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Title: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: Tony Raven on October 06, 2015, 01:46:09 AM
Due to a few months of fortunate online shopping, I find myself with an assortment of Roland "13-pin" guitar gear. Two years ago, I'd bought a nice Switch Music guitar with factory GK hex pickup, & figured I should actually try some of the stuff.

However, the Switch keeps gaining in value, so I've grown a little leery of taking it outside the house. As I'd obtained a top-mount GK pickup in a deal, I went out looking for a guitar I could bolt it to without feeling too guilty about drilling three (small) holes.

My first thought, of course, was a used Lyon or Oscar Schmidt Idol -- generally decent guitars, & often gathering dust, so there have been deals.

A Guitar Center had a BT-2 mis-listed as an Idol, so I went back through the sites to check out BTs. To my surprise, a Music-Go-Round had a BT-3 listed at a mere $40, plus $40 s/h. It was basic black, but what the heck: it's intended mostly to drive a synth, right?

Aside from a couple of dings (back of neck, edge of fretboard) & no trussrod cover & two missing screws, it's practically perfect. Sure, it needs to have the nut slots cut a little, the trussrod could use a quarter-turn, the slugs are all neatly lined up rather than intonated... in other words, typical for nowadays.

Firstly, it's difficult to go wrong with
(1) spending less than $100
(2) on a Washburn electric
(3) that has Grover tuners.
(In fact, the entire BT series has Grovers.)

I can't find the thread, but somewhere around here I list all the triple-single Washburn electrics that've ever been released -- which is like 18 models, some of them quite rare. The BT-3 is one, & now sits next to another, my X-33.

I haven't yet given the pickups a thorough workout, so I won't comment on tone. Looking at 'em, though, I note an oddity. With Fender-type singles, it seems there's generally two choices for polepiece height: all the same, or "stagger." For some reason, lately all the staggers I've seen are in pairs, which seemed somewhat lazy. So, I enjoyed seeing that the BT-3 has all its polepieces nicely matched to the height of the string.

All in all, a nice solid basic guitar that competes very well with my Squier (Vintage Modified) Strat that cost me $165. The BT just feels more... dunno, compact, solid. And I'm a long-time fan of Grovers; many years of finding them reliable & responsive.

However, now I'm reluctant to drill holes in it. :o

More later. Any love out there for the Mavericks?
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: dannyj5150 on October 30, 2015, 12:11:52 PM
Love them too!
Just joined this forum this morning after becoming obsessed with them and starting to collect.   :)
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: Tony Raven on October 30, 2015, 07:45:36 PM
Welcome aboard! Yah, it certainly appears to be a GREAT model to accumulate: well-built, good Blue Book valuation, variety of pickup routs, big range of finishes, low demand keeping the asking prices down for almost all models.

The "bottom end" BT-2's SRP started at $333.90 (1997), then up $6 by 2000. The rule of thumb is that it likely sold for 60% of that, so $200 & change. About the same range as the Yamaha Pacifica or better Squier Affinity. And it looks like the BT-2 has a mahogany body -- with that scale length, it's a "sleeper" SG. :)

I see that the Floyd Rose trem isn't a guarantee of high value. The first year, various versions were sported by the BT-6, -10, & -20, with respective prices of $500, $800, & $1,500.

And be aware that the quilt-top models are actually a plastic film -- very much like Fender's "Foto-Flame" models -- so there's no actual veneer there, & chipping might not be fixable. Then again, it won't harm playability at all, so you might snag a bargain!

Anyway, I'm just stopping briefly to note an oddity. I've seen "Billy T"-branded models in two metalflakes, red & a sort of aqua. Now, the Billy T Series looks to've only existed in 1996, becoming Maverick Series for 1997 onward. Yet, metalflake colors only appeared in 1998 (BT-2, MFBL MFS, $50 extra; BT-6, MFB) & 1999 (BT-2 again). Is it possible that Washburn randomly used up older "BillyT" plates? or maybe these were specific to certain retailers? Anyone with info (or a more-educated guess) is welcome to jump in!
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: dannyj5150 on November 04, 2015, 05:32:19 PM
Thanks for the info. That's a bummer about the tops being a decal essentially.
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: Tony Raven on November 10, 2015, 12:40:40 AM
That's a bummer about the tops being a decal essentially.
The info comes from the archived Washburn price list, so I want to take it at face value. Then again, according to the 2001 catalogue
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The quilted top not only enhances the beauty of the BT4Q, it also enhances the tone. Alder gives depth and the maple provides definition. It's been a proven combination for Washburn and gives each BT4Q a unique sonic fingerprint.
which does NOT sound like they're discussing Mylar film!!
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FWIW: there's some old posts about how the early BT8 & BT10 were set-neck. Certainly something a collector might want to watch for.
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For the Mavericks, BlueBook Online is hinky.
http://bluebookofguitarvalues.com/Electric_Guitar_Values/Manufacturers/WASHBURN/Categories/ELECTRIC__MAVERICK_%28BT_AND_WM%29_SERIES?id=WASHBURN_ELECTRIC_MAVERICK_BT_WM_SERIES (http://bluebookofguitarvalues.com/Electric_Guitar_Values/Manufacturers/WASHBURN/Categories/ELECTRIC__MAVERICK_%28BT_AND_WM%29_SERIES?id=WASHBURN_ELECTRIC_MAVERICK_BT_WM_SERIES)

That doesn't look too terrible. However, when I went to VintageWashburn.com -- normally THE best single source for brand-specific info -- there's nothing there but the BlueBook Online... except that it's got MUCH more info about changes in color & design.
{That site is now dead.}
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When searching online, you'll need to check washburn billy AND washburn maverick AND washburn bt.
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Speaking of which. If you have $450 available & want a likely collectible, here's that BT-500, with in-line headstock & Jackson-era trussrod cover.
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Used/Washburn/Bt500-Solid-Body-Electric-Guitar.gc (http://www.guitarcenter.com/Used/Washburn/Bt500-Solid-Body-Electric-Guitar.gc)
Such a model is NOT mentioned anywhere.
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: Tony Raven on November 18, 2015, 09:16:58 PM
I happened to be pawing through eBay, & spotted these two Mavericks at extreme ends of the spectrum.

