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Title: USA Acoustic wish list...
Post by: DontTreadOnMe on May 16, 2011, 03:10:43 PM

IF Washburn decides to offer USA made acoustics again, what would be on your 'Wish List'?  Woods, headstock and bridge style, finish, electronics, etc.
 

Title: USA Acoustic wish list...
Post by: evenkeel on May 16, 2011, 04:44:02 PM
Interesting post.

I've mentioned this before but it has always intriqued me why the slope shoulder dread market is so under represented.  Seems like Gibson owns this but every body has a square shoulder dread.

So I would at leat try a spruce/mahogany and spruce/rosewood slope shoulder dread.  All solid woods, natural and burst finish, 14 frets clear, but a short scale.  Cumberland headstock shape
Title: USA Acoustic wish list...
Post by: Pike on May 16, 2011, 08:46:25 PM
Good topic Greg. I'd like to see a nitro finished dreadnaught, solid rosewood back and sides, forward shifted scalloped bracing under an englemann top, with a small maple bridgeplate and a dovetail neck joint...
Title: USA Acoustic wish list...
Post by: Ripple on May 16, 2011, 09:16:04 PM
I agree with Pike and keep the bling minimal,By the way I got a slope alverez Yairi a while back they are out there.I find a lot of Bling distasteful.
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Post by: nogin007 on May 17, 2011, 07:11:18 AM
Everything Pike described, except in a smaller size, like a  Festival series, with a different cutaway.
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Post by: Noun0 on May 17, 2011, 08:59:46 AM
I agree with Pike too, Englemann/rosewood dread, and maybe a new Savannah ? (Slope shoulder/Koa)
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Post by: Junior88 on May 17, 2011, 09:05:53 AM
Pretty much just an all-solid wood version of my beloved F10S. Just keep the bling to a minimum.

This is just excessive: http://guitarinternational.com/2010/11/02/look-back-at-the-millionth-martin-guitar/
Title: USA Acoustic wish list...
Post by: evenkeel on May 17, 2011, 09:41:23 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Ripple

I agree with Pike and keep the bling minimal,By the way I got a slope alverez Yairi a while back they are out there.I find a lot of Bling distasteful.



I know other companies do slope shoulder dreads.  Recording King, Blueridge at the mass market level, Bourgeois at the upper end.  Just seems so under represented.  But given the response from the gang, probably the right thing to do.

FWIW I agree with the construction/finish options Pike mentioned.  Nitro, dovetail, bracing etc..
Title: USA Acoustic wish list...
Post by: Busterplays on May 17, 2011, 02:04:27 PM
Solid wood dread body with white bound neck, head, and body. High gloss thin Nitro finish, solid spruce top, choice of mahogany or redwood side/back. Bone nut and saddle, dovetail neck, good tuners 18:1 ratio with case. Optional electronics. MSRP $1650 street $1200. Look at Martins D16RGT street price 1250. Epi Masterbilt(not USA but lower pricepoint)??? Offer a better finish and tuners and it would be a winner.
Title: USA Acoustic wish list...
Post by: WB-Nick on May 17, 2011, 07:53:49 PM
quote:
Originally posted by evenkeel

Interesting post.

I've mentioned this before but it has always intriqued me why the slope shoulder dread market is so under represented.  Seems like Gibson owns this but every body has a square shoulder dread.

So I would at leat try a spruce/mahogany and spruce/rosewood slope shoulder dread.  All solid woods, natural and burst finish, 14 frets clear, but a short scale.  Cumberland headstock shape



the one i'm waiting on a quote for is slope shoulder, spruce/mahogany all solid with burst finish.
Title: USA Acoustic wish list...
Post by: WB-Nick on May 17, 2011, 07:54:57 PM
i'll keep all of this in mind as i'm working on the line up.
Title: USA Acoustic wish list...
Post by: Pike on May 17, 2011, 08:09:29 PM
quote:
the one i'm waiting on a quote for is slope shoulder, spruce/mahogany all solid with burst finish.
That sounds like a winner too Nick...
Title: USA Acoustic wish list...
Post by: THEE HAMMER on May 19, 2011, 01:30:36 AM
quote:
Originally posted by WB-Nick

i'll keep all of this in mind as i'm working on the line up.



Awesome. I just bought a USA d.55sw cherokee at auction and it is the finest acoustic I have ever laid hands on. If Washburn were to bring some USA acoustics back into production it's be great to have a

-Standard dreadnaught, solid woods, spruce top, rosewood back and sides, ebony board, tasteful inlays and an elegant headstock. Having one to compete with each level of the competition would be wise.

perhaps a Martin D-16/Gibson j-45 alternative for around 1200-1500, a D28/Hummingbird alternative at 1700-2000 and a D-45/Vos alternative at 2500-3000

having a slope shoulder dread, a jumbo j-200 style that doesn't look wacky, and a nice parlor model would be cool if you were going for a well rounded line.

