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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on June 08, 2007, 10:15:17 AM
So, I'm starting this thread mostly for selfish reasons.  I love ogling the N4s made by Stephen Davies.  But, I'm sure there are many others visiting this board that would like to see a handful of the beautiful creations by Mr. Davies and understand how to quickly identify a true Davies model at a quick glance.  So, if you have one, snap a photo and share it with your pals!  Front, back, and headstock revealing serial number would be a good start.  If you want to show more, great!

Let's see 'em, guys (and girls)!

This is my baby:

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3175/3109282182_e72cf355eb_o.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3024/3109283026_a4b19ec524_o.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3235/3108450621_67c455a5e4_o.jpg)
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: ZeGlobox on June 08, 2007, 11:40:25 AM
And here's mine [:D]

This one is pretty special, as to this date, I've never seen one with a wood like it ! (it's still alder !)
Just like Nuno's, it has a Bill&Becky L500-XL Pickup (Nuno used XL pickups on Pornograffitti), and an OFR...

Here we go :-)

(http://n4ever.free.fr/NewPhotos/davsmall1.jpg)
(http://n4ever.free.fr/NewPhotos/davsmall2.jpg)
(http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/5964/dcp22443nz.jpg)
(http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/4502/dcp22374io.jpg)
(http://n4ever.free.fr/NewPhotos/davsmall3.jpg)
(http://n4ever.free.fr/NewPhotos/davsmall4.jpg)







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2006 relic N4, 2006 Paddy N4, 1993 Padauk N4 ...and the most beatiful 1991-Davies' N4 of all times
http://www.washburn.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9665
http://n4ever.free.fr
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: ZeGlobox on June 09, 2007, 07:05:10 AM
and for those who wants to easily recognize a true Davies, here are some tips :

First of all, the back cavities :
(http://n4ever.free.fr/compare/N4Compar.jpg)

As you can see, the trem cavity on Davies N4s has an inverted T shape.
The volume cavity is larger than regular washburns, and the selector cavity is straight, where regular washburns have somehow triangular ones...
As you can see, the relic is a special case, but the volume and trem cavities have different shapes, so it's easy to spot.

Second, the neck :
(http://n4ever.free.fr/compare/N4Compar2.jpg)
Here, it's easy... only Davies N4s have a curved extended cutaway

Third, the jack :
Here again, really easy, only the Davies don't have a jack plate
(http://n4ever.free.fr/compare/N4Compar3.jpg)

;-)


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Member of the Nuno Brigade :-)
2006 relic N4, 2006 Paddy N4, 1993 Padauk N4 ...and the most beatiful 1991-Davies' N4 of all times
http://www.washburn.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9665
http://n4ever.free.fr
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on June 09, 2007, 09:03:33 AM
ZeGlobox -

I was considering posting some detailed photos much like you have above.  Now, I don't have to [:D] !  Thanks a bunch for saving me time. lol Great photos, btw.

Another detail to note, the tummy contour on a Davies is a little wider than production N4s.  The contour comes much closer to the SEC 5-bolt plate on the back....just look at the pics above.

Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: ZeGlobox on June 09, 2007, 09:46:48 AM
quote:
Originally posted by skeesik

ZeGlobox -

I was considering posting some detailed photos much like you have above.  Now, I don't have to [:D] !  Thanks a bunch for saving me time. lol Great photos, btw.

Another detail to note, the tummy contour on a Davies is a little wider than production N4s.  The contour comes much closer to the SEC 5-bolt plate on the back....just look at the pics above.



Yep :-)

By the way, it's a Bill&Becky on yours too, am I right ?
Which one ? L or XL ?


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Member of the Nuno Brigade :-)
2006 relic N4, 2006 Paddy N4, 1993 Padauk N4 ...and the most beatiful 1991-Davies' N4 of all times
http://www.washburn.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9665
http://n4ever.free.fr
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on June 09, 2007, 12:24:05 PM
quote:
By the way, it's a Bill&Becky on yours too, am I right ?
Which one ? L or XL ?


Yes, I picked up 3 BL500l a couple of years ago.  I don't have to tell you what a difference they made.  I love em : ) I like the balance of the BL500l with the '59.  I figured the XL might overpower the '59 when both pups were on.



Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: crazee4nuno on June 10, 2007, 02:17:40 AM
Here's another difference with the Davies, me and my friend were just talking about the other day... the one on the left is a Davies which belongs to my friend and the one on the right is my '91 transitional Davies with a Grover/Jackson body. Notice the Davies on the left has a thinner, more contoured body, which you can really see on the bottom left side. That's the main reason they are a little more light weight... a little less wood.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/crazee4nuno/Guitars/6e4d1186.jpg)


Proud member of the Nuno Brigade

'91 natural alder N4
'93 paddy stained N2
'95 black N1
'04 mahogany (Mourning Widows) N4
'05 creme N5
EA22 Nuno Bettencourt Platinum Edition acoustic
2 black P2's
Washburn WG 7 string (black)
Fernandes limited korina Ravelle (yellow)
Peavey Vandenberg (red wine color)
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: ZeGlobox on June 10, 2007, 04:04:23 AM
Does anyone know the number of N4s Davies made ?
Some believe it's around 1200.


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Member of the Nuno Brigade :-)
2006 relic N4, 2006 Paddy N4, 1993 Padauk N4 ...and the most beatiful 1991-Davies' N4 of all times
http://www.washburn.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9665
http://n4ever.free.fr
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Chaos Rex on June 10, 2007, 12:36:30 PM
I don't know how many there are, but I'm going to add 2 of them to my collection. (I'm going to turn one of them into an N3.)

Founding Member of the Nuno Brigade
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: crazee4nuno on June 10, 2007, 04:13:59 PM
quote:
Originally posted by ZeGlobox

Does anyone know the number of N4s Davies made ?
Some believe it's around 1200.


I'm not sure how many, but I do know Davies made about 200 transitional's from late '91 to Feb '92. Grover Jackson was producing raw necks and bodies but were unable to finish and assemble them, sent them to Davies for machining, finishing, fret work and all the rest. Davies wrote that to my friend directly when inquiring about my 91. I'm guessing he probably made about 50 to 100 a month for a good year, so that number is probably fairly accurate.


Proud member of the Nuno Brigade

'91 natural alder N4
'93 paddy stained N2
'95 black N1
'04 mahogany (Mourning Widows) N4
'05 creme N5
EA22 Nuno Bettencourt Platinum Edition acoustic
2 black P2's
Washburn WG 7 string (black)
Fernandes limited korina Ravelle (yellow)
Peavey Vandenberg (red wine color)
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: ZeGlobox on June 10, 2007, 04:45:41 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Chaos Rex

I don't know how many there are, but I'm going to add 2 of them to my collection. (I'm going to turn one of them into an N3.)

Founding Member of the Nuno Brigade



ok, I'm going to pretend you didn't say you were gonna butcher a Davies... [V]
How would you fill the selector hole anyway ?

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Member of the Nuno Brigade :-)
2006 relic N4, 2006 Paddy N4, 1993 Padauk N4 ...and the most beatiful 1991-Davies' N4 of all times
http://www.washburn.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9665
http://n4ever.free.fr
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: crazee4nuno on June 10, 2007, 05:09:03 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Chaos Rex

I don't know how many there are, but I'm going to add 2 of them to my collection. (I'm going to turn one of them into an N3.)

Founding Member of the Nuno Brigade



All right... explain yourself Mr.!! What are you thinking? [:D]

Proud member of the Nuno Brigade

'91 natural alder N4
'93 paddy stained N2
'95 black N1
'04 mahogany (Mourning Widows) N4
'05 creme N5
EA22 Nuno Bettencourt Platinum Edition acoustic
2 black P2's
Washburn WG 7 string (black)
Fernandes limited korina Ravelle (yellow)
Peavey Vandenberg (red wine color)
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Chaos Rex on June 10, 2007, 08:04:15 PM
I do believe the N3 was a Davies. I could be wrong but I doubt it. I'm merely going to mimic Nuno's N3 which made a brief appeance in one the Extreme music video's.

In case you didn't know the N3 has two BL's in it. According to my good friend Skee, it's an L500R in the Neck.

I didn't realize there wasn't a selector switch. I think I'll keep mine. I like variety. Another deviation from the glorius N. When I replace all my BL USA pickups, I'll be putting in push/pull pots too. I just happen to have 3 of them, and I'll be switching out 3 so it works out.

I love it when a plan comes together.

Founding Member of the Nuno Brigade
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Chaos Rex on June 10, 2007, 08:16:09 PM
Just found a picture of it in a post right here on this very board.

http://www.washburn.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5489

Though in the video his N3 actually had the space tape N3 sticker on it.

And I see the selector by the knob. I don't like that so I'll just leave it where it is.

Founding Member of the Nuno Brigade
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: crazee4nuno on June 10, 2007, 09:03:29 PM
Ah, I see now. The N3 was only produced by Washburn. If Davies had anything to do with an N3, which I'm sure he did being the cutaway is on it, it would've only been Nuno's. I know Nuno pretty much built his own guitars early on before Washburn got a hold of him. He would take the body, which I believe were Jackson or Charvel into a local music shop to have it shaved down to size, would rip the guitar up and replace whatever he felt needed replacing. Washburn took what Nuno had done himself, made a deal with Nuno and took off with that design and then started making Nuno's guitars. It took a long time for Washburn to get 'em the way Nuno wanted and then finally... the production N's were born with Davies making us the first batch of N4's while Korea made the N2's and then the N1 and N3 followed later as other options. Nuno's N1, N2, and N3 were just improvements upon each other until the holy grail N4 satisfied him. Washburn producing the N1- 2 & 3 is just good business for them and good options for people who can't afford the N4 but want a guitar like Nuno's.

Proud member of the Nuno Brigade

'91 natural alder N4
'93 paddy stained N2
'95 black N1
'04 mahogany (Mourning Widows) N4
'05 creme N5
EA22 Nuno Bettencourt Platinum Edition acoustic
2 black P2's
Washburn WG 7 string (black)
Fernandes limited korina Ravelle (yellow)
Peavey Vandenberg (red wine color)
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: ZeGlobox on June 11, 2007, 05:52:51 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Chaos Rex

I do believe the N3 was a Davies. I could be wrong but I doubt it. I'm merely going to mimic Nuno's N3 which made a brief appeance in one the Extreme music video's.

In case you didn't know the N3 has two BL's in it. According to my good friend Skee, it's an L500R in the Neck.

I didn't realize there wasn't a selector switch. I think I'll keep mine. I like variety. Another deviation from the glorius N. When I replace all my BL USA pickups, I'll be putting in push/pull pots too. I just happen to have 3 of them, and I'll be switching out 3 so it works out.

I love it when a plan comes together.

Founding Member of the Nuno Brigade



I feel better ;-)
I just though you were going to make an actual replica of Nuno's N3, meaning you were about to drill a hole to move the pickup selector where it actually was on the N3 ;-)



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Member of the Nuno Brigade :-)
2006 relic N4, 2006 Paddy N4, 1993 Padauk N4 ...and the most beatiful 1991-Davies' N4 of all times
http://www.washburn.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9665
http://n4ever.free.fr
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Riffrob on June 11, 2007, 07:13:34 AM
I still can't believe how informative you guys are on the whole N4 lineup.  Even after all these years after buying my N4 in '92, I can't imagine a better looking or sounding guitar.  I do have to say though that after years of not liking the L500 bridge, I recently replaced it with John Suhr's Doug Aldrich bridge pup.  I like the rich tone of this pup so much better.  Sure, I've seen forums talking about the imitation BL pickups but I never would have imagined that my Davies guitar would have this fake that's been haunting me for the longest time...(!)
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on June 11, 2007, 08:28:13 AM
With regard to the N1 (pre-Washburn), I believe it was (is) a shaved Schecter body with a Warmoth neck.  I believe it had a Jackson neck at one time as well.  This shaved (scaled down) body then spawned the N2...and so on.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3101/3108495015_83d15f1cc1_o.jpg)
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: crazee4nuno on June 11, 2007, 11:48:11 AM
Oh, OK. I remember Nuno having a Jackson. I'm just not sure of all the changes he made... I just know it kept changing :p Thanks Skee.