This appears to be a BT-4 in tobacco sunburst.
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The Buy-It-Now price is a mere $70 + s/h ($46.75 to here, which is reasonable). This includes a little Ibanez practice amp, which you can likelt sell fast on Craigslist for $20.

Meanwhile, ogle this one-off WM-200 (a.k.a. WMP) while you have the opportunity.
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Custom Shop USA, set neck... while $675 may seem stratospheric, they're willing to consider a serious offer for less. After all, final MSRP on the usual WM-200 was $1,499, & THOSE have a Blue Book value of $725+. However, if you want a little leverage, then a guitar of this level SHOULD have an original Washburn-branded hard case! ;)

Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: psp742 on November 20, 2015, 10:45:52 PM
good deal on the BT-4 tobacco burst..  I have same one but i upgraded the stock tremolo to Bladerunner and swapped the tuner from chrome to black and put Beatles Abbey Road inlay sticker.
(http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o720/Alaric89/Photobucket%20Desktop%20-%20Alaric%20Tins%20MacBook%20Pro/1997%20Washburn%20Maverick%20BT-4%20MiI%20SN%20I7114857/DSC_7045_zps53f07d25.jpg)

This is my BT-6, metal flake black..  i believe i paid about $150 including shipping but no trem arm so bought Washburn S600 tremolo with trem arm and locking nut and hex tools
(http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o720/Alaric89/Photobucket%20Desktop%20-%20Alaric%20Tins%20MacBook%20Pro/Washburn%20Maverick%20BT-6%20metal%20flake%20black%20MiK/DSC_7346_zpsgmmtlxvg.jpg)
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: Tony Raven on November 21, 2015, 12:11:19 AM
I like the hardware changes on the BT-4. It's MUCH prettier without the chrome.
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It kinda bums me out that this otherwise-pleasant BT-8 has been priced at a laughable $600.
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Okay, yeah, I'll accept that it's NOS, never been sold at retail, so maybe 98% condition... but the seller is either a blessed moron or a damned liar, claiming the axe was sent direct from Washburn -- real retailers buy from distributors. In any case, MSRP was like $750, so they paid $450 at absolute most, & have certainly been stupid/greedy to leave all that cash locked up since 1999!! Even with case, I'd have been hard-pressed to see myself offering $400, but that BT-10 pushes it lower.
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: mindbinge on November 21, 2015, 11:39:25 AM
Here's my BT 10...

I've upgraded everything that has anything to do with the electronics...and it's pretty killer now!

I put a Switchcraft toggle switch and output jack on it, EVH 500k pots, and a USA made set of new old stock Peavey Wolfgang pickups from the original run they made. I used heavily shielded wire that barely fit the cavity routing.

Also added two black metal dome knobs to it and an EVH D-Tuna.

Didn't need to replace the trem, never had any problems with it staying in tune....but, if i ever get the itch, I'll put a black Floyd and lock nut and black Grover Tuners on it to finish the black out lol.

All in all, this thing is a total beast...I love it.

Just thought I'd share.

(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk214/mindbinge/IMG_4039_zpstbeu7umt.jpg)

(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk214/mindbinge/IMG_4044_zpsn8pq7zck.jpg)

(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk214/mindbinge/IMG_4043_zpshanlg3jr.jpg)

(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk214/mindbinge/IMG_4042_zpsaymeeolc.jpg)

(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk214/mindbinge/IMG_4041_zpsbewbllkf.jpg)

(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk214/mindbinge/IMG_4040_zps11uba8z4.jpg)

Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: Tony Raven on November 22, 2015, 12:04:24 PM
Hey, welcome to the show!! I've already razzed you a bit on the other thread. 8)

I'm a noob & a cheapskate, having snagged my BT-3 a few months ago for a truly paltry sum. Expecting a "kick-around" axe, instead I got a guitar that I wish had been available ~1980 when I was trying to play for a living!!

While the BT-3 is a great all-rounder, it's nice to see another player who aims a little higher. :)

The BT/WM family was only around 1995-2002. Given the continued popularity of the Axis/Wolfgang shape, Washburn would be smart to drop the Gibsonish (emphasis "ISH!") "Idols" & push out some Mavericks -- heck, they already ownall the specs & could have 'em flowing from Red China in a few weeks.
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: Tony Raven on November 22, 2015, 12:10:49 PM
FWIW, just to pull the theme together a bit, here's a guy who recently bought a BT-8 only to find it was actually a misidentified WM --

http://forums.washburn.com/index.php/topic,24535.0.html (http://forums.washburn.com/index.php/topic,24535.0.html)
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As I said to a friend a few months back, "How far wrong could I go when the entire series has Grovers?" (I'm kinda a HUGE fan of Rotomatics, even the "old fashion" 12:1.)
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: psp742 on November 22, 2015, 08:11:12 PM
Tony,

I was exchanging post with the OP about his WM100 (if i'm not mistaken, which was labeled as a BT-8) he got a pretty good deal because Guitar Center made a mistake listing the guitar.

I saw a BT-8 selling for less than $180 on CL.

mindbinge, that is one BAD LOOKING!!! BT-10, really tight purple flame.. It's made in Korea, with Takeuchi Floyd Rose (made in Japan Licensed Floyd Rose - very good quality)

my BT-6 is made in Indonesia by Samick, the trem claw screws were drilled cock-eyed, and there were extra hole in body cavity by the middle pickup, i repaired all the issues and replaced the electronics with Korean made 5-way switch, Japanese B500k Linear push-pull pot, MightyMite Bluebuckers bridge and neck humbuckers (kept the original middle pickup), installed Super-vee Maglok trem stabilizer, GeetarGizmos Tremolo Spring Noise Silencer (don't really need it but i want to), had Jescar Stainless Steel frets installed..

