (2005 LTD), Epiphone (Masterbilt AJ500RC), and Yamaha (G231-II)

Title: Help Me Choose a Guitar...
Post by: Pining on January 12, 2011, 10:01:15 PM
The difference between a laminate and a solid is a step.
A step in quality and price.
Value is the result.
Laminate just don't compare although that is n't to say that you can't get a quality laminate. You just can't beat solid with laminate.
Title: Help Me Choose a Guitar...
Post by: Junior88 on January 13, 2011, 08:42:16 AM
quote:
Originally posted by YerDugliness

I'm with you, Skip!

I find myself looking for another laminate sides/back with solid top Washburn...had a great WD32S and gave it away last summer, now to my surprise ALL of my acoustic guitars seem to be all solid wood....and the least expensive/difficult to replace of them all is my WD32SW.  Naturally, I'm a bit reluctant to take it to the beach or near a campfire....so, the search begins!

Not wanting another dreadnought body style, though....have too many of those already.

Cheers from.....

Dugly [8D]

YerDugliness, Esq./Post No Bills
Guitar Playin' FOOL, retired & attempting to age disgracefully!!
Washburns: WD32SW, D61SW, and C124SW
Other fine acoustic guitars by Breedlove (custom shop Revival Series 000), Darren Hippner (#506), Takamini (2005 LTD), Epiphone (Masterbilt AJ500RC), and Yamaha (G231-II)




F10S Dug..
Title: Help Me Choose a Guitar...
Post by: YerDugliness on January 13, 2011, 11:48:58 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Junior88

F10S Dug..



Yep, I've given it some consideration.  I really like ash as a tonewood for the body of the guitar....great acoustic reinforcement!

I was looking at the lineup on the Washburn website....sorta like the WG066S...solid wood (CEDAR!!!) top for great left hand response, but I'm not really sold on mahogany as a wood for the body.  I prefer a cedar/rosewood combination, like my C124SW classical. I don't see that in the current lineup....

....nor do I see the F10S.  I might contact Jon at FM...he wasn't able to help me with a C124SW, but then there were only 24 of them ever received by Washburn, so that wasn't a surprise.  If there are no F10S models left, I might crater and consider a D10S or another WD32S...both are listed on the website (whether they are available or not is another issue altogether, much discussed elsewhere).  It would take a lot for me to crater and order another dread, though.  So many different models to explore, so few made by Washburn these days.

Anyone know anything about the comfort series?

http://www.washburn.com/acoustics/comfort-series/

It seems to be all laminate, and at $450 MSRP seems a bit expensive for all lam (even though it is a CE model), but there is a Grand Auditorium body style available.  Might have to consider something like that if I can't find anything else that suits my needs.  Craig's list here in the Houston area usually has quite a few Washburns in the musical instruments category, but mostly electrics (so, what else is new???? [xx(])....a lot of D10 models, but not so many D10S.  I guess the only reason I might consider a D10S is that both Shiner and Pappy have these and I am impressed with their playability (if not the body style or the spruce/mahogany sound characteristics). I mean, it is going to be a campfire guitar, after all.

I once bought an Epi AJ100 from Rocket during one of his CRUGE's...all lam, slope-shouldered, dread size, really good guitar for the price, but I gave it away to a friend's son who has great musical promise but didn't have a decent guitar.  I might need to revisit that....but there are MANY budget priced guits at the big-box stores, you just have to be willing to spend some time playing them so you know you get a good one.

Cheers from.....

Dugly [8D]

YerDugliness, Esq./Post No Bills
Guitar Playin' FOOL, retired & attempting to age disgracefully!!
Washburns: WD32SW, D61SW, and C124SW
Other fine acoustic guitars by Breedlove (custom shop Revival Series 000), Darren Hippner (#506), Takamini (2005 LTD), Epiphone (Masterbilt AJ500RC), and Yamaha (G231-II)