Proud member of the Nuno Brigade

'91 natural alder N4
'93 paddy stained N2
'95 black N1
'04 mahogany (Mourning Widows) N4
'05 creme N5
EA22 Nuno Bettencourt Platinum Edition acoustic
2 black P2's
Washburn WG 7 string (black)
Fernandes limited korina Ravelle (yellow)
Peavey Vandenberg (red wine color)
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: ZeGlobox on June 11, 2007, 04:01:15 PM
quote:
Originally posted by skeesik

With regard to the N1 (pre-Washburn), I believe it was (is) a shaved Schecter body with a Warmoth neck.  I believe it had a Jackson neck at one time as well.  This shaved (scaled down) body then spawned the N2...and so on.

(http://cmester.photosite.com/~photos/tn/11196371_1024.ts1181568258000.jpg)

*skee



Nice one... haven't seen it before ! Thanks !!!
Here's a recap on all Nuno's gear :

Funky Metal Tour 1989:

    * Main guitar: shaved, unfinished Schechter body with Warmoth neck. Neck has jumbo frets, the pickups are Bill Lawrence, with a Floyd Rose tremolo
    * 100 watt Marshall head with no modifications
    * Marshall cabs loaded with Peavey Scorpions (used to use Celestions, but changed when he had to use Extreme's original bass player's rig and they were loaded with Scorpions, which were softer and gave more tones)
    * Roland ME-5 (everything conveniently in one place)
    * Rat distortion unit as a line boost
    * black Tackamine acoustic

It's A Monstour 1990-91:

    * N2 and later on, N4 natural
    * black Takamine acoustic (early tour)
    * black EA45 electro-acoustic - Equis II preamplification system
    * Pat's white acoustic was used for the last two weeks of June 91 after Nuno's slipped in a Miami show
    * Roland ME 6
    * ADA MP-1 tube preamps
    * ADA power amps
    * old Ampeg V4 cabs

Stop The World Tour 1992-93:

    * N4 paduak
    * black EA20 shallow body electro-acoustic 6-string
    * black 12-string - looks like a 12-string version of the Washburn solid body electric acoustic SBF80...
    * rack: Roland M-120, ADA MP-1, ADA T100S, PL-PLUS, VU-40, AC AR-PRO, SV-3700 Furman x2 ???
    * Boss ME-5 multiple effects
    * Boss DD-3
    * Boss LS-2
    * MC-1
    * 4 triple stacks of 25 watt Celestion speakers in custom built cabinets
    * bongos
    * grand piano

Punchline Tour:

    * N4 Paduak
    * N8 Natural (original stolen in the States, now returned)
    * SBF-80 (three knobs)
    * Fender Vibroverb
    * Fender Twin Reverb
    * 1969 Marshall 4X12 cab
    * MXR Phase 90 and Phase 100
    * Hughes & Kettner Tubeman
    * Boss ME-5 multiple effects
    * Boss PS-2
    * Rack: PL-PLUS, ADA MP-1, ADA T100S
    * Boss LS-2
    * Boss DD-3

Schizophonic Tour 1997:

    * P4 Signature Tiffany Blue
    * P4 Silver Glitter
    * Hughes and Kettner TriAmp heads
    * Marshall cabs
    * MXR Phase 90
    * Digitech XP-100
    * Boss GE-7 Equalizer
    * Boss OC-2 Octave
    * Demeter Amplication THE TREMULATOR

Mourning Widows Japanese Tour 1999:

    * N4 Padauk
    * N4 Natural
    * P4 Tiffany Blue
    * P4 Silver Sparkle
    * P4 Black
    * P4 Black


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Member of the Nuno Brigade :-)
2006 relic N4, 2006 Paddy N4, 1993 Padauk N4 ...and the most beatiful 1991-Davies' N4 of all times
http://www.washburn.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9665
http://n4ever.free.fr
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Chaos Rex on June 12, 2007, 12:34:18 AM
Ok let's clear the record here as far as Nuno's pre-Washburn days.

I used to go out and buy something like a $1,200 Jackson and cut it up.

My main guitar is insane. I play a shaved, unpainted Schecter body with a Warmoth neck. The neck has jumbo frets, my pikups are made by Bill Lawrence and I have a Floyd Rose twang bar. I've had companies like Washburn and Ibanez try to duplicate it.

             -Nuno Bettencourt, Guitar World, Nov 1989

I'll try and scan the whole blurb in as text. He talks about his amps, the scorpions just like Glowbox said.

Makes you ponder what Washburn did to get Nuno to agree to them making his axe. Whatever they did I think it was worth it. The N4 is as far as I'm concerned one of the most distinguished guitars out there. Obviously it has a pretty good following. Does Washburn have another electric guitar that's talked about as much as the N4?

Founding Member of the Nuno Brigade
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on June 12, 2007, 10:27:59 AM
Yeah, once I saw that pic you sent, Rex, I realized that the Shaved black guitar in the pic I posted is probably a Jackson body, not a Schecter.  The unfinished guitar is definitely a Schecter guitar (at least it looks like one) as Nuno mentions in the article.

Here's a pic that I've been told is the prototype that Ibanez was working on for Nuno.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3233/3108502593_3027f60a4c_o.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3030/3108502395_ae9400754d_o.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3226/3108502537_b7b39acef3_o.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3052/3109334824_291f8f23fe_o.jpg)
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: lozzano on June 13, 2007, 06:19:24 PM
OMG !!!!!!!

I can't recall a thread as interesting as this !!!!

Hello to my dearest friend Crazee4nuno, to Skeesik, Chaos Rex and ZeGlobox among many others Nuno and N4 savants... It's great to see all of you here as well as being part of the Nuno/N4 Brigade.. LEt me upload later pics of Nuno's guitar at HArd Rock CAfe in Roppongi, Tokio, which is an earlier white N1...

Wow !!! the Ibanez Nuno pix are great... I'm glad he didn't sign to Ibanez ! The axe was horrible ! :p

BTW, can the N4 be Washburn's best selling guitar/best made guitar overall?

Awesome !


Proud member of the Nuno Brigade!

Axes:
Davies 91 N4
Relic N4
Paduak 05 N4
1992 N2
2005 N1
2005 Black N1
Washburn Sonic w/Floyd
Washburn Sonic Tailpiece
Fender Japan Richie Kotzen Tele
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: lozzano on June 13, 2007, 06:21:46 PM
Oh to ZeGlobox.. forgot to tell you that your site is awesome.. except for it is in French !!! :p

Have you thought of doing an English translation?

Proud member of the Nuno Brigade!

Axes:
Davies 91 N4
Relic N4
Paduak 05 N4
1992 N2
2005 N1
2005 Black N1
Washburn Sonic w/Floyd
Washburn Sonic Tailpiece
Fender Japan Richie Kotzen Tele
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on June 13, 2007, 08:23:54 PM
Hey, Lozzano : )

Good to see ya....thanks for the kind comments.  

Now, make with the photos!  I see you have a '91 listed in your collection.....let's see it!!!

That's all I've got........well, that, and I agree with you that the Ibanez is a bit gangly lookin'.

Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: lozzano on June 13, 2007, 11:03:02 PM
Hi skeesik and all members of Nuno Brigade...

These are some pix of my Washburn. My '91 N4 is actually the one on the left on Crazee4nuno's picture with two Davies...

Hope you like my axes... I will stay tuned to the Washburn forums more often !

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e64/lozzano/Rob_s_N4_Davies_009.jpg)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e64/lozzano/n42.jpg)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e64/lozzano/Padauk02.jpg)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e64/lozzano/nsboth.jpg)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e64/lozzano/n17closeup.jpg)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e64/lozzano/ShowLetter3.jpg)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e64/lozzano/SonicII011.jpg)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e64/lozzano/100_8721.jpg)

Proud member of the Nuno Brigade!

Axes:
Davies 91 N4
Relic N4
Paduak 05 N4
1992 N2
2005 N1
2005 Black N1
Washburn Sonic w/Floyd
Washburn Sonic Tailpiece
Fender Japan Richie Kotzen Tele
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: ZeGlobox on June 14, 2007, 03:47:16 AM
quote:
Originally posted by lozzano

Oh to ZeGlobox.. forgot to tell you that your site is awesome.. except for it is in French !!! :p

Have you thought of doing an English translation?




Translation is on its way... be patient ;-)

Nice Davies by the way !!!
You should definetly install a Bill & Becky L500-XL on it... I bet you would simply looove it ! ;-)


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Member of the Nuno Brigade :-)
2006 relic N4, 2006 Paddy N4, 1993 Padauk N4 ...and the most beatiful 1991-Davies' N4 of all times
http://www.washburn.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9665
http://n4ever.free.fr
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: lozzano on June 14, 2007, 10:13:36 AM
Many people agree the Bill and Becky pickup is simply better... even though I have never tried or listened to one, I don't like the current BL on the Nuno guitars.. it's way too trebly and noisy...



Proud member of the Nuno Brigade!

Axes:
Davies 91 N4
Relic N4
Paduak 05 N4
1992 N2
2005 N1
2005 Black N1
Washburn Sonic w/Floyd
Washburn Sonic Tailpiece
Fender Japan Richie Kotzen Tele
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Chaos Rex on June 14, 2007, 11:00:11 AM
Lozzano,

Nice guitars. Your Davies and your Sonic are top. I've been wanting a 7 string Sonice with Floyd Rose for a long time. I think I like the color of yours the best of all the one's I've seen.

I have a few N4s. One of them has a real B&B L500 in it. The other's have ...the other guys pickups. There is quite a difference between the 2. While my first N4 my infamous Swamp Pad (no I'm still not convinced) has been my fave of my N4's and I thought the sound of the BL USA was a good sounding pickup, once I started playing my Wineburst N4 with the real B&B L500... wow. I really do like the sound of theirs alot more. And if you want to nail Nuno's tone you really need the B&B L500 in there.

I actually just ordered 3 B&B L500's (of varying types). And I can't wait to replace all the bridge pick-ups in my other N4's. I'll do some before and after sound clips and post them.

Founding Member of the Nuno Brigade
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: lozzano on June 14, 2007, 11:28:28 AM
Hey Chaos...

Thx for the explanation about the BL pickups. I will look forward to trying one soon. As for the Sonics, they are indeed killing machines... I don't know really why Washburn stopped making them... some say it was a tough competitor for the Nunos and the now defunct Nx series.. but they are every penny worthy, made in USA, great quality components and now they are being offered so cheap at Ebay !!!...

While I'm not interested in 7 strings guitars, I've heard so many positive comments about Sonic 7s as well...

Proud member of the Nuno Brigade!

Axes:
Davies 91 N4
Relic N4
Paduak 05 N4
1992 N2
2005 N1
2005 Black N1
Washburn Sonic w/Floyd
Washburn Sonic Tailpiece
Fender Japan Richie Kotzen Tele
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: ZeGlobox on June 14, 2007, 01:43:39 PM
quote:
Originally posted by ZeGlobox

quote:
Originally posted by lozzano

Oh to ZeGlobox.. forgot to tell you that your site is awesome.. except for it is in French !!! :p

Have you thought of doing an English translation?




Translation is on its way... be patient ;-)

Nice Davies by the way !!!
You should definetly install a Bill & Becky L500-XL on it... I bet you would simply looove it ! ;-)


----
Member of the Nuno Brigade :-)
2006 relic N4, 2006 Paddy N4, 1993 Padauk N4 ...and the most beatiful 1991-Davies' N4 of all times
http://www.washburn.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9665
http://n4ever.free.fr



DONE [:D]

http://n4ever.free.fr now speaks english [8D][8D]



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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: crazee4nuno on June 14, 2007, 02:09:52 PM
Hey Lozzano... I really like your guitars man... especially when they're at my house!! [:D]
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Chaos Rex on June 14, 2007, 02:15:53 PM
Man I miss the Nx Series too. Why oh why would that series get discontinued?