This is my only Floyd Rose equiped guitar, it's a pain to change strings (so i got shredneck trem stop to prevent the bridge from going down). It is set to floating and keeps in tune whether you dive bomb, do put up or do bends.  If i sell her that is if i do, i doubt I will ever recoup what I invested in her.. I could have gone SD JB + Jazz neck but it would make it similar to my other guitar.
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: Tony Raven on December 08, 2015, 01:35:22 AM
I'm eyeballing a BT-6 right now, so I really appreciate the heads-up about potential quality issues.
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There's some weird discrepencies amongst the Mavericks. Like, right now on eBay, there's what certainly LOOKS like a BT-2, but wearing a BT-4 badge. ???

The badges remain an oddity, & sometimes looks totally random. Besides the "BT-x" gravure, I've seen a "BillyT," afew blank blacks, & a swirly pearloid (unengraved).
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And NOT helping matters is info such as found in the official online archives of Washburn itself. :o For instance, the pricelist entries for the BT-3 (1997-1998) says it's got "WB 200 SERIES HUMBUCKERS" which differs with their catalogues (let alone reailty).
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Remember the eBay seller I said was sorta over-hyping their red BT-8? They're also trying to max a WM-100 ($1,275), which is fine if slightly delusional -- I'd put value at more like $800 max. But they also expect $262 for a BT-4; given the lack of demand, that seems about $100 optimistic, even with factory case.
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: psp742 on December 08, 2015, 09:51:56 PM
As you probably know The Billy T line was the predecessor to the Maverick..  I was upset I got outbid on a Billy T in gold sparkle for just $130 + shipping  :(  This started my interest in the Maverick line...  Billy T are definitely Korean, I believe some of the higher end Maverick's are still made in Korea.  In truth I don't know if my BT6 was Korean or Indonesian, but upon closer inspection of the craftmanship (or little touches of it) I mean how can you drill the trem claw screws cock-eyed, it even protruded into the neck humbucker cavity (i filled the cavity hole with Elmer Wood Glue Max and it is harder than the Mahogany wood / painted over the repair area / filled the trem screw holes and after it dried / redrill with long drill bit)  There is nothing wrong with it now.

There is a BT4 tobacco sunburst with small Ibanez amp for $70 + shipping.. it is an awesome deal.. - http://www.ebay.com/itm/272045833829?_trksid=p2060353.m2763.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

I know the BT-10 is far superior in quality to the BT6, but the BT6 has it's advantage, once you upgrade the components, HSH gives you more tonal options, since I also coil split the humbuckers, I get even more variety. the key is having an actual single coil pickup.  if and when I need it.

Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: Tony Raven on December 09, 2015, 12:35:55 AM
There is a BT4 tobacco sunburst with small Ibanez amp for $70 + shipping.. it is an awesome deal.
Yah, I spotted that as well. Though I really don't NEED another h-s-s, it'd be nice to play for a while.
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HSH gives you more tonal options
Until a year ago, I thought that h-s-h was either an artifact or an affectation. Then I saw a Guthire Govan DVD where he deftly used that single-coil to get tones that would've been difficult with a coil-tapped 'bucker -- not that I'll live long enough to be half so good, but it's enjoyable to learn stuff at my age. 8)

My only h-s-h guitar is an Aria 714-DLX that's just so beautiful I hardly dare uncase it, much less think about rewiring. But a BT-6, well...
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: Tony Raven on December 09, 2015, 06:32:31 PM
I spotted another Maverick oddity -- what sure looks like a black BT-2 to me... except the trussrod cover plate does actually read SB100. If I hadn't just bludgeoned my Cool Stuff budget, that $90 pricetag would make me want to get a closer look...
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After comparing the pricelists to the available catalogues, I'd be willing to wager on this:
As far as I can determine, the BT-2Q face is a film (like Fender Japan's Foto-Flame), but the BT-4Q is actually a layer of maple.

Okay, so I don't yet know whether it's a veneer or an actual cap, but at least it's likely actual refinishable WOOD.
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: Tony Raven on December 10, 2015, 05:21:29 PM
By the end of the year, I'll have what I hope is the definitive listing of BT guitars, maybe including the WM Mavs as well.

However, I'm momentarily obsessed with the BT-9. I enjoy "anomalous" guitars, the ones that didn't fit neatly into their family. Hence, I've got a BT-3 (every other model having a humbucker or two). The BT-9, of course, is one of the few Washburns with a maple fretboard, so the alder body is (IMO) generous icing.

But just TRY to find a photo, much less one for sale...!! >:( Thus far, two in Russia, one in Italy, & one that may be in Missouri. Anyway, let's see if I can link any of 'em up.

(http://www.jollymusicstore.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/washburn-bt9shop.jpg)

(http://www.shoppok.com/springfield/ads/images/55/fWashburn_BT9_Maverick_Electric_Guitar__1_5602c00ce5c1d.jpg)

(http://static.musicforums.ru/agora/forums/mfor/guitarbuysell/notes/368824.1.jpg)

Well... if anybody spots one -- & the asking price isn't totally insane -- be CERTAIN to alert me, please? :-*
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: dannyj5150 on December 10, 2015, 06:23:24 PM
Cool Tony. I'm always looking for anything Mav/BT/WM related so I'll let you know.
Working on my collection as well.  :)
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: psp742 on December 10, 2015, 08:02:13 PM
i will help keep an eye out as well..  :)
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: dannyj5150 on December 11, 2015, 04:51:14 PM
Do I have to be a member here for a certain amount of posts or time before I can post a photo? Not sure how to upload it when I click the  "insert image" icon here....
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: Tony Raven on December 11, 2015, 06:01:26 PM
Thissite does not actually accept upload. You'd have to place the photo somewhere online, then link to it with the button or the [ img ] tag. Many people use free online "image hosting" services (Photobucket, Shutterfly, etc); I have a website to place my eBay photos.
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I intended to set aside more Great Maverick Mysteries until next week... & then the UPS guy shows up.

At my side is a 1998 BT-6. The year's pricelist colors are MFB GBL TWR, & I'll bet there's few people who could decode THAT. Okay, Transparent Wine Red came to me after a moment, then Metalflake Black showed up later.

My new beastie has solved the problem: bits of silver glitter scattered stingily in clearcoat over black... AHA!!! :o Glitter Black.