I worked at a Washburn dealer until recently and we always got compliments on the D-10's and other import washburns, but when people came in looking for a Taylor/Martin/Gibson alternative we had to point them elsewhere.
There IS a HUGE acoustic market that loves new offerings, but I feel like they miss out on the washburn stuff and have been turned off at the fringe designs that have been available in the past few years. My first guitars were all washburns and my favorites still are. There are many out there who feel like I do and love the brand like family (hope that doesn't weird people out). If Washburn is interested in re-entering the fray i'm all for it, they Just need to take it seriously while still doing things slightly differently. I'd love to have some new Washburns to back up my Cherokee at bluegrass gigs.

Last thing, it'd be really interesting if you could get another up and coming luthier to do a special run like the Bourgeois guitars.
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Post by: THEE HAMMER on May 19, 2011, 01:38:39 AM
Also the perfect one in my book would be a standard Grand Concert style, Spruce Top semi gloss natural, rosewood back and sides, mahogany neck with a satin finish, flame maple binding, slotted headstock (taylor gc8/martin style), no electronics... but if they were mandatory make them as small as possible like the taylor system, 14 frets to body, ebony board, oval MOP inlays, butterfly ebony bridge with ebony bridge pins, abalone or herringbone rosette. That would be a tough sell for most people but the GC series always were best sellers.

Also, please bring the butterfly bridge back, people poing it out above everything else on my guitar and the feel and shape of it is just sensual. If only on the top of the line guitars it'd still be an awesome washburn touch.
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Post by: Busterplays on May 20, 2011, 08:03:55 AM
I agree that there is a market for such guitars. I remember playing a Washburn in a store back in the early 80's and thought to myself that it played as nice as a Guild or Martin. I dont remember the model but the impression stayed with me all these years. I went back to buy it and it was gone. I ended up with a Martin d35 that was very nice, but the Washburn of that time was right there.
Title: USA Acoustic wish list...
Post by: evenkeel on May 20, 2011, 11:27:03 AM
quote:
Originally posted by WB-Nick

quote:
Originally posted by evenkeel

Interesting post.

I've mentioned this before but it has always intriqued me why the slope shoulder dread market is so under represented.  Seems like Gibson owns this but every body has a square shoulder dread.

So I would at leat try a spruce/mahogany and spruce/rosewood slope shoulder dread.  All solid woods, natural and burst finish, 14 frets clear, but a short scale.  Cumberland headstock shape



the one i'm waiting on a quote for is slope shoulder, spruce/mahogany all solid with burst finish.



That's great Nick.  I'll be curious to see if it makes it to market.
Title: Re: USA Acoustic wish list...
Post by: Noun0 on March 06, 2012, 08:24:15 AM
After the 2003 series (D78, D80, D82, D84) for the 120 years, what would be the US made line for the 130 years ?
Title: Re: USA Acoustic wish list...
Post by: YerDugliness on March 06, 2012, 09:19:44 PM
I'll play the devil's advocate, here:

Anything EXCEPT a dread....it's all you find on the market, Washburn needs to incite interest in something that the public can't get from others.

As for tonewoods, obviously all solid-woods, but y'all know I'm a fan of cedar tops over spruce, so I'll ask for cedar.  My cedar/rosewood C124SWK has great tone, as does my Epiphone AJ500RC, so please consider that tonewood combo!

I'm with Keel re: slope shouldered guits....right now the one that speaks to me is an Epiphone Masterbilt product, called an "Advanced Jumbo" b/c of the location of the bracing relative to the position of the soundhole.  It is in no way a "jumbo" guitar, very similarly sized to a dreadnought, but it is a 12-fret free design---that enlarges the upper bouts and improves volume, although not as "large" as a jumbo it seems to have greater volume and much better projection than any dread I own.

Hate to say it, but considering the success of the older D10S series, I still assert that an all-solid wood version of the D10S, with the added features of the D10SDL, would be a door-buster for the retailers.

Cheers from.....
Title: Re: USA Acoustic wish list...
Post by: Pike on March 07, 2012, 12:42:45 AM
Quote
So I would at leat try a spruce/mahogany and spruce/rosewood slope shoulder dread.  All solid woods, natural and burst finish, 14 frets clear, but a short scale.  Cumberland headstock shape
I hear ya' Keel. Washburn did a nice job putting out this D56SW englemann/koa slope shoulder southern jumbo, forward shifted scalloped trilite bracing... something like it'd work.

(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c188/Pikeusa/P6230004.jpg)
Title: Re: USA Acoustic wish list...
Post by: evenkeel on March 07, 2012, 07:13:37 AM
I'm with Keel re: slope shouldered guits....right now the one that speaks to me is an Epiphone Masterbilt product, called an "Advanced Jumbo" b/c of the location of the bracing relative to the position of the soundhole.  It is in no way a "jumbo" guitar, very similarly sized to a dreadnought, but it is a 12-fret free design---that enlarges the upper bouts and improves volume, although not as "large" as a jumbo it seems to have greater volume and much better projection than any dread I own.