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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: lozzano on June 14, 2007, 02:17:08 PM
Hey Crazee !!! Where have you been????

Haven't seen you in ages !!!!




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1992 N2
2005 N1
2005 Black N1
Washburn Sonic w/Floyd
Washburn Sonic Tailpiece
Fender Japan Richie Kotzen Tele
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: lozzano on June 14, 2007, 02:20:15 PM
Same old question with the Sonics: Why would they get discontinued?

Nobody knows, anyway I guess when most people recognizes their quality, those kind of guitars (Sonics or Nxs) are such a bargain to not be taken when on Ebay... who knows, maybe someday their price will increase...

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2005 N1
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Washburn Sonic w/Floyd
Washburn Sonic Tailpiece
Fender Japan Richie Kotzen Tele
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: crazee4nuno on June 14, 2007, 02:27:53 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Chaos Rex

Makes you ponder what Washburn did to get Nuno to agree to them making his axe. Founding Member of the Nuno Brigade



A few guitar companies approached Nuno, Ibanez being one, to do a signature series, but they all wanted to make their own guitar and just put Nuno's name on it. Washburn was the only one that offered to do the guitar exactly to Nuno's specifications, so Washburn was the winner for Nuno.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: ZeGlobox on June 14, 2007, 02:31:55 PM
quote:
Originally posted by crazee4nuno

quote:
Originally posted by Chaos Rex

Makes you ponder what Washburn did to get Nuno to agree to them making his axe. Founding Member of the Nuno Brigade



A few guitar companies approached Nuno, Ibanez being one, to do a signature series, but they all wanted to make their own guitar and just put Nuno's name on it. Washburn was the only one that offered to do the guitar exactly to Nuno's specifications, so Washburn was the winner for Nuno.



Good thing washburn won ;)
The N4 is just perfect the way it is !
[:D]

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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: crazee4nuno on June 14, 2007, 02:40:15 PM
quote:
Originally posted by lozzano

Hey Crazee !!! Where have you been????

Haven't seen you in ages !!!!



Ages?? I just talked to you 2 days ago [:D] But I'm special, so 2 days must feel like ages [:D]

And I'll add to the list of Why, oh why's... Why, oh why did Washburn discontinue the P4?!!!
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Chaos Rex on June 14, 2007, 03:37:31 PM
quote:
Originally posted by crazee4nuno

Quote
Originally posted by lozzano


And I'll add to the list of Why, oh why's... Why, oh why did Washburn discontinue the P4?!!!



They didn't...well not really. It turned into the CT series and I'm tellin ya they turned that into the Idol. I mean come on. Look at the P series vs. the Idol. They changed the shape a tiny bit and gave it some different features...

Ok so Idols aren't P's but they really are damn close.

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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on June 14, 2007, 03:52:47 PM
Wait, weren't the Ps and CTs chambered, and the Idols aren't?

Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Chaos Rex on June 14, 2007, 04:00:43 PM
So technical. That's why we aren't letting you into the Nuno Brigade.

By the way I probably never mentioned it before but any of the P series owners are more than welcome in the Nuno Brigade as well.

Cept for you skee!

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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: crazee4nuno on June 14, 2007, 04:01:08 PM
The Idols are damn cool, but I liked the shape, contour and sound of the P/CT's better. I thought they were better than an actual Les Paul.

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'04 mahogany (Mourning Widows) N4
'05 creme N5
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2 black P2's
Washburn WG 7 string (black)
Fernandes limited korina Ravelle (yellow)
Peavey Vandenberg (red wine color)
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: crazee4nuno on June 14, 2007, 04:04:57 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Chaos Rex


By the way I probably never mentioned it before but any of the P series owners are more than welcome in the Nuno Brigade as well.
Founding Member of the Nuno Brigade



Well I would hope so since Nuno did design the P's... along with another guy, but that's his baby too.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: ZeGlobox on June 14, 2007, 07:26:21 PM

By the way.. Lozzano, we were talking about Bill & Becky L500s...
Well... Throw an ear at that L500-XL screaming :

http://n4ever.free.fr/Tracks/GTFO_Solo.mp3

That's my Davies with its Bill & Becky L500-XL plugged into my ADA MP1 (Using Nuno's pornograffitti patch [:D] )

... and here's a little gift (just did it, still hot !!):
http://n4ever.free.fr/Tracks/BackTrack_GTFO.mp3



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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: ZeGlobox on June 17, 2007, 05:31:13 PM
quote:
Originally posted by ZeGlobox


By the way.. Lozzano, we were talking about Bill & Becky L500s...
Well... Throw an ear at that L500-XL screaming :

http://n4ever.free.fr/Tracks/GTFO_Solo.mp3

That's my Davies with its Bill & Becky L500-XL plugged into my ADA MP1 (Using Nuno's pornograffitti patch [:D] )

... and here's a little gift (just did it, still hot !!):
http://n4ever.free.fr/Tracks/BackTrack_GTFO.mp3



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.... so ? No other Davies ? come on... I'm sure there are some around here !


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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: kiyo_jap on June 18, 2007, 09:18:27 AM
Hi. I think ccrazee4nuno's left N4 and lozzano's N4 is not DAVIES. Isn't it N4 made in Japan? I am sorry when it is a misunderstanding.
If the PATENT number was filled in, it is made in Japan. If PENDING and HANDMADEINUSA were described, it is made of DAVIES. And, the bridge is made of Kahler.
http://www.digimart.net/gk_detail.do?instrument_id=DS00270646
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Chaos Rex on June 18, 2007, 10:25:48 AM
It is a misunderstanding. The N4 has never been made in Japan. Check the back of the headstock on any N4. It's made in the USA.

There have been a # of N4s which were made for Japan and not released in the states, such as Crazee's Mourning Windows N4. But all N4s are made in the USA.

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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: crazee4nuno on June 18, 2007, 04:16:18 PM
There is a standard N4 produced in Japan, but they are clearly labeled made in Japan. Mine and lozzano's are made by Davies. Davies himself looked at our guitars and said he built them. In late '91, Davies started using parts that Washburn were sending him and he used those to build some of them. And lozzano's is commonly called a bitsa, which Davies used his body and neck along with some Washburn parts. Lozzano's is all Davies.. body, neck, back plates, etc., but it has a Schaller.

Also, mine was built in '91. Japan was not producing the N4 back then. Mine is stamped made in the USA. We do not know exactly when lozzano's was built, cuz it does not have a serial #... unless it is hidden in the neck joint like some of the very early ones. Lozzano's might be some type of proto, according to Davies.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: crazee4nuno on June 18, 2007, 04:21:03 PM
Here is the Japanese N4 on one site http://www.rakuten.co.jp/ikebe/443972/479033/479042/ It's pretty much the same as the USA N4, but they are made in Japan... probably to make them more affordable for the Japanese. The N4 is quite popular in Japan, but very expensive for them to import.

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'93 paddy stained N2
'95 black N1
'04 mahogany (Mourning Widows) N4
'05 creme N5
EA22 Nuno Bettencourt Platinum Edition acoustic
2 black P2's
Washburn WG 7 string (black)
Fernandes limited korina Ravelle (yellow)
Peavey Vandenberg (red wine color)
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Chaos Rex on June 18, 2007, 04:50:32 PM
Interesting. Is your Mourning Windows N4 MIJ? As I understand it it was released in Japan only.

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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: crazee4nuno on June 18, 2007, 06:06:03 PM
No, the MW N4 is made in the USA, but it was sold in Japan only.

And I take back what I said about the Japanese N4's being clearly marked MIJ... I don't know if they are marked, but they do not say made in USA.

And the N4's made in Japan look exactly like a Davies.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Chaos Rex on June 18, 2007, 06:22:07 PM
quote:
Originally posted by crazee4nuno


And the N4's made in Japan look exactly like a Davies.



I noticed that. Davies/Relic. Very cool. You learn something new every day.

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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on June 18, 2007, 06:39:09 PM
quote:
Originally posted by crazee4nuno

No, the MW N4 is made in the USA, but it was sold in Japan only.

And I take back what I said about the Japanese N4's being clearly marked MIJ... I don't know if they are marked, but they do not say made in USA.

And the N4's made in Japan look exactly like a Davies.



Save for the SEC neck slope....if ya catch my drift.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: crazee4nuno on June 18, 2007, 06:53:43 PM
Actually, they do have the slope too.

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'93 paddy stained N2
'95 black N1
'04 mahogany (Mourning Widows) N4
'05 creme N5
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2 black P2's
Washburn WG 7 string (black)
Fernandes limited korina Ravelle (yellow)
Peavey Vandenberg (red wine color)
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on June 18, 2007, 07:01:14 PM
quote:
Originally posted by crazee4nuno

Actually, they do have the slope too.


No kidding?  Huh....I'd like to see one....not that I doubt you, Ann.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: crazee4nuno on June 18, 2007, 07:02:11 PM
quote:
Originally posted by kiyo_jap

Hi. I think ccrazee4nuno's left N4 and lozzano's N4 is not DAVIES. Isn't it N4 made in Japan? I am sorry when it is a misunderstanding.
If the PATENT number was filled in, it is made in Japan. If PENDING and HANDMADEINUSA were described, it is made of DAVIES. And, the bridge is made of Kahler.
http://www.digimart.net/gk_detail.do?instrument_id=DS00270646



After looking at lozzano's N4, the one on the left... we think you are right and that it is Japanese. Do you know how the Japanese N4's are numbered as far as a serial or anything? And do you have any other info on the Japanese N4, like how exactly it differs from a Davies, other than it not saying made in the USA and the signature series decal being a little different, cuz other than that... I find no difference in it from a real Davies.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: crazee4nuno on June 18, 2007, 07:08:11 PM
quote:
Originally posted by skeesik

quote:
Originally posted by crazee4nuno

Actually, they do have the slope too.


No kidding?  Huh....I'd like to see one....not that I doubt you, Ann.

*skee



I can see the slope a little bit in some of the pix online, but not good. Also, after discovering lozzano's is Japanese... his has the slope. I'm on a mission to learn more about these Japanese N4's and a close up of the slope.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: lozzano on June 18, 2007, 07:19:47 PM
[:(] So one of the discoveries of this thread was that my Davies is very likely a Japanese version... that almost did the trick and deceived many of us for soo long, including Steven Davies himself...

Anyway I feel between the devil and the deep blue sea since I don't know a thing about the Japanese N4s or how good they are.. I wish I could have more info about it in order to know what the hell I own Any info will be much appreciated [8D]

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Axes:
Davies 91 N4
Relic N4
Paduak 05 N4
1992 N2
2005 N1
2005 Black N1
Washburn Sonic w/Floyd
Washburn Sonic Tailpiece
Fender Japan Richie Kotzen Tele
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: crazee4nuno on June 18, 2007, 08:16:31 PM
Here is the SEC on lozzano's. It has a slope and we are pretty sure it's Japanese. It does not say made in USA anywhere on it.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/crazee4nuno/Guitars/robsn4025.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/crazee4nuno/Guitars/robsn4009.jpg)

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'91 natural alder N4
'93 paddy stained N2
'95 black N1
'04 mahogany (Mourning Widows) N4
'05 creme N5
EA22 Nuno Bettencourt Platinum Edition acoustic
2 black P2's
Washburn WG 7 string (black)
Fernandes limited korina Ravelle (yellow)
Peavey Vandenberg (red wine color)
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: ZeGlobox on June 19, 2007, 03:18:57 AM
quote:
Originally posted by crazee4nuno

Here is the SEC on lozzano's. It has a slope and we are pretty sure it's Japanese. It does not say made in USA anywhere on it.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/crazee4nuno/Guitars/robsn4025.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/crazee4nuno/Guitars/robsn4009.jpg)

Proud member of the Nuno Brigade

'91 natural alder N4
'93 paddy stained N2
'95 black N1
'04 mahogany (Mourning Widows) N4
'05 creme N5
EA22 Nuno Bettencourt Platinum Edition acoustic
2 black P2's
Washburn WG 7 string (black)
Fernandes limited korina Ravelle (yellow)
Peavey Vandenberg (red wine color)



Very interesting stuff... I didn't think there were curved SEC that weren't Davies...
Lozzano, what is the serial number ?
Does it have a jack plate ?
Maybe this could be a full Davies replica...