...not the prettiest finish, but it's a break from Basic Black. ::) Then again, the neck clearcoat has gone to a nice yellow-brown. And it's the first Rose I've owned in almost 30 years. ;) It's still got the Inspection sticker (albeit faded) on the heel plate.

Hmm. Previous owner played mostly on the G string, but also ground Fret 1 a bit bending the A & D -- what ARE they teaching metalheads nowadays??? All in all, a level/crown will restore almost all the wear.

For fellow fanatics: no engraving on the trussrod cover. The seller was able to ID it by another sticker at the neck heel.
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: Tony Raven on December 11, 2015, 06:17:30 PM
The previous nimrod clearly busted the B, & replaced it with a handy G. Once I figured that out, I was able to proceed.

While I'm not much of a wang-bar enthusiast, this Rose rig has already caught my attention. My ear says all that metal is adding some lovely depth to the guitar's unplugged tone. Once I get the action/intonation a bit closer to reality, it deserves a fresh ste of strings, the we shall see how it all works.

The biggest Fail thus far is the cavity cover. Precision-cut, but it looks like a piece of divider sheet from a cheap three-ring binder. This axe retailed at $600 -- would some pickguard sheet have broken the budget, Washburn??
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: psp742 on December 11, 2015, 09:43:03 PM
Tony, you got a BT6, nice!  You could have asked me..  My BT6 is metal flake black..  It had a few paint chips which did not affect wood, I used Dupli-Color black car paint (with clear coat) and some silver flake (from Walmart for art projects) and people can't tell I repaired it too.

How much  you have to dish out to acquire it, if you don't mind me asking..   I believe I paipaid $125 plus shipping.   The most expensive thing I did is having Jescar SS frets installed, it cost way more than the guitar itself and the humbuckers and electronic upgrade included, but it is well worth it.. Bends is so smooth it plays like butter much better than any guitar I own.  Well maybe not entirely true since the Idol WI64 also got the Jescar SS frets.  So two of my guitars are nice.
Title: some thoughts on value & the BT family
Post by: Tony Raven on December 12, 2015, 12:32:43 PM
Fair certain it was like $125 + s/h.

Okay, now that I look at it in sunlight (or what passes for same at this time of year), doesn't it look less like black than a deep navy/midnight blue...? Wow, I'm losting marbles fast :o -- Washburn uses -BL for blue, right...?? (At work, when we refer to color-coding of wires, I insist upon BL=blue & BK=black so as to avoid snafus.)

Yep, definitely an under-valued series. Per Blue Book, this BT-6 ought to carry a value of $250-$300 even with a few chips at the edges. :o By that metric, at ~50% we paid about what a Big Box store SHOULD be offering.
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A rule-of-thumb once stated by Zach Fjestad or someone equally authoritative: very few guitars will EVER be worth half their final Suggested Retail Price. Not hard-&-fast, of course, because inflation alone will eventually catch up, even if it takes a century, but generally right.

It's like that old truism about buying a new car: it literally loses half its value before the ink is dry on the contract. It might be YOUR "new baby," but it's still dirt-common (which depresses value) so some dealers will have a surplus (which depresses value) until they decide to dump 'em out at cost (which depresses value), where nowadays they're snapped up by flippers who think they're gonna make a killing on Craigslist which usually doesn't last long then the people who actually want 'em start playing hardball with Best Offers (which depresses value).

Then there's condition: a new guitar, barely touched since the factory, never put out on display, is 100%; as soon as you put down cash, it drops to 98%; play it a few times, or send in the warranty card, & it's 95%.

And despite the glut of online info, many used-gear sellers don't have someone on staff who knows how to research properly. As a result, a glut of one model can drag down the price of siblings that are rarer &/or of higher quality.

If you shop around (online or Big Box IRL), you know that the BT/Maverick contingent is dominated by "clown paint" BT-2. Then there's people -- like us 8) -- who snatch away the other models, increasing the BT-2 dominance, & further depressing prices, until one day word gets out that there's much cooler versions to be had, then rising prices will buoy demand for the BT-2. So, if you spot a cheeeep 2 in great shape, & you've got some storage space... ;) Other colors are difficult to spot, btw.

Right this moment, there's a BT-4Q on eBay demanding $275 (+$35). There's 19 watchers, & most are probably 4Q owners waiting for this to establish a tacit market value so that THEY can sell -- if they were buying, there's a 4Q that's been up for three days, & unable to get an opening $200 (+$40) bid, & has ZERO watchers. (No 4Q has sold on eBay in the past two months.) This is futile, because five "clown paint" BT-2 have sold for $95-$175 (including s/h), a bizarre range that proves a highly uncertain market.

...but if someone wanted to (say) make a fast few bucks, Guitar Center Online has an $80 BT-2CS & a $100 BT-4Q...
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Ask any guitar nut to rattle off the Top Ten of axe brands they covet, & few will mention Washburn even as an afterthought. I'm therefore impressed when I see a Washie caught in the middle of some fierce online bidding war, & finally selling for double+ its SRP. :o

For the moment, if you see a BT you like on eBay, it's probably got a Best Offer button. Most of the recent BTs sell on Best Offer. This is free: why not chop off 30% & wave cash? Trim even more if it's been around awhile &/or there's no watchers.

(Same goes for Reverb.com; there, if there's been a bunch of offers, my experience is they've probably been close to 50%. I've surprised myself recently by offering 70% late at night, & getting an acceptance in minutes, likely because the seller was so tired of dealing with penny-pinchers! There's a 4Q asking $190 + $60, but willing to entertain offers, & it's been up for three months.
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Because it doesn't deserve its own post: someone's selling what sure looks like a BT-9 pickplate for a mere $20, & this MIGHT be spiffy to customize a BT-4/-6 with no need for routing.
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Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: Tony Raven on December 19, 2015, 12:52:56 PM
SPOTTED: Some guy made a fierce-looking little BT-3, selling it for $175 max.

That must be what the Cherry Sunburst looks like, so it's a 1998. I doubt the seller a little, though, because he seems to be taking credit for using 12:1 chrome non-locking Grovers to replace the stock... umm... 12:1 chrome non-locking Grovers. ??? And the B-string tuner looks crooked (to me).