The 12 fret clear "AJ" traces it's heritage to the Roy Smeck Gibson Guitars of the late 30's and early 40's.  These guitar have gotten a boost lately as Gibson has done a Jackson Browne Signature guitar, based on Brownes collection of Smeck's.  The original Smeck guitars were set up for Hawaiian lap style playing.  Most of these old Smecks have been converted to "Spanish" style by changing the nut, adding metal frets and putting on an intonated bridge.

Like Dugly I've got a bit of GAS for a 12 fret, slope shoulder dread.  Not a lot of them out there and the companies that do offer them (Gibson, Santa Cruz, etc.) are at the high end of the price scale.

Pike, love the slope shoulder Washburn.  That is a spectacular looking slope shoulder dread.
Title: Re: USA Acoustic wish list...
Post by: Pike on March 07, 2012, 08:20:48 AM
MarkD has some of the 5000 series '30's Washburns. Very similar to the Smecks I think...
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Post by: ship of fools on March 07, 2012, 09:16:49 AM
Wow that is one very nice slope you have there Pike, is that from the mid 90's.ship
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Post by: Pike on March 07, 2012, 12:08:38 PM
yep, '95 Bourgeois built...

(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c188/Pikeusa/PC050021.jpg)
Title: Re: USA Acoustic wish list...
Post by: Pike on March 07, 2012, 12:12:39 PM
MarkD's answer to my Smeck style inquiry...

 There were not really any 12 fret Washburns like the
Gibson Roy Smeck style that I am aware of.  In the mid to late 30's Tonk
Bros - the owner of the Washburn name and wholesale distributor - had Regal
making most of the Washburn line - and Regal made a few 12 fret Hawaiian
models that are somewhat Smeck-like, but all that I am aware of were sold
under the Regal name. They were however, nearly identical bodies and
configurations to the same era Washburn model 5244 and 5246 slope dreads,
but not labeled as Washburns.
Title: Re: USA Acoustic wish list...
Post by: gregjones on March 07, 2012, 07:28:58 PM
Anything EXCEPT a dread....

Yeah. 

Well, not ANYTHING. ;)

000, 12 fret, 1 3/4 nut, slot head, bone nut and saddle with Grover or Waverly tuners.  Spruce and mahogany.  NO---cut a way, electronics*, distressing, or wierd inlays.

*I could live with a hidden Fishman Aura.
Title: Re: USA Acoustic wish list...
Post by: Pike on March 07, 2012, 10:29:51 PM
Here's a D34S 12 fret slot head spruce/mahogany. Had one, wasn't impressed.

(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c188/Pikeusa/WashburnD34S.gif)

(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c188/Pikeusa/Washburn1997-98-08-D34S.jpg)
Title: Re: USA Acoustic wish list...
Post by: gregjones on March 08, 2012, 10:56:02 PM
My 12 Fret D impressed me to no end.  I always wished it was a 000.  The only thing I couldn't do with it was splint up Cheryl's broke foot.

So I sold it to buy a cast.

Crap.

Title: Re: USA Acoustic wish list...
Post by: Pike on March 09, 2012, 02:31:50 AM
Cheryl's broken foot, ya, ouch Greg... good sale...
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Post by: wn50 d10s12 h1260 ej200 on March 09, 2012, 04:01:49 PM
Wish list!That's on par with asking for an opinion.Okay,let's pretend my wife lets me buy more instruments,and next year's tax return is about double of this year's(hey,you brought the w-word into it).Butterfly bridge,Cumberland headstock,14 fret clear,grand concert body,cream binding-neck and headstock included,diamond -shaped fret inlays(preferably wooden),Grover 14:1 gold coloured tuners,mahogany back and sides.Hold your hats,because now the best part-ADIRONDACK top,rock maple neck,ebony for the bridge and fretboard.Excuse me while I wipe the drool from my chin!Now,lightly fog the top with transparent amber nitro,clear the back,sides,and neck,headstock veneer to match the bridge.And Washburn owners get first dibs.If you make one with maple leaf fret inlays for the Canadian market,tell me where to sign up,and if you'll take my Avalanche in on trade!Wow!Now I'm spent!Peace,out,play safe!-Jamie.
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Post by: Noun0 on March 18, 2012, 05:27:57 AM
Some news from NAMM, a "Warren Haynes" Jumbo  :P

(http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/1064/nammwashburn0003.jpg)
Title: Re: USA Acoustic wish list...
Post by: ship of fools on March 18, 2012, 02:40:32 PM
Well if I could have a vote here on another US built they already build some parlor 12 freters ( granted not US made but really how many folks really paly parlors ) and they already covered Dreadnoughts so it comes down to a slope shoulder and something like a Mini Jumbo.
But more importantly I would love to be able to customize my own guitar with what I would like to see for woods and even the way its braced and the nut size would be advantages to be able to pick the size you want along with the type of tuners and I would also like to make sure the pick-ups are more of an option also ( ie mini's work just fine ) and to wedge or not to wedge would be a great option.
Something more along these lines Nick if you are seeing this, ( between the $3000.00 - $6000.00 ) with the Washburn W instead of the whole name on the headstock in Pearl.
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4/ship123/IMG_3077.jpg)
Oh and least I forget a nice 5 piece neck and non dovetailed for later neck resets