Anyway, the '1989' just can't be the production year as the very first N4s were made in late 90, and the patent was given somewhere late-91 early-92...




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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: kiyo_jap on June 19, 2007, 05:41:21 AM
It is difficult to distinguish N4 made of DAVIES made Japan certainly. Because it was made made in Japan referring to made of DAVIES. Padauk is here.http://www.digimart.net/gk_detail.do?instrument_id=DS00261015
As a big difference,The description of the serial number is not found made in Japan.
and HAND MADE IN USA is not described. Moreover, I think that the feature made of DAVIES is PATS PENDING.

The individual difference of washburn is great including. Also though it is a place where it likes there.
It makes to either All N4 is a wonderful guitar.

This is my DAVIES     and my foot[8D]
Because the condition of rear PUL500 was bad, it exchanged it for new L500.
(http://sakuratan.ddo.jp/imgboard/img-box/img20070619193932.jpg)

91'N4 Alder
94'N4 Padauk
P4 TB
CT5 CS
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: ZeGlobox on June 19, 2007, 05:57:45 AM
quote:
Originally posted by kiyo_jap

It is difficult to distinguish N4 made of DAVIES made Japan certainly. Because it was made made in Japan referring to made of DAVIES. Padauk is here.http://www.digimart.net/gk_detail.do?instrument_id=DS00261015
As a big difference,The description of the serial number is not found made in Japan.
and HAND MADE IN USA is not described. Moreover, I think that the feature made of DAVIES is PATS PENDING.

The individual difference of washburn is great including. Also though it is a place where it likes there.
Make to either, and a wonderful guitar made of DAVIES.

this is my DAVIES and my foot[:D]
Because the condition of rear PUL500 was bad, it exchanged it for new L500.
(http://sakuratan.ddo.jp/imgboard/img-box/img20070619193932.jpg)

91'N4 Alder
94'N4 Padauk
P4 TB
CT5 CS



Ok. so basically... I have to update my FAQ ;-)
So, Japanese N4s have been made with all Davies caracteristics except the 'Handmade in USA' print on the Extended Cutaway ! The Padauk is the best example !

Nice Davies by the way, kijo ! [:D]
I very much like the 'Porn Star' sticker ! Where did you get it ?


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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: ZeGlobox on June 19, 2007, 05:59:21 AM

By the way, Kiyo, since you seem to be quite a big Nuno fan.. why didn't you replace the L500 with a real one ? [;)]

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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: kiyo_jap on June 19, 2007, 06:14:28 AM
quote:
Originally posted by ZeGlobox


By the way, Kiyo, since you seem to be quite a big Nuno fan.. why didn't you replace the L500 with a real one ? [;)]

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Thanxxx ZeGlobox[:)]
Your DAVIES is also very beautifulš
Was bridges exchanged?I also am scheduling the exchange for FLOYED ROSE.
 
>>I very much like the 'Porn Star' sticker ! Where did you get it ?
Sorry,It bought it in the shop in Japan. I think that the United States sells it a lot.

>>By the way, Kiyo, since you seem to be quite a big Nuno fan.. why didn't you replace the L500 with a real one ?
Yes. My best guitarist : with Nuno and Jason Becker. It is made to feel admiration for the rhythm of Nuno very much.
It was felt that the output of rear PU it was weak though DAVIES bought at second hand. When having investigated, it exchanged it because PU was in bad condition. A wonderful tone is played now.

91'N4 Alder
94'N4 Padauk
P4 TB
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: ZeGlobox on June 19, 2007, 06:23:57 AM
quote:
Originally posted by kiyo_jap

quote:
Originally posted by ZeGlobox


By the way, Kiyo, since you seem to be quite a big Nuno fan.. why didn't you replace the L500 with a real one ? [;)]

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Thanxxx ZeGlobox[:)]
>>I very much like the 'Porn Star' sticker ! Where did you get it ?
Sorr,It bought it in the shop in Japan. I think that the United States sells it a lot.

>>By the way, Kiyo, since you seem to be quite a big Nuno fan.. why didn't you replace the L500 with a real one ?
Yes. My best guitarist : with Nuno and Jason Becker. It is made to feel admiration for the rhythm of Nuno very much.
It was felt that the output of rear PU it was weak though DAVIES bought at second hand. When having investigated, it exchanged it because PU was in bad condition. A wonderful tone is played now.

91'N4 Alder
94'N4 Padauk
P4 TB



You should try the real L500...

Nuno doesn't use Bill Lawrence USA Pickups..
(http://www.aampselectricguitarstore.com/images/bill_lawrence_l500.jpg)


If you want Nuno's sound, you have to get this one :
(http://www.billlawrence.com/Images/Pickups/500small2.jpg)

[;)]





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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: kiyo_jap on June 19, 2007, 06:28:39 AM
quote:
Originally posted by ZeGlobox

quote:
Originally posted by kiyo_jap

quote:
Originally posted by ZeGlobox


By the way, Kiyo, since you seem to be quite a big Nuno fan.. why didn't you replace the L500 with a real one ? [;)]

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Thanxxx ZeGlobox[:)]
>>I very much like the 'Porn Star' sticker ! Where did you get it ?
Sorr,It bought it in the shop in Japan. I think that the United States sells it a lot.

>>By the way, Kiyo, since you seem to be quite a big Nuno fan.. why didn't you replace the L500 with a real one ?
Yes. My best guitarist : with Nuno and Jason Becker. It is made to feel admiration for the rhythm of Nuno very much.
It was felt that the output of rear PU it was weak though DAVIES bought at second hand. When having investigated, it exchanged it because PU was in bad condition. A wonderful tone is played now.

91'N4 Alder
94'N4 Padauk
P4 TB



You should try the real L500...

Nuno doesn't use Bill Lawrence USA Pickups..
(http://www.aampselectricguitarstore.com/images/bill_lawrence_l500.jpg)


If you want Nuno's sound, you have to get this one :
(http://www.billlawrence.com/Images/Pickups/500small2.jpg)

[;)]





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Thank you.
It knew for the first time.[:0] Could you teach two difference points?

I do not think that this L500 is sold to a sad thing in Japan. Are you sold in your country (USA?) now?


91'N4 Alder
94'N4 Padauk
P4 TB
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: ZeGlobox on June 19, 2007, 06:48:29 AM
The Bill Lawrence USA ( the one you have ) has a lot of treble, not much bass and aggressive mids…

The real Bill Lawrence has a little less treble, a lot more bass and mediums are way more balanced… if you take the L500-XL you’ll have Nuno’s sound on Pornograffitti !
You can find it there : http://www.billlawrence.com , they should be able to send you one !


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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: kiyo_jap on June 19, 2007, 07:01:54 AM
quote:
Originally posted by ZeGlobox

The Bill Lawrence USA ( the one you have ) has a lot of treble, not much bass and aggressive midsE

The real Bill Lawrence has a little less treble, a lot more bass and mediums are way more balancedEif you take the L500-XL you’ll have Nuno’s sound on Pornograffitti !
You can find it there : http://www.billlawrence.com , they should be able to send you one !


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Thank you for teaching. [;)]
I want to buy it immediately.


91'N4 Alder
94'N4 Padauk
P4 TB
CT5 CS
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: ZeGlobox on June 19, 2007, 08:59:10 AM
quote:
Originally posted by kiyo_jap

quote:
Originally posted by ZeGlobox

The Bill Lawrence USA ( the one you have ) has a lot of treble, not much bass and aggressive midsE

The real Bill Lawrence has a little less treble, a lot more bass and mediums are way more balancedEif you take the L500-XL you’ll have Nuno’s sound on Pornograffitti !
You can find it there : http://www.billlawrence.com , they should be able to send you one !




Thank you for teaching. [;)]
I want to buy it immediately.




Be careful when you get one : The wire colors are not the same...
Don't use the same wiring than the Bill Lawrence USA ! [;)]


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2006 relic N4, 2006 Paddy N4, 1993 Padauk N4 ...and the most beatiful 1991-Davies' N4 of all times
http://www.washburn.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9665

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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: crazee4nuno on June 19, 2007, 01:49:06 PM
quote:
Originally posted by ZeGloboxVery interesting stuff... I didn't think there were curved SEC that weren't Davies...
Lozzano, what is the serial number ?
Does it have a jack plate ?
Maybe this could be a full Davies replica...

Anyway, the '1989' just can't be the production year as the very first N4s were made in late 90, and the patent was given somewhere late-91 early-92...**



The 1989 is not a year... I think it might be some type of serial number. Here is another one stamped the same way http://www.washburn.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8742

It does not have a serial # and it does not have a jack plate. It's exactly like a Davies, you can't tell the difference other than not having made in the USA. And also, you can't go by the patent pending or numbers, cuz some of Davies do have patent numbers on them... mainly the transitional ones. You also can't go by the schaller either cuz Davies said he sometimes used schallers. The Japanese are making the N4's just like Davies and they are better than the USA N4's... not to mention cheaper, so WTF WASHBURN?!!!

Proud member of the Nuno Brigade

'91 natural alder N4
'93 paddy stained N2
'95 black N1
'04 mahogany (Mourning Widows) N4
'05 creme N5
EA22 Nuno Bettencourt Platinum Edition acoustic
2 black P2's
Washburn WG 7 string (black)
Fernandes limited korina Ravelle (yellow)
Peavey Vandenberg (red wine color)
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: lozzano on June 19, 2007, 01:56:29 PM
Any other info regarding (my) Japanese-made N4s will be much appreciated...

I'm thnking of some questions:

How many of them have been made?
Who makes/made them? (Since I understand Washburn must be comissioning someone -brand, luthier- to do that job instead of setting an overseas custom shop)
How do they number/identify them?

It would be interesting indeed if anybody from Washburn's custom shop/management could give all of us some insights regarding this interesting and yet little known topic.

Proud member of the Nuno Brigade!

Axes:
Davies 91 N4
Relic N4
Paduak 05 N4
1992 N2
2005 N1
2005 Black N1
Washburn Sonic w/Floyd
Washburn Sonic Tailpiece
Fender Japan Richie Kotzen Tele
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: crazee4nuno on June 19, 2007, 02:09:08 PM
Some more pix of lozzano's N4...

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/crazee4nuno/Guitars/robsn4555.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/crazee4nuno/Guitars/robsn4444.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/crazee4nuno/Guitars/robsn4333.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/crazee4nuno/Guitars/robsn4222.jpg)

Proud member of the Nuno Brigade

'91 natural alder N4
'93 paddy stained N2
'95 black N1
'04 mahogany (Mourning Widows) N4
'05 creme N5
EA22 Nuno Bettencourt Platinum Edition acoustic
2 black P2's
Washburn WG 7 string (black)
Fernandes limited korina Ravelle (yellow)
Peavey Vandenberg (red wine color)
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Chaos Rex on June 19, 2007, 02:55:53 PM
Here are some great shots of a MIJ N4

http://1484.bz/shibuya/select.cgi?id=29530

Founding Member of the Nuno Brigade
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on June 19, 2007, 07:20:35 PM
quote:
Originally posted by crazee4nuno

Here is the SEC on lozzano's. It has a slope and we are pretty sure it's Japanese. It does not say made in USA anywhere on it.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/crazee4nuno/Guitars/robsn4025.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/crazee4nuno/Guitars/robsn4009.jpg)




Ok, is it just me, or does that slope look awfully strange?  In the pics, it almost looks like body filler or wood putty.  Maybe it's the flash....