Still, a good axe, maybe$100 in new hardware.
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: psp742 on December 20, 2015, 04:09:57 AM
Additional single pickup trim is just aesthetics, and the tuner drilled crooked makes you think what else is wrong.
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: Tony Raven on December 20, 2015, 10:10:47 PM
Doesn't look like the plates are actually screwed down, so they should come off easily enough.

The pickups are certainly new, but I wish the seller had mentioned which model of Dragonfire. And the knobs look nice, a bit like on my Vox Panther bass & somewhat like the black set I want for my "BBR" Cort.

If the bridge assembly is improved, then it's an all-round win. IME, though, Washburn "classic" trems have been pretty good bar the near-useless tone block, so replacing the whole assembly with some shiny-new generic seems pointless. Now, something Wilkinson WOULD have been a step up.

It's the first I've seen in CS. About half have been black, there was a spate of reds, & a few ivory have appeared recently. Now, if someone can tell me what color "TIBL" translates to, so I can add that to my list.
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Can anyone point to official info on a BT-500? Clearly a BillyT shape, but 6x1 headstock.
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: Tony Raven on December 22, 2015, 11:14:15 AM
Stopping by to note the ONLY Maverick I've seen that sports a skunk-stripe neck. :o

Sadly, the link to the image is now dead.  :(
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: Tony Raven on December 24, 2015, 11:05:25 AM
Aha -- another mystery solved... TIBL = Tiffany Blue.

No faint idea what it looks like. ???

Anyhow, TIBL was only used on the 1998 BT-2 & BT-3. The BT-2 was also available in Caribbean Blue (1998-1999), which really doesn't help the situation.

As you can tell, the Maverick list is about up to beta release. Now, if someone could find/assemble a virtual "color card" of all these goshdarn finishes!! In 1996-2000, the BT/WM family had no less than 29 finishes -- possibly 30 if MC remains unique. ("Metallic Copper"?? Only on the 2000 BT-4.) Even Squier would be hard-pressed to match that.
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Two interesting finds from GC Online, at either end (or thereabouts) of the value range. At the top: WM100, $490.

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Used/Washburn/WM100-IDOL-USA-Solid-Body-Electric-Guitar.gc (http://www.guitarcenter.com/Used/Washburn/WM100-IDOL-USA-Solid-Body-Electric-Guitar.gc)

Based on the official pricelist, I have to say that I'm disappointed. Suppoed to be a quilt-maple top, with "fine-tune stoptail" & "deluxe locking nut," none of which I see. One of the pickups isn't clearly branded, so I question whether it's the original Duncan. Maybe it's a transitional 1998-1999 WM100/WM Studio. Anyway, though I'll admire, I think it's $100 too much, but YMMV.

At the other extreme is one that ANY Maverick fan should snag -- except for me because I just bought one 8) -- a bright red BT-4, a mere $60 + s/h, so <$100 to the Lower 48.

http://www.guitarcenter.com/product-detail-page?productId=site5111718345 (http://www.guitarcenter.com/product-detail-page?productId=site5111718345)

What's interesting is that unless this is the "MC" finish (see above), the color doesn't exist in the pricelists -- the quilties were the only red tones.
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: Tony Raven on December 24, 2015, 12:26:51 PM
Supposed to be a quilt-maple top, with "fine-tune stoptail" & "deluxe locking nut," none of which I see. One of the pickups isn't clearly branded, so I question whether it's the original Duncan.
More like so (though also lacking the lock-nut) --

{dead link removed}
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: Tony Raven on January 23, 2016, 11:42:03 AM
Okay, activity has continued to decline here. It's happening at most of the gear sites I read. I figure that people want to spectate or snag data, but ever-few want to put any WORK into the Net (without a billion-dollar funding round for their killer app).

Clearly, though, there's demand. When I started looking into the Mavericks three years ago, they were all over the place, & often cheap. Looks like word's got out (finally) that they're good guitars.

Some potential collectibility here, too, & not just high-number BTs. Today, I spotted a green BT-2, an ivory flake BT-5, & a red BT-3 badged only "Billy T" (changed to "Maverick" for 1997 catalogue, no BT-3 in 1996).

Here's the big rarity thus far: a "Billy T," clearly a BT-3 style (the only Mav model with a pickplate) but h-s-s (a 623, fwiw)... but a maple fretboard!! (I'd call it an outright BT-9, but didn't they have a pearloid pickplate?  ???)

(http://www.warningguitars.com/store/images/0016/01.JPG)

Well, in any case, a pretty axe.
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: Tony Raven on January 23, 2016, 11:52:41 AM
Pulling together a little info on the rumoured BT-500, which as it turns out actually DID exist. Per a 2012 thread here, Customer Service said:
Quote
It was a special run we did in late 2009, affectionately called the "boneyard" series.  It was also listed as the "2010 Underground" series.  List price was $1,499.90.

The model technically is a BT500MVWH

It was essentially us constructing a variety of US custom shop guitars utilize what amounts to the remaining stock on parts and bodies we had accumulated over the previous few years.  The company was sold in 2010 and this series was done to liquidate some parts and bodies we had left, while still providing a superior instrument constructed in the US custom shop from top quality materials.

Neck Pickup: Seymour Duncan ST5S5N
Brtidge pickup: Seymour Duncan JB
A year ago, this one sold for $450 + $50.
(https://reverb-res.cloudinary.com/image/upload/s--7YwkIY1N--/a_exif,c_limit,f_auto,fl_progressive,h_620,q_75,w_620/v1425914507/ukkfhbq3zxhqlgjcniuz.jpg)
There's at least two more floating around, & two in black. I passed up a white at GuitarCenter.com last month.
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: Tony Raven on January 23, 2016, 12:27:53 PM
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: dannyj5150 on January 27, 2016, 07:03:05 PM
Well I found a BT-9 and now only need a 5 to have my collection consisting of:
BT: 2,3,4,5,6,8,9,10 and WM 100 and 200.
Decided against the BT 20 but I suppose if I run across a cheap one I'll snatch it.  ;)
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: dannyj5150 on January 27, 2016, 07:05:14 PM
BTW Tony-

Are you on the FB Washburn page that was just started not too long ago?
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: Tony Raven on January 27, 2016, 08:20:58 PM
Nope -- not yet on Facebook, & the only Washburn page I know of is the company's. ??? But I'm willing to check it out.
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: Tony Raven on February 15, 2016, 01:59:37 PM
See what happens when I resolve to stick to my budget??  >:( A red BT-8 in 90%+ condition --

(https://reverb-res.cloudinary.com/image/upload/s--_ZvDDS63--/a_exif/v1455251597/etwugkvucuk2abyavqyf.jpg)

https://reverb.com/item/1683630-washburn-bt8-red-maple (https://reverb.com/item/1683630-washburn-bt8-red-maple)

Asking $215 + reasonable s/h ($33 to me)... but willing to entertain offers of less. :o
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: Tony Raven on February 29, 2016, 11:27:52 PM
More mutants sighted. :o

One of the few BT-9 I've seen on the market -- the only maple-fretboard model. This one sold for $420 -- with MSRP $699, that's an amazing valuation even if the guitar's in pristine condition.
(https://reverb-res.cloudinary.com/image/upload/s--FOx5KQ3M--/a_exif,c_limit,f_auto,fl_progressive,h_620,q_75,w_620/v1427155047/fbi041k6fpdbmjatlmk6.jpg)

At first glance, this one's just another BT-3.
(http://www.musicgoround.com/ProductImages/0767578_0.jpeg?w=550&h=550&mode=crop)
Then you notice the headstock.
(http://www.musicgoround.com/ProductImages/0767583_0.jpeg?w=550&h=550&mode=crop)
(http://www.musicgoround.com/ProductImages/0767580_0.jpeg?w=550&h=550&mode=crop)
I'm especially curious, because the "Billy T" part was retired after 1996, the BT-3 first appeared 1997, & how the heck did the Bantam series get mixed up in all this? :o
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: Tony Raven on March 25, 2016, 05:31:51 PM
Last week (as detailed elsewhere), I received a JB-80 "Jennifer Batten."

It took a couple of days to sink in, but I'd now contend that the three JB models are part of the Maverick line, halfway between the BT & the WM.
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: Tony Raven on May 08, 2016, 11:24:51 AM
If only for the sake of completeness...

Here's a Lyon version of the BT-2, right down to the offset dots.

http://www.shopgoodwill.com/auctions/Lyon-by-Washburn-Electric-Guitar-for-Parts-29713559.html (http://www.shopgoodwill.com/auctions/Lyon-by-Washburn-Electric-Guitar-for-Parts-29713559.html)

With 5.5 days to go, it's up to $25 plus $41 s/h -- the fullsize hard case is a definite sweetener.

Goodwill.com is a hoot. Some truly rare guitars show up, cleared out of Grandma's attic all across the nation, but often fetching prices 50% higher than what they'd get on eBay. Right now, there's a BT-2Q up to $45 + $25, 4.5 days to go; I expect it to get $100+, based on a black WI-64 that just topped $150 + $15.
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: bigcity2 on May 28, 2016, 05:07:16 AM
I just bought a BT-3 that was made in Indonesia.  The body is noticeably smaller than the BT-4....(about 96% the size of a BT-4)  Anyone know if the size difference is common to all BT-3s or just the Indonesia built ones?
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: Tony Raven on June 19, 2016, 01:07:26 PM
I've found nothing definitive on the body-size issue. You could ask Customer Service, or maybe do a poll of the BT fans here & collect measurement & serial number data -- me, I'm too lazy.  ;)
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A little shopping before chores...

At GuitarCenter.com, three Mavs & a Billy, NONE tagged as BT -- shop wisely, y'all -- in the $85-$100 range. :o

For you hardcores, the fourth is what I can only guess to be a one-knob BT-5: http://www.guitarcenter.com/Used/Washburn/Billy-T-Solid-Body-Electric-Guitar-112122545.gc (http://www.guitarcenter.com/Used/Washburn/Billy-T-Solid-Body-Electric-Guitar-112122545.gc) Same model, different site --
(https://reverb-res.cloudinary.com/image/upload/s--iIIdK7eP--/a_exif/v1465092974/yv4ihflevlpniv0c97xa.jpg)

Over at MusicGoRound.com, a turquoise flake BT-5, $150 + $50. They're also flogging a blue BT-2 at a goofy $130+$50, & are clueless enough to trumpet this as a "Price Reduction."

A few Mavs at Reverb. Another turquoise, $200 + $25 OBO. The BT-3 was only offered 1997-1998, & the contagious CSB just '98, so I'm inclined to forgive the seller for asking $175 (OBO) + $55. Is he correct about the "maple body" bit, or just talking about the top? And is that a veneer or film?

Though $120+$36 is a little high for a BT-2, another seller's probably tiring of it hanging around so make an offer -- especially if that case is part of the deal. He can be forgiven for saying the guitar's 2005 or newer. :o

Over on eBay, not much but a decent-looking BT-2Q in need of TLC, & some "wtf?" tuners too, $100 delivered.
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Per an older discussion, the Cherry Sunburst slapped onto so many BT-2 can vary wildly. I could probably start a gallery of the whole eye-killing spectrum, but here's two that'll give an idea.

(http://www.musicgoround.com/ProductImages/0879280_0.jpeg?w=535&h=535&mode=crop)

(http://www.musicgoround.com/ProductImages/0884130_0.jpeg?w=535&h=535&mode=crop)
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: Tony Raven on June 19, 2016, 01:14:35 PM
FWIW, the JB models really do look to fit between BT & WM.

(http://images.equipboard.com/uploads/item/image/29044/washburn-jb100-electric-guitar-xl.jpg?v=1463171063)
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: Tony Raven on August 16, 2016, 11:52:27 PM
I spotted a red "Billy T" BT-3. While maybe these early versions will have an enhanced collectibility valuation, there's one significant lack --
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/sgwproductimages/images/47/8-12-2016/8228199128524ht.jpg)

no Grovers.  :'(
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: Tony Raven on October 26, 2016, 10:28:34 PM
Currently available, $220 delivered, with OHSC. Sure looks like an early BT-10 to me but I'm open to suggestions.