....weird.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on June 19, 2007, 07:22:18 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Chaos Rex

Here are some great shots of a MIJ N4

http://1484.bz/shibuya/select.cgi?id=29530

Founding Member of the Nuno Brigade



Nice find, Rex.....if all Japanese N4s look like that, then the headstock / neck joint is a dead give away that it's not a Davies.

Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Chaos Rex on June 19, 2007, 10:32:47 PM
If they do all look the same then Lozzano's N4 is Not a MIJ.

So cheer up Lozzano.

But man, now I've got GAS for one of those MIJ N4s

Founding Member of the Nuno Brigade
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: FURNISHEDSOUL on June 20, 2007, 12:35:26 AM
hey
can anyone help me out  
i have a n4 #910718 has all the signs of a davies but my input jack isnt set into the wood its on the outer edge with a rubber washer. it has a kahler trem, the slope on the neck,flush backplate and cutouts seem correct. but the jack doesnt look like the ones ive seen on this forum?
any help would be great thanks
91 alder n4
95 padauk n4
n2 padauk stain
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: kiyo_jap on June 20, 2007, 07:16:17 AM
quote:
Originally posted by ZeGlobox

quote:
Originally posted by kiyo_jap

quote:
Originally posted by ZeGlobox

The Bill Lawrence USA ( the one you have ) has a lot of treble, not much bass and aggressive midsE

The real Bill Lawrence has a little less treble, a lot more bass and mediums are way more balancedEif you take the L500-XL you’ll have Nuno’s sound on Pornograffitti !
You can find it there : http://www.billlawrence.com , they should be able to send you one !




Thank you for teaching. [;)]
I want to buy it immediately.




Be careful when you get one : The wire colors are not the same...
Don't use the same wiring than the Bill Lawrence USA ! [;)]


----
Member of the Nuno Brigade :-)
2006 relic N4, 2006 Paddy N4, 1993 Padauk N4 ...and the most beatiful 1991-Davies' N4 of all times
http://www.washburn.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9665

************************
http://n4ever.free.fr IS NOW IN ENGLISH
************************




thanx[:)]
Do you know Bill Lawrence K-500MS?The feature etc. : when knowing though I would like you to teach.
DAVIES, L500XL is original PUH


91'N4 Alder
94'N4 Padauk
P4 TB
CT5 CS
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: kiyo_jap on June 20, 2007, 07:20:27 AM
quote:
Originally posted by crazee4nuno

There is a standard N4 produced in Japan, but they are clearly labeled made in Japan. Mine and lozzano's are made by Davies. Davies himself looked at our guitars and said he built them. In late '91, Davies started using parts that Washburn were sending him and he used those to build some of them. And lozzano's is commonly called a bitsa, which Davies used his body and neck along with some Washburn parts. Lozzano's is all Davies.. body, neck, back plates, etc., but it has a Schaller.

Also, mine was built in '91. Japan was not producing the N4 back then. Mine is stamped made in the USA. We do not know exactly when lozzano's was built, cuz it does not have a serial #... unless it is hidden in the neck joint like some of the very early ones. Lozzano's might be some type of proto, according to Davies.



Oh sorry
I'm sorry. It was thought that the pic was your N4.
Is there a pic of your DAVIES?
I would like you to show it by all means. [;)]

91'N4 Alder
94'N4 Padauk
P4 TB
CT5 CS
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: patpend on June 20, 2007, 07:47:06 AM
For those who wants to know more about the MIJ N4, here is what I know.
MIJ N4 was introduced around '91.  Officially liscensed from Washburn, Tokai is the manufacturer of this guitar.  When Tokai signed the liscense contract with Washburn around '91, the blueprint of N4 was also given to Tokai.  And that blueprint is Davies N4.  that is why, MIJ N4 is exactly the same as Davies, because it is based on the same blueprint.  Over the years, MIJ N4 has done few minor changes, some of such changes are, the neck profile,  nut was changed from through the neck type to screw in type...but basic features remain unchanged.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: lozzano on June 20, 2007, 10:12:48 AM
Hey patpend.. that brand Tokai what other guitars make?

How does a MIJ N4 compare to a USA N4 (not Davies)?

Since I haven't played mine (is in Crazee's house) I would like to know how does the Japanese N4s compare in terms of sound, playability and overall quality...


Proud member of the Nuno Brigade!

Axes:
Davies 91 N4
Relic N4
Paduak 05 N4
1992 N2
2005 N1
2005 Black N1
Washburn Sonic w/Floyd
Washburn Sonic Tailpiece
Fender Japan Richie Kotzen Tele
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: patpend on June 20, 2007, 11:20:08 AM
Hi, lozzano
Tokai is one of the Japanese company that manufactures quality guitar.  They used to make good quality Strat and Les Paul type guitars back in the 80's and I believe even now.  They are famouse in Japan for making Aluminum guitars called Talbo (TOkai ALuminum BOdy).  You can find Tokai's HP here.

http://www2.wbs.ne.jp/~tokai/

As for the quality of MIJ N4s, they are also a quality guitar, similar to Ibanez, ESP or Caparison or any other Japan made guitars.  The neck is wider and thinner than the recent N4 USAs (I think it is also based on the Davies blueprint..)  All the hardwares and PU are the same as N4 USAs.  Its really a quality guitar.  Back in the 90s, MIJ N4 had other color and body material options as
1)  Alder
2)  Padauk Stain Alder
3)  Tabacco Sunburst (Sold as Kiko Loureiro model, with rear PU changed to SD Parallel axis)
4)  Alder Black
5)  Alder Metalic Purple
6)  Padauk

The only options available now are Alder and Padauk.  MIJ N4 Alder market price is around $1,100, whereas padauk is around $1,300.  Considering the price, I wouldnt consider as a budget guitar like China or Korean made.  N4 USA are sold as $1,800 for Alder and $2,200 for Padauk here.  Some people prefer MIJ N4s just because they are the same shape as Nuno's (Davies)

Oh, and unlike US made, it only comes with gig bag, not Hard case.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: patpend on June 20, 2007, 11:33:20 AM
Oh, by the way, if you are a Proud member of the Nuno Brigade, you should come visit Japan.

Cuz, you get a chance to see this in Hard Rock Cafe Yokohama, Japan

(http://kramerguitars.hp.infoseek.co.jp/N3_blog.jpg)
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: lozzano on June 20, 2007, 11:38:07 AM
Hey patpend, thank you very much for the information...Didn't know Tokai guitars compared to ESPs or Caparisons...[:0]

I was just reading on Wikipedia that Tokai is one of the best guitar brands in Japan and responsible for making great replicas of the best Gibson and Fender models both during the lawsuit period and recently as well...

I don't mind mine being a Japanese... after all I didn't spend too much money on it and being that it isn't unique I can do her whatever I want without feeling guilty I'm screwing an unrepeatable piece of art of whatsoever... I'm just kinda nervous to check it out by myself, play it and check how does it compare to my USA N4s.

I'll be looking forward to having a Davies as well, but if it doesn't come, this Japanese is great for me... after all I'm not Nuno and if it wasn't for kiyo jap I would ahve never ever thought mine wasn't USA-made.

BTW patpend if you are Japanese, arigato gozaimasu for the info !
[:)]

Proud member of the Nuno Brigade!

Axes:
Davies 91 N4
Relic N4
Paduak 05 N4
1992 N2
2005 N1
2005 Black N1
Washburn Sonic w/Floyd
Washburn Sonic Tailpiece
Fender Japan Richie Kotzen Tele
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: lozzano on June 20, 2007, 11:45:23 AM
Hey Patpend.. I was in Tokyo a year ago !!!!!

It's f**ki*' great !!!!! I wasn't in Yokohama though, but I was in Roppongi and I felt soooooo happy that after drinking a great Sapporo beer I looked upwards and there it was a Extreme-signed N1 from the Punchline tour (BTW, my fave Extreme release!!!)

Tokyo is great... I took some time to visit a couple times the area of musical instruments (Ochanomizu?) and you guys rock... everything about Tokyo was so nice.. excepting the prices and the humid weather that made me sweat and sweat during all the two weeks I was there...

Any other info from you, especially regarding Japanese N4s will be much appreciated !!!

Proud member of the Nuno Brigade!

Axes:
Davies 91 N4
Relic N4
Paduak 05 N4
1992 N2
2005 N1
2005 Black N1
Washburn Sonic w/Floyd
Washburn Sonic Tailpiece
Fender Japan Richie Kotzen Tele
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: patpend on June 20, 2007, 12:10:42 PM
Hi lozzano
Oh, yeah!  You've been to Japan and guess you remembered all the places you went correctly.  Yes, Roppongi is the place to drink and Ochanomizu is the place for guitars!!

Oh, by the way, I was looking at your N4 closely, and found one feature that is different from MIJ N4.  That is the slit between the front PU and Neck End, which enables you to slot in the hex wrench for truss rod adjustment.  N4 USA all has this feature, but MIJ N4 dont have.  I have never seen a single MIJ N4 with this slit, and this is also one of the feature to distinguish between USA and Japan made.

Did you drill a slit by yourself?
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: lozzano on June 20, 2007, 12:29:29 PM
Patpend.. I never drilled anything and actually I haven't even played or touched my guitar !!!!!

I just bought it off Ebay about a year ago from a guy who used to sold a lot of great N4s around that time... he never knew what kind of N4 was his.. he only was sure it was one of the earliest (davies) as it had the backplates and the jack plate like a Davies...

When I asked Davies about my guitar being one of his, he told me it should have a serial number somewhere as chances might be that it could be a prototype... anyway I just hope I could have it here in Mexico soon to play it.. regardless its nationality... it might as well be a Japanese proto.. I don't know



Proud member of the Nuno Brigade!

Axes:
Davies 91 N4
Relic N4
Paduak 05 N4
1992 N2
2005 N1
2005 Black N1
Washburn Sonic w/Floyd
Washburn Sonic Tailpiece
Fender Japan Richie Kotzen Tele
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Riffrob on June 20, 2007, 01:34:20 PM
It's really amazing to see all of your N4 photos and I do have to admit having a serious affinity for the Davies N4s..here's just one photo of mine....it reeks of tone [8)]

   http://rapidshare.com/files/38371769/Bob_s_1992_N4_with_Doug_Aldrich_pup.jpg.html
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: crazee4nuno on June 20, 2007, 03:43:25 PM
quote:
Originally posted by kiyo_jap
Oh sorry
I'm sorry. It was thought that the pic was your N4.
Is there a pic of your DAVIES?
I would like you to show it by all means. [;)]

91'N4 Alder
94'N4 Padauk
P4 TB
CT5 CS



The picture that you looked at with the 2 N4's... the one on the left is lozzano's and the one on the right is mine. Here is mine... it was built by Davies, but it's made with a Grover Jackson body and other parts that Washburn sent to Davies.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/crazee4nuno/Guitars/fa4fa182.jpg)

Proud member of the Nuno Brigade

'91 natural alder N4
'93 paddy stained N2
'95 black N1
'04 mahogany (Mourning Widows) N4
'05 creme N5
EA22 Nuno Bettencourt Platinum Edition acoustic
2 black P2's
Washburn WG 7 string (black)
Fernandes limited korina Ravelle (yellow)
Peavey Vandenberg (red wine color)
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: crazee4nuno on June 20, 2007, 03:48:34 PM
Skee... the slope is solid wood just like any other Davies... it must be the flash and the finish is peeling right there where the patent numbers are, so that may be why it looks weird too. But it's part of the fin, one solid piece.