(http://www.musicgoround.com/ProductImages/1164491_0.jpeg?w=535&h=535&mode=crop)

http://www.musicgoround.com/p/612964/used-washburn-billy-t-electric-guitar-purple (http://www.musicgoround.com/p/612964/used-washburn-billy-t-electric-guitar-purple)
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: Tony Raven on November 10, 2016, 10:15:18 PM
The reason that I'm confused -- this one had caught my eye earlier:

(https://reverb-res.cloudinary.com/image/upload/s--9OPV_4jG--/a_exif,c_limit,e_unsharp_mask:80,f_auto,fl_progressive,g_south,h_620,q_90,w_620/v1477199316/izmk2iijfti9zwoxalvx.jpg)

Note the two knobs, & switch placement. Going through the Washburn pricelists, I noted that the 1996 version -- the last year as the "Billy T" line before becoming "Maverick" -- had only a single Vol knob, but this notation is lacking thereafter. FWIW, the only model to have the 621/623 pickup set was the BT-10.

(And I reiterate that this might be the only Washie line to ever have had three names: Bantam, Billy T, Maverick -- more if you add in the WM & JB as I've argued. 8))
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: psp742 on November 19, 2016, 09:41:08 AM
Maverick BT has a nice offset shape that is quite comfy.. some other brands have almost the same outline. EV and EB brand comes close.
Because I have upgraded my BT6, I guess it is more than a capable versatile shredder.
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: Tony Raven on November 29, 2016, 02:53:16 AM
Two presently on MGR, kinda Beast & Beauty.

(http://www.musicgoround.com/ProductImages/1205392_0.jpeg?w=535&h=535&mode=crop)(http://www.musicgoround.com/ProductImages/1205380_0.jpeg?w=535&h=535&mode=crop)

(http://www.musicgoround.com/ProductImages/1192048_0.jpeg?w=535&h=535&mode=crop)

As they do, time-to-time, MGR has allowed the stupidest coders on staff to tweak the search protocols. For instance, you'd get ZERO hits if you search for Washburn HB or Washburn 35 or even Washburn HB-35... yet it happily pulls up a hit for Washburn HB35.

::)

I mention this here because BT3 & BT-3 will get you different results, & nothing at all for BT.

Happy hunting...  ???
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: Tony Raven on November 29, 2016, 03:22:08 AM
Dude's asking $1,000, & he has no first clue what the model number is... ::)

(https://reverb-res.cloudinary.com/image/upload/s--UtYTeSYN--/a_exif,c_limit,e_unsharp_mask:80,f_auto,fl_progressive,g_south,h_620,q_90,w_620/v1480119772/ohjnp7cgwdt6wxse23rk.jpg)

This is a bit more in my range, at $275... but my budget is zeroed for a month or three. Fortunately, the vinyl decal is easily removed, but maybe you dig Sammy more than me. ;)

(https://reverb-res.cloudinary.com/image/upload/s--0c5ByNzn--/a_exif,c_limit,e_unsharp_mask:80,f_auto,fl_progressive,g_south,h_620,q_90,w_620/v1480190218/veqeeiznhcwcpmj9irh4.jpg)
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: Tony Raven on February 20, 2017, 02:19:31 PM
Another take on the Washburn serial numbering system --
{dead link removed}

Though fully eight digits, it's on a BT-2, so 1996-2000. If the serial number has any date validity whatever, the guitar is 1998, a one-digit year code.
________________

I spotted this decal on a BT-4Q-LH --

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/JWoAAOSw4GVYIn33/s-l1600.jpg)

This, of course, messes up some of my theorizing. >:( I'd assumed that the guitars went from being "Billy T" to VERY briefly "Bantam"** until fetching up as "Maverick."

The model (the only lefty in the series) doesn't appear until the 1998 pricelist, while "Maverick" was applied fully a year earlier, so I'm puzzled.
________________

** -- intending to repurpose the "BT" prefix, but I think Grover Jackson balked as the name was already in play for the XB basses which had his name on every headstock. As a further guess, Jackson may have said "pay me" for the implied association, & Washburn moved along.
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: Tony Raven on February 25, 2017, 04:49:53 PM
For reference purposes...

The Peavey "Wolfgang"
(http://www.rockstarsguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Eddie-Van-Halen%E2%80%99s-Peavey-Wolfgang-prototype-strings1.jpg)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d1/Peavey_EVH_Wolfgang_Custom%2C_two_models.jpg)

The EVH (Fender) "Wolfgang Special"
(https://www.premierguitar.com/Stream/StreamImage.aspx?Image_ID=A856B6B7-6B2B-48EB-8E3B-8AC2EA497002&Image_Type=image)

The OLP "Axis"
(http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/smithtone/images/olpmm1.jpg)

The Ernie Ball/Music Man "Axis" & possibly other names
(http://www.richiecastellano.com/stage/guitars.jpg)
#3 is a Richie Castellano Axis, #4 an Axis, & #5 an Eddie Van Halen.

The Washburn "BT-10"
(https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/uploads/post-1340-1176280116.jpg)
(http://medias.audiofanzine.com/images/normal/washburn-bt10-370559.jpg)

Greatest difference appears to be hang-point &/or horn length.
Peavey: fret 13
EVH: fret 13
OLP: fret 14.5
EBMM: fret 14
Washburn: fret 12
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: Rushbo on February 26, 2017, 12:26:37 PM
Hi all,

Be nice and help out a newbie from the UK, please...

I picked up a rather poorly BT9 recently - apparently it had been used in a video for a Metal band where unspeakable atrocities were committed unto it. It had also had a coat of rattle can white paint applied to it. That came off without too much of a struggle and I was left with a decent guitar. It needed a new volume pot and a little tweak of the wiring and it's sounding good. It's just lacking a couple of things...a tip for the pup selector (30 seconds on eBay should sort that out...) and a whammy/tremelo bar/arm. Now that's proving harder to find...It's the fulcrum type of trem fitting. It doesn't necessarily have to be a Washburn part, I just want one that works - any thoughts or places I can look to find one please folks?
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: Tony Raven on February 27, 2017, 08:28:23 PM
Nice catch!! Washburn has not made many maple-fretboard models in the past 40 years. If I were to go insane on the "EVH" thing, I'd considered swapping necks between a BT-10 & BT-9.

As it happens, I have a BT-3 within reach, & the vibrato arm I got on a BT-6 -- sure enough, it matches up just fine. I'm going to hazard a guess that your BT-9 would use the same size as well.

While I don't have any measuring devices handy, this arm is definitely more robust than one that fits a Squier Standard & a Mexico Fender. I'm therefore going to guess the latter is a 5 mm ("M5") size, & the former is 10/32" a.k.a. "USA" size.

This just now strikes me as odd. I know of the two major applicaions of the 10/32 thread: California-made Fenders, & Gotoh bridge assemblies. Does this mean the Mavericks have Gotoh bridges...? :o
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: Rushbo on February 28, 2017, 03:28:17 PM
Thanks Tony - I've ordered a 10/32 with crossed fingers...
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: Steve B. on October 03, 2017, 05:08:36 AM
(https://scontent.fmxp1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14390974_10210349188628864_4149590339216323786_n.jpg?oh=8049bb4591efcc6269e511fc996b8112&oe=5A4934B2)

Guys, that's my guitar... i bought it second hand many years ago and it was already "modified/customized"... I never really understood which is the model (well, it's a Billy T., but i can find enything else). It has HSS and a Floyd Rose bridge. The serial number is "6112473".
Could you help me to know something more? Thank you!!

Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: Tony Raven on October 08, 2017, 03:11:18 PM
The BT-9 was the only BT with maple fretboard. The BT models with Rose system were BT-6 (hss), BT-10 (hh), & BT-20 (hh). Is there any indication the bridge is a later addition?

At a wild guess, I'd say you have a short-lived "transitional" guitar (or a short-run "demo"model) as the line went from "BillyT" to "BT" naming. It certainly has the BT-9 style pickguard (which only the BT-9 & BT-3 had). The only BT that had the sunburst were BT-4 & BT-20.

As the BT-9 were only around 1996-1999, that'd put yours at the early end. As I showed previously, these appear to have used only the first digit for year, which does appear to make yours a 1996.
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: Tony Raven on January 03, 2018, 01:26:34 AM
I found a random 2006 comment from Customer Service about Mavericks, so figured I'd put it here.

https://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showpost.php?s=280f214df5285523d35610beac56d0b0&p=13015323&postcount=21 (https://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showpost.php?s=280f214df5285523d35610beac56d0b0&p=13015323&postcount=21)

Quote
DEAR WES JETT,

YOUR GUITAR IS A MODEL# BT4B. IT WAS PART OF OUR "MAVERICK SERIES".
THE LETTER "B" AT THE END OF "BT4B" REPRESENTS THE BLACK PAINT COLOR.
YOU APPEAR TO HAVE THE BLACK VERSION.
IT WAS BUILT UNDER CONTRACT IN 2001 BY THE SAMICK GUITAR COMPANY FOR WASHBURN.
IT IS CURRENTLY DISCONTINUED FOR THE USA MARKET, BUT IS STILL AVAILABLE
IN SOME OVERSEAS MARKETS. THIS MODEL WAS KNOWN FOR ITS COMFORTABLE
ERGONOMIC DESIGN, EXCELLENT CONSTRUCTION, CUSTOM-VOICED WASHBURN
PICKUPS, HIGH QUALITY COMPONENTS, AND PLAYING EASE. THE BODY DESIGN
WAS A VARIANCE ON THE USA-BUILT JENNIFER BATTEN ARTIST MODELS.
YOU HAVE A GREAT GUITAR IN HAND. I HAVE ATTACHED A PDF FILE
CONTAINING A PORTION OF THE 2001 THAT PICTURES YOUR GUITAR.
PLEASE ENJOY YOUR GUITAR, YOU GOT A GOOD ONE.

THANKS,
Scott Rickett

Valuable for confirming that BTs (the later ones, at least) were indeed Samick.
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: Tony Raven on April 08, 2018, 04:03:17 PM
Wow, how the heck did I overlook this --
THE BODY DESIGN
WAS A VARIANCE ON THE USA-BUILT JENNIFER BATTEN ARTIST MODELS.
Mmmm... nope.  8)

The JB models were offered 2000-2004.

The Mavericks were around 1995-2002.
Title: Re: the BT/Maverick line
Post by: Tony Raven on May 15, 2018, 10:34:10 PM
Nope, not done yet with my fandom. 8)

Though presently asking $325, this is somewhat tempting. Oh, heck, I'll describe it first: a pre-Maverick "Billy T" (with BOTH series markings, yet) that looks a whole lot like a BT-2, & was Korea-made, & has original Grovers (unlike some of the pre-Mavs)

...but with gold hardware AND minibuckers.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1994-1996-Early-Washburn-Billy-T-guitar-RARE-GOLD-HUMBUCKER-PICKUPS-GRAB-IT-NICE/282966812370?hash=item41e222e6d2:g:Lk0AAOSwjJtaqxq9 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/1994-1996-Early-Washburn-Billy-T-guitar-RARE-GOLD-HUMBUCKER-PICKUPS-GRAB-IT-NICE/282966812370?hash=item41e222e6d2:g:Lk0AAOSwjJtaqxq9)

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/5W0AAOSw94laqxrJ/s-l1600.jpg)

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/vRoAAOSwPoZaqxrP/s-l1600.jpg)

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/oc4AAOSwM2xaqxrS/s-l1600.jpg)

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/gQMAAOSwtc1aqxrc/s-l1600.jpg)

The seller says its s/n begins with a 4, guessing it at 1994; he seems to know a little something about the model at least.

But what has me swaying is that the fretboard (which seller does say he oiled) sure looks a bit like ebony...  :o