Proud member of the Nuno Brigade

'91 natural alder N4
'93 paddy stained N2
'95 black N1
'04 mahogany (Mourning Widows) N4
'05 creme N5
EA22 Nuno Bettencourt Platinum Edition acoustic
2 black P2's
Washburn WG 7 string (black)
Fernandes limited korina Ravelle (yellow)
Peavey Vandenberg (red wine color)
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: crazee4nuno on June 20, 2007, 04:39:13 PM
quote:
Originally posted by patpend

For those who wants to know more about the MIJ N4, here is what I know.
MIJ N4 was introduced around '91.  Officially liscensed from Washburn, Tokai is the manufacturer of this guitar.  When Tokai signed the liscense contract with Washburn around '91, the blueprint of N4 was also given to Tokai.  And that blueprint is Davies N4.  that is why, MIJ N4 is exactly the same as Davies, because it is based on the same blueprint.  Over the years, MIJ N4 has done few minor changes, some of such changes are, the neck profile,  nut was changed from through the neck type to screw in type...but basic features remain unchanged.



I was never aware the Japanese N4 went all the way back to 1991... I never heard of them until a few years ago. Are they numbered in any way as far as a serial?
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Riffrob on June 21, 2007, 11:16:01 AM
I only now wish she had the OFR in her instead...:)

(http:// http://rapidshare.com/files/38538678/Bob_s_1992_N4_with_Doug_Aldrich_pickup.jpg)

Hmmm...I can't seem how to post the picture the way WebGuy describes...could some one help me out ? :)

   http://rapidshare.com/files/38538678/Bob_s_1992_N4_with_Doug_Aldrich_pickup.jpg.html
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: ZeGlobox on June 23, 2007, 04:01:03 PM

Another little gift to all Nuno fans [:D]
http://n4ever.free.fr/Tracks/BackTrack_Suzy.mp3


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Member of the Nuno Brigade :-)
2006 relic N4, 2006 Paddy N4, 1993 Padauk N4 ...and the most beatiful 1991-Davies' N4 of all times
http://www.washburn.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9665

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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: FURNISHEDSOUL on June 23, 2007, 10:19:18 PM
here are a few pics of my guitars. 91 alder N4, 95 Padauk N4, not sure what year N2
(http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/7532/guitarsiz4.th.jpg) (http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?image=guitarsiz4.jpg)
(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/6650/91n4yu2.th.jpg) (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=91n4yu2.jpg)
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: FURNISHEDSOUL on June 23, 2007, 10:21:13 PM
im not too good at the picture thing here any tips?
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: raf300 on June 24, 2007, 04:02:28 AM
Hey FURNISHEDSOUL

What the neck like on the N2 compared to the N4?

 

Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: ZeGlobox on June 24, 2007, 05:48:53 AM

the 91 is, indeed, a Davies :-)

to post the pictures, simply select the direct link to image and put it between [_img_] (without the '_'s )

(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/6650/91n4yu2.jpg)
(http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/7532/guitarsiz4.jpg)




----
Member of the Nuno Brigade :-)
2006 relic N4, 2006 Paddy N4, 1993 Padauk N4 ...and the most beatiful 1991-Davies' N4 of all times
http://www.washburn.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9665

************************
http://n4ever.free.fr IS NOW IN ENGLISH
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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Riffrob on June 24, 2007, 10:06:30 AM
Thanks for the heads up, man....let's see if this works...

(http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/8060/bobs1992n4withdougaldritx8.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: FURNISHEDSOUL on June 24, 2007, 10:17:31 AM
hey raf 300
well the N2's neck feels different than the N4 but its not bad it still plays good. i use that guitar for a drop D.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: FURNISHEDSOUL on June 24, 2007, 10:21:31 AM
hey zeglowbox
thanks for reposting my pics
ill give that a shot soon  i need to take some clearer pictures.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: FURNISHEDSOUL on June 24, 2007, 10:28:36 AM
ok here i go again
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/2379/91n4yc0.jpg
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/3320/91n4backzp6.jpg
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: crazee4nuno on June 24, 2007, 03:19:23 PM
For posting pix, you have to use an IMG code, just type it like this, but without the spaces after the IMG's...
[IMG ]link to picture here[/IMG ]  
I use Photobucket.com to host pix, it gives you the IMG link to copy right under the pix... you just copy it and then post it...just makes it easier.

FURNISHEDSOUL... the first number of the serial on your N2 will tell you what year it is, like if it's a 3... it would be a '93, etc. If it was made after 2000, the first number will be a 0 and the second number will indicate what year after 2000.

Proud member of the Nuno Brigade

'91 natural alder N4
'93 paddy stained N2
'95 black N1
'04 mahogany (Mourning Widows) N4
'05 creme N5
EA22 Nuno Bettencourt Platinum Edition acoustic
2 black P2's
Washburn WG 7 string (black)
Fernandes limited korina Ravelle (yellow)
Peavey Vandenberg (red wine color)
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: stereodevil on June 25, 2007, 10:38:51 AM
Smoking!

quote:
Originally posted by ZeGlobox


By the way.. Lozzano, we were talking about Bill & Becky L500s...
Well... Throw an ear at that L500-XL screaming :

http://n4ever.free.fr/Tracks/GTFO_Solo.mp3

That's my Davies with its Bill & Becky L500-XL plugged into my ADA MP1 (Using Nuno's pornograffitti patch [:D] )

... and here's a little gift (just did it, still hot !!):
http://n4ever.free.fr/Tracks/BackTrack_GTFO.mp3



----
Member of the Nuno Brigade :-)
2006 relic N4, 2006 Paddy N4, 1993 Padauk N4 ...and the most beatiful 1991-Davies' N4 of all times
http://www.washburn.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9665

************************
http://n4ever.free.fr IS NOW IN ENGLISH
************************

Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: ZeGlobox on June 26, 2007, 03:03:22 AM
quote:
Originally posted by stereodevil

Smoking!

quote:
Originally posted by ZeGlobox


By the way.. Lozzano, we were talking about Bill & Becky L500s...
Well... Throw an ear at that L500-XL screaming :

http://n4ever.free.fr/Tracks/GTFO_Solo.mp3

That's my Davies with its Bill & Becky L500-XL plugged into my ADA MP1 (Using Nuno's pornograffitti patch [:D] )

... and here's a little gift (just did it, still hot !!):
http://n4ever.free.fr/Tracks/BackTrack_GTFO.mp3





---Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies.



[:D]
some more to come.. check that directory often

http://n4ever.free.fr/Tracks/


----
Member of the Nuno Brigade :-)
2006 relic N4, 2006 Paddy N4, 1993 Padauk N4 ...and the most beatiful 1991-Davies' N4 of all times
http://www.washburn.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9665

************************
http://n4ever.free.fr IS NOW IN ENGLISH
************************
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Riffrob on June 27, 2007, 07:48:24 PM
Crazee4nuno...man, that '91 Davies is sweet.  Did you ever replace the bridge pickup with a Bill&Becky one?  Oh and how cool is 'Big Wreck' still? [:)]
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: crazee4nuno on June 28, 2007, 04:03:26 PM
Currently there is no bridge pickup in my N4. I have a Bill & Becky BL for it... just gotta put it in sometime. Big Wreck is still damn cool!!

Proud member of the Nuno Brigade

'91 natural alder N4
'93 paddy stained N2
'95 black N1
'04 mahogany (Mourning Widows) N4
'05 creme N5
EA22 Nuno Bettencourt Platinum Edition acoustic
2 black P2's
Washburn WG 7 string (black)
Fernandes limited korina Ravelle (yellow)
Peavey Vandenberg (red wine color)
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Mavric487 on June 29, 2007, 12:20:00 AM
Nice Tele, dude...

And to everyone else, them's some beautiful N4's...


Z
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Mavric487 on June 29, 2007, 12:24:09 AM
Also,


Big Wreck rules...

Z
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Riffrob on June 29, 2007, 11:22:00 AM
Been thinking about replacing the Kahler Steeler with the OFR..not sure if I should or not...I'd only do it for the seemingly better way the bar on the OFR attaches to the trem block as the Kahler is screw-in type.  What's your guys's take on this?  Is the bar in the OFR better?
  Btw...Pocupine Tree is really great too...
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: ZeGlobox on July 03, 2007, 02:57:20 PM
Just saw Nuno yesterday in Paris... awesome gig :-)

Check that out :
http://n4ever.free.fr/Trabendo/



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http://www.washburn.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9665

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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: nl_ffx on July 16, 2007, 02:49:46 PM
Hi guys,


Just have to show you all my black 1991 N4 (only 1 of 6 made) and 2x signed 1991 alder N4.

Enjoy! [:D]
Greetings,
Dennis

(http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-VQY83IFV.jpg)(http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-ELTFVRH6.jpg)
(http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-6WNI4XMY.jpg)(http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-4LCSOSUC.jpg)
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: crazee4nuno on September 07, 2007, 03:41:51 PM
I got a Davies N4 today. So now I have a genuine Davies, a transitional Davies and my friends Japanese N4, which is built just like a Davies. I have all 3 to compare, and the winner is... the Japanese N4, hands down... it has the best build... and the transitional comes in second. Very disappointed with the genuine Davies... nothing great about it at all that would make it better than the other two. The neck is a little thinner than Washburn's, but not a big enough difference to write home about. I'm beginning to think this whole Davies thing is a bunch of hype... not that it's not a great guitar, but it's no better than Washburn's or the Japanese IMO. I will most likely sell this Davies.

Proud member of the Nuno Brigade

'91 natural alder N4
'93 paddy stained N2
'95 black N1
'04 mahogany (Mourning Widows) N4
'05 creme N5
EA22 Nuno Bettencourt Platinum Edition acoustic
2 black P2's
Washburn WG 7 string (black)
Fernandes limited korina Ravelle (yellow)
Peavey Vandenberg (red wine color)
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Chaos Rex on September 07, 2007, 03:52:38 PM
Oh was it you who out bid me on ebay for that 92? If you're gonna sell the Davies you better talk to me first.

And for Skee and Glo....bite your tongue for that blasphemous talk.

Founding Member of the Nuno Brigade
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: crazee4nuno on September 07, 2007, 05:24:33 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Chaos Rex

Oh was it you who out bid me on ebay for that 92?



That would be me... I nabbed it. I have to wait a few days and re-think if I want to sell it... cuz I'm in a real crappy mood and not thinking straight right now. But you'll be the first to know if I do sell.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Chaos Rex on September 07, 2007, 05:59:30 PM
So what's your analysis of the differences between the 92 and Lozzano's?

Founding Member of the Nuno Brigade
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: crazee4nuno on September 07, 2007, 08:49:26 PM
As far as looks, weight, size, contour of the body, and alder used, they are pretty much exact... can't tell a difference looking at them side by side. I will have to compare more later when I play the 92 as it's not playable right now... it needs a lot of adjusting, including the truss rod. I think the neck on the 92 might be slightly thinner than the Japanese, but it's so close, it's really hard to tell. Overall, the Japanese is built better.

Proud member of the Nuno Brigade

'91 natural alder N4
'93 paddy stained N2
'95 black N1
'04 mahogany (Mourning Widows) N4
'05 creme N5
EA22 Nuno Bettencourt Platinum Edition acoustic
2 black P2's
Washburn WG 7 string (black)
Fernandes limited korina Ravelle (yellow)
Peavey Vandenberg (red wine color)
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: cravenuno on September 08, 2007, 01:25:42 PM
I was just outbid on that 92 Davies too... the guy didn't even know he had a Davies! Anyway i'm in the process of buying a MIJ davies at the moment. I'm in australia so its a little easier for me to get my hands on. Very intersting to hear the response about the jap N4's & the USA N4's. Could japenese luthiers be better than US ones perhaps?
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Chaos Rex on September 08, 2007, 08:07:37 PM
Well a few of us have concluded that Lozzano's N4 is indeed a Davies and not a MIJ. This conclusion is because of a few characteristics.

#1. The MIJ N4's don't have the screws in the back of the neck which hold the locking nut in place. The Davies do. #2. The back of the MIJ N4's headstock comes suddenly flat while the Davies blends more into the neck.
#3. The MIJ N4's truss rod adjustment routing completely hidden from view. The Davies is quite visible between the fingerboard and neck pick-up.

But if Crazee and Lozzano feel they both got jipped, I'll buy them both. I still don't have a Davies due to bad timing and a certain member of the Nuno Brigade who was more on the ball than I. And I still want two so I can put an L500R in the neck of one and call it an N3.

Founding Member of the Nuno Brigade
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: crazee4nuno on September 09, 2007, 07:48:36 AM
I still think Lozzano's is a MIJ... it does not have made in the USA anywhere on it and a Davies would definitely have that. His having the bolt through nut might just be an earlier one or some type of proto... all those characteristics could be the earlier ones and then changed over the years. It also has the same red numbering as the MIJ's and doesn't have a serial number... the Washburn decal on it is exactly like the MIJ... it has bold lettering just like the MIJ, unlike any of the USA's. And we can't say we were jipped on that one, cuz the guy never said it was a Davies and the guy that sold it knows N4's very well... he definitely would've known it was a Davies and would've said so in the ad and probably wouldn't have let it go at the price it did being in mint condition. There's no doubt in my mind, it's a MIJ.

Cravenuno... The Japanese make excellent guitars. Some guy on here gave us some info on the MIJ and told us who the luthier is and he's one of Japan's best... being no surprise to me seeing the quality of the MIJ.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: cravenuno on September 09, 2007, 10:23:16 AM
I agree crazee4nuno that Japan makes excellent guitars... i love the N4 design but unfortunately they are not all made with equal excellence. I bought an N4 Relic (or Vintage as known here in Oz) a few months ago and had to get rid of it as the workmanship on it was extremely poor which really was disappointing. Washburn have some good years and some bad years for manufacturing guitars. When i heard that the N4 was being made in Japan and i saw them i was very excited.. now there is the best designed guitar the N4 with excellent craftmanship by the Japanese luthiers. Can't wait to get my MIJ N4 davies design and being able to stop living on ebay looking for a 'Davies 91' that wouldn't be in as good condition as a new MIJ N4 for less money. I love this guitar just wish Washburn would pull their finger out and put some quality back into their workmanship.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Chaos Rex on September 09, 2007, 02:44:07 PM
quote:
Originally posted by crazee4nuno

it does not have made in the USA anywhere on it and a Davies would definitely have that. His having the bolt through nut might just be an earlier one or some type of proto... all those characteristics could be the earlier ones and then changed over the years. It also has the same red numbering as the MIJ's and doesn't have a serial number... the Washburn decal on it is exactly like the MIJ... it has bold lettering just like the MIJ, unlike any of the USA's.



Hmmm, more pieces to the puzzle.

Founding Member of the Nuno Brigade
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on September 09, 2007, 08:16:40 PM
Indeed.

I now must get my hands on an MIJ N4 and compare for myself.

Oh, and I may be preaching to the choir, but, don't confuse build nuances with lesser build quality.  Two hand-made N4s will have their differences when examined side by side.  But, the sound a feel are unmistakable. ; )

Davies rocks....and, maybe MIJ does too...who knows?

Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: crazee4nuno on September 10, 2007, 04:26:09 AM
I know they all have their differences and they don't really affect the quality, but I don't think a gap this size in the neck joint is acceptable. The neck joint should be as tight as possible. I know a lot have some gapping and that's normal being hand made, they are rarely perfect, but this is too much. And don't get me wrong, I don't think a Davies is poor quality by a long shot, although I am disappointed with this one. I think Davies guitars are excellent, but the MIJ I have here is perfect... like more care and detail went into it. The wiring job is neat and clean and everything is fit perfectly together and with top quality parts... everything on this MIJ is really nice and clean... not a single mistake on it.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/crazee4nuno/Guitars/Picture004.jpg)
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on September 10, 2007, 07:35:24 PM
Wow, Anne...I wasn't expecting to see a gap like that...maybe it was involved in a fender-bender with the previous owner.  I would check the alignment and also see if the frame is straignt....maybe even get the timing belt changed....and the water pump too while you're at it...is it buring oil? :) (all of that was sooo much funnier in my head than it appears in type)

Seriously though, I surprised it left the shop like that...geesh.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: crazee4nuno on September 10, 2007, 09:58:29 PM
It may have been funnier in your head, but I still thought it was funny :p I was really taken back by this gap. I thought of the previous owner taking the neck off and doing something to it and my friend Lozzano suggested the same. But what can you really do to it to cause a gap like that? When you take the neck off, it basically goes back into the same spot exactly the same. I took the neck off my 91 and tore some of the wood off doing so and when I put it back... there was a very slight gap that wasn't there before, but not like this and there's no wood torn off this 92. I think it's the way it originally came and I'm surprised too that it left the shop like that. I'm gonna see if there's anything to make it a tighter fit. here's some more pix...

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/crazee4nuno/Picture011.jpg)
MIJ on the left, 92 middle, 91 transitional on right.
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/crazee4nuno/Picture006.jpg)


Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: crazee4nuno on September 14, 2007, 03:06:52 PM
Viola, I fixed it... no gap now :)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/crazee4nuno/Guitars/N4Neck002.jpg)

Proud member of the Nuno Brigade

'91 natural alder N4
'93 paddy stained N2
'95 black N1
'04 mahogany (Mourning Widows) N4
'05 creme N5
EA22 Nuno Bettencourt Platinum Edition acoustic
2 black P2's
Washburn WG 7 string (black)
Fernandes limited korina Ravelle (yellow)
Peavey Vandenberg (red wine color)
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Chaos Rex on September 14, 2007, 04:06:58 PM
Nice one. Should I ask what voodoo you used to fix it?

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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: crazee4nuno on September 14, 2007, 04:45:25 PM
I found the neckjoint had some give in it, so I took the neck off and aligned it straight, which moved the gap inside the neckjoint in the back... packed the gap with wet paper, warping the wood out just where it was needed to fill out the gap... sanded it smooth and now it's a nice tight fit. Very easy fix.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: lozzano on September 14, 2007, 11:23:16 PM
Hey you all guys, nice to see this thread has been reactivated.. just to let you know, my name (last name actually) is Lozzano and not Lorenzo...

I'm still laughing for the confusion, and I wanna keep my last name instead of changing it for Lorenzo. My real name is Roberto Lozzano in case you wanted to know.

Anyway... so many interesting opinions, standpoints and discoveries. I just wish somebody at Washburn could have some time to take a look into these kind of threads. Their help would be indeed very helpful.

Has anyone tried to send out this information to Stephen Davies? The man must be very busy, but it might be worth the try. As far as I know he has always been very kind and quickly identifying his guitars. Just an idea.



Proud member of the Nuno Brigade!

Axes:
Davies 91 N4
Relic N4
Paduak 05 N4
1992 N2
2005 N1
2005 Black N1
Washburn Sonic w/Floyd
Washburn Sonic Tailpiece
Fender Japan Richie Kotzen Tele
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on September 17, 2007, 08:06:15 PM
Ahh, you made the wood swell from being wet.  Sounds like a luthier's trick : )  I know you can repair minor dings that way.  I'm assuming you removed the paper, yes?  Nicely done.  How does she sound/feel now?  Improved sustain? (I think it would be a very slight improvement if any).

Looks like a proper Davies....with a crazee-mod. : )
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Chaos Rex on September 17, 2007, 10:42:22 PM
quote:
Originally posted by lozzano

Hey you all guys, nice to see this thread has been reactivated.. just to let you know, my name (last name actually) is Lozzano and not Lorenzo...

I'm still laughing for the confusion, and I wanna keep my last name instead of changing it for Lorenzo. My real name is Roberto Lozzano in case you wanted to know.

Proud member of the Nuno Brigade!




What? Lozzano, who called you Lorenzo...boy some people just don't have the common decency to get another person's name right. What is this world coming to?

Founding Member of the Nuno Brigade
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: crazee4nuno on September 18, 2007, 04:50:46 PM
Yes, I removed the paper :p I knew too that you can repair minor dings that way, so I figured it would work for this and it did. I still haven't played it yet as it needs some adjustments. And even though I didn't hear the sustain to begin with, I am positive it probably is an improvement, cuz it probably would've lost some sustain from that gap and or being loose the way it was. I didn't want to adjust the truss rod until I fixed the neckjoint and I haven't done it yet cuz I am sick and don't feel like doing anything with it, but I'll get to it soon and let you all know how it sounds... that's if I don't break it :O, cuz I can't afford a real luthier. Don't worry, I really won't break it! I think I can manage a truss rod.

Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Chaos Rex on September 18, 2007, 06:29:58 PM
Dang it Crazee, why did you have to expose me like that. I was trying to play it off.

I think it's awesome what you did to the Davies. I hope that once you get it all set up it blows you away.

Founding Member of the Nuno Brigade
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: crazee4nuno on September 18, 2007, 06:49:35 PM
What the heck are you talking about Chaos... I didn't say anything :p
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Chaos Rex on September 18, 2007, 10:08:00 PM
What? Huh? Who's on first? What's on Second...who farted?

Founding Member of the Nuno Brigade
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: crazee4nuno on September 19, 2007, 03:26:44 PM
Nuno's on first, an N4 is on second and phew, excuse me, I'm sorry... I've been chewing on guitars with lead paint... it's giving me gas... I just can't stop farting!
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on October 16, 2007, 05:38:33 PM
Thought I'd give this baby a little bump : )

For those of you just joining us, we'd love to see your '91-'92 Davies N4...that is if you have one!  Post a pic or two...we love to drool...
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: db82000 on December 17, 2007, 07:05:57 PM
I don't have N4, but I do have a strat made by Stephen Davies when he lived in Eugene, OR.  I sent Stephen some pictures of it and he confirmed he did make it around 1984.  I bought it used in Eugene a few years ago.  Has anyone else seen any of his earlier guitars?  I am wondering what it is worth.
Stephen told me it was top of the line, has vintage dimarzio single coils and a koa top.  Here are a few pics.  I can say I have owned many Fender strats and this guitar sounds and plays much better.
If you know anything about this guitar or have seen any like it, please email me
danb541@comcast.net
I can't figure out how to add pictures, just email me if you want some pics and I wil lsend you some.  How do I add pics?
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on December 17, 2007, 07:26:58 PM
DBBBB -

I've seen a few of his earlier guitars...mostly Teles and scaled down strat-style guitar (similar to the N4).  Here's a link to his old site.  You'll see some of his creations.  (Oh, to get my hands on a Davies tele....)
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on December 18, 2007, 12:47:25 PM
Holy crap....I never posted the link.  I'm terribly sorry.  Maybe this will help you forgive me... http://www.seanet.com/~jsd/gtr_cat.html

Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: herlonguitar on December 23, 2007, 02:49:12 PM
for see my black Davies go to: www.myspace.com/herlon
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Nunobooyaa on December 29, 2007, 09:18:16 AM
Hey Boys an Girls! I'm new here and from england! Massive Nuno fan but I'm not mental or anything Just think he's an awesome musician. Anyway on the subject or Davis N4's if anyone's interested I have a the first N4 in production 000191 does anyone know the history of this guitar? Who owned it? I don't know how to put up pictures or I would sorry.

Laterz

P.S ZEGLOBOX I LOVE YOUR N4 MAN! HOW MUCH? hehe

[;)]
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on December 29, 2007, 05:29:55 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Nunobooyaa

I don't know how to put up pictures or I would sorry.

[;)]

Whatever!



My brain can't possibly process your questions until I can see pics....

You need to upload your pics to a host site, then you use the insert image button which will give you this [ img][/img ] .  In between the middle braces  ]right here[ , you paste the link or web address to your photo.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Nunobooyaa on December 30, 2007, 09:01:18 AM
Ah ok thanks Skee I'm a little IT retarded but I'll give it a try no promises though,

(http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.editAlbumPhoto&albumID=276266&imageID=27575760&MyToken=cc566323-6222-446d-b393-1b60c65b1c7a)

If this has'nt worked please just click the link bellow

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.editAlbumPhoto&albumID=276266&imageID=27575760&MyToken=cc566323-6222-446d-b393-1b60c65b1c7a
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Nunobooyaa on December 30, 2007, 09:12:55 AM
I did exactly what you said and it has'nt worked any idea why?
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on December 30, 2007, 09:48:17 PM
Make sure there are no spaces between the web link and the braces - these ~~~> ][

The other problem may be that you can't link directly to myspace pics.  What's your myspace id?
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Nunobooyaa on December 31, 2007, 04:25:59 AM
Ah I see! Silly me you know a upload site I can use? My myspace is: http://www.myspace.com/gregledingham

I'v got some songs of mine on there but the singing Is not good I don't have a good voice![:(]
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: lozzano on December 31, 2007, 10:15:01 AM
My guitars and I wish you a great, fu***n', fun and exciting New Year !!!!

I'm so glad this place gathered a lot of Washburn six-string savants. Take care!

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e64/lozzano/Axes/IMG_0100.jpg)
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on December 31, 2007, 10:26:07 AM
Greg - you can get a free account at www.flickr.com and upload your DETAILED :) pics there and then link them here.

Checked out your tunes, man....good stuff!  I can hear the Nuno influence.  Also, on I will wait..., I almost hear a little Trent Reznor in the verse : )

Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Nunobooyaa on December 31, 2007, 12:17:50 PM
Hey thats a very nice comment thanks skee! I'm creating my account and then I'll post this picture.

Hey Happy new year to everyone!
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Nunobooyaa on December 31, 2007, 12:44:47 PM
Here she is the first Davis N4 ever!

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2341/2152641892_2bb0c734c2.jpg?v=0)
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on December 31, 2007, 04:25:26 PM
More!! ; )  How about a pics of the headstock front and back, back of the guitar, etc....

Show that sucker off, man :)

Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Nunobooyaa on January 01, 2008, 09:08:43 AM
I would post more but unfortunitly I'm still on dielup so it takes ages!

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2186/2154756690_1edbcc83f6_b.jpg)
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: herlonguitar on January 02, 2008, 07:39:29 AM
Hey MAn! Very nice ur n4... but its 000191, the Davies is from 1989, u can see pics in this topic, ok!?
There´s some DAVIES 1989, not much!
 xcuse my f**k bad english!
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Nunobooyaa on January 03, 2008, 06:06:11 PM
I feel like a silly fool now
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: herlonguitar on January 07, 2008, 08:06:31 AM
Did u see the pics ???

But u have a magic guitar, very beautiful!

goods sound, ever, man!
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on January 08, 2008, 06:57:54 AM
Herlon - I'm nearly certain that Davies officially started building N4s in '91.  He was working with Nuno on prototypes prior to that (N3 anyone?), but from what I've been able to find out, he didn't start building production guitars until '91.  Nunobooyaa quite possibly has the first production N4.

Very nice Davies, btw. : )
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Nunobooyaa on January 17, 2008, 05:30:24 AM
Hey thanks for the support Skee! Hey BTW Were you or anyone here ever on the Nuno mourning widows Forum all those years ago? If so do you remember me? Greginajar?
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: ZeGlobox on January 17, 2008, 05:55:31 AM
quote:
Originally posted by skeesik

Herlon - I'm nearly certain that Davies officially started building N4s in '91.  He was working with Nuno on prototypes prior to that (N3 anyone?), but from what I've been able to find out, he didn't start building production guitars until '91.  Nunobooyaa quite possibly has the first production N4.

Very nice Davies, btw. : )

*skee



Actually.. no...
Davies started producting N4s at the end of 1990... I recall seeing some Davies being made in December 1990...

Some N4 necks have '1989' stamped on (From what I've seen, most japanese N4s have that 1989 stamp on the neck's hidden part, dunno why).. but that's definetly not the guitar's production year...
Of course, since Nuno's first N4 prototype was made in mid 1990 (when he decided to move the pickup selector to the horn, compared to the N3)...




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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: ZeGlobox on January 17, 2008, 05:58:25 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Nunobooyaa

Hey thanks for the support Skee! Hey BTW Were you or anyone here ever on the Nuno mourning widows Forum all those years ago? If so do you remember me? Greginajar?

Whatever!



Yours is actually the first Davies N4 done in 1991..
Even though it's not the first one, it's amazing enough, and it's a real collector for sure ! ;)


If I remember well... the very first 'Davies' had a one-piece body...

Nuno took almost all of them by the way !



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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: N6X on January 17, 2008, 08:58:54 PM
almost is right
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: N6X on January 17, 2008, 09:01:53 PM
quote:
Originally posted by N6X

almost is right



I put my 91' N4 on ebay if anybody is interested or just wants to take a look.

Alex
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: N6X on January 17, 2008, 09:03:27 PM

It is a one piece by the way.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: ZeGlobox on January 18, 2008, 01:26:53 AM
quote:
Originally posted by N6X


It is a one piece by the way.



for that price I expect the guitar to be delivered by Nuno himself !! [:D]

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2006 relic N4, 2006 Paddy N4, 1993 Padauk N4 ...and the most beatiful 1991-Davies' N4 of all times
http://www.washburn.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9665

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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Nunobooyaa on January 18, 2008, 09:30:47 AM
And for him to write and perform a song dedicated to me [:D]
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Chaos Rex on January 18, 2008, 10:30:31 AM
Considering the last Davies I saw (and bid on)on ebay a couple of months ago went for about 2300 and was in better condition and I'm pretty sure was also a one piece, I'd have to say good luck with that sale. Maybe there's another guy in Japan willing to pay that.



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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: ZeGlobox on January 18, 2008, 10:38:17 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Chaos Rex

Considering the last Davies I saw (and bid on)on ebay a couple of months ago went for about 2300 and was in better condition and I'm pretty sure was also a one piece, I'd have to say good luck with that sale. Maybe there's another guy in Japan willing to pay that.



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Last week, some guy paid 4000 euros ($5800) for a Korina.. and no, it's not the one who belonged to Nuno...So nothing surprises me anymore... ;)



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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Chaos Rex on January 18, 2008, 11:13:26 AM
Wow, I paid $5,000 for my Korina and my Mourning Windows N4EMNM together.

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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Nunobooyaa on January 19, 2008, 07:03:33 AM

But thats a korina! remember there was only correct me if I'm wrong 75 made? I think that puts it in a different category some how! I mean it's  got a flame maple quilt top bound edges and varnished and has gold hardware and each one is signed by Nuno come on!
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on January 19, 2008, 08:27:40 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Nunobooyaa

Hey thanks for the support Skee! Hey BTW Were you or anyone here ever on the Nuno mourning widows Forum all those years ago? If so do you remember me? Greginajar?

Whatever!




Hey, Greginajar!...yeah, I remember you from the old MW board.  Good to see you again : ) Funny how the same group keeps bumping into eachother.  Now, I wonder how many here were ever on the original Extreme News Group?  Heh..anyone remember news groups?
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: ZeGlobox on January 19, 2008, 09:16:58 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Nunobooyaa


But thats a korina! remember there was only correct me if I'm wrong 75 made? I think that puts it in a different category some how! I mean it's  got a flame maple quilt top bound edges and varnished and has gold hardware and each one is signed by Nuno come on!

Whatever!



There's been more than 75... At least I know another one that wasn't part of that 75 batch...
Anyway, I've got a N4E-MNM (the 'mourning widows'... Not the only one here ;-) )
100 of them, signed by Nuno too, and I paid $1850 for it !
It's in real mint condition also !


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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: ZeGlobox on January 19, 2008, 10:52:07 AM
oops.. doublepost [:I]
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Chaos Rex on January 19, 2008, 01:01:43 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Nunobooyaa


But thats a korina! remember there was only correct me if I'm wrong 75 made? I think that puts it in a different category some how! I mean it's  got a flame maple quilt top bound edges and varnished and has gold hardware and each one is signed by Nuno come on!

Whatever!



Original 75 Korinas did not have flamed maple tops or binding. They are solid Korina. You can see a pic of mine (#26) in my post N's of chaos.

There's quite a few of them in Japan.

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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Nunobooyaa on January 23, 2008, 01:52:06 PM
quote:
Originally posted by skeesik

quote:
Originally posted by Nunobooyaa

Hey thanks for the support Skee! Hey BTW Were you or anyone here ever on the Nuno mourning widows Forum all those years ago? If so do you remember me? Greginajar?




Hey, Greginajar!...yeah, I remember you from the old MW board.  Good to see you again : ) Funny how the same group keeps bumping into eachother.  Now, I wonder how many here were ever on the original Extreme News Group?  Heh..anyone remember news groups?

*skee



wow! Thats great you remember me! What was your nick name Skee? Lets do a post extreme news group reunite or somthing like that what do you think?
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on January 23, 2008, 08:03:50 PM
Yeah, it was (and still is) skee.  Well, skeesik to be exact.  

Actually, many of the old Extreme NG members and lurkers ended up on various other boards throughout the years, Mourning Widows, Population 1, Dramagods, Dramagodsfans, and now the official extreme board....which happens to be the old dramagodsfans board.  Have a look:  http://www.dramagodsfans.com  I'm still in touch with two old members of the news group and consider them very dear friends.

Good to see ya again, man!
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: RoCk On on January 25, 2008, 02:02:29 PM
these guitars are sooooooo beautiful
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on January 30, 2008, 12:00:23 PM
Hey, Compadre -

Nice addition to the thread...and welcome!
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: herlonguitar on February 05, 2008, 08:49:00 PM
Nunobooyaa, Skeesik...

Please, give-me some answers about this pic!!!

Is printed 1989 in neck!

http://www.washburn.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9741&whichpage=2

my davis is Black, i will post a picture
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: ZeGlobox on February 06, 2008, 09:53:54 AM
quote:
Originally posted by herlonguitar

Nunobooyaa, Skeesik...

Please, give-me some answers about this pic!!!

Is printed 1989 in neck!

http://www.washburn.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9741&whichpage=2

my davis is Black, i will post a picture



This is not the year.. this is some serial number...

I've seen a pic of the exact same thing with a number like 2217 stamped in red at the exact same location [:D]

From what I know, those are japanese N4s made in 91 using Davies blueprints...


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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: ZeGlobox on February 06, 2008, 10:03:29 AM
(http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/7899/img0221yr0.jpg)

I'm not 100% sure.. but I guess this N4 wasn't produced in 2219 ;)

By the way, Herlon, you should definetly post some pictures of your N4.. Especially the stephen's extended cutaway, and the back of the head.. cause if it has a xxx89 serial, then you're right...
If it doesn't have an engraved serial, then it's a Japanese N4 for sure !

As for the 1989 thingy.. once again, it's impossible !! Even Nuno didn't have the N4 when they started touring for Pornograffitti in 90 ! He started with his N1 and N2.. then got his N3 .. and later in the year, had his first N4 !!! So it's plain impossible to have a 1989 N4.. that's a fact !

Even if yours was a super exclusive prototype, it wouldn't have the pickup selector located at the horn.

By the way.. just to proove it's not a 1989 neck :
simply look at the SEC on your '1989' picture : There's the patent number !!! Which is also a distinctive mark of a japanese N4 ! (Patent wasn't finished until early 92 I think... ) ;)
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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: lozzano on February 06, 2008, 07:26:22 PM
Same thing happened to me if anyone here remember... I was 99.9% sure that my guitar was a Davies, though it didn't have any serial number nor Made in USA legend and voilá ! It is a Japanese one...

I wouldn't disappoint if it was a Japanese, as those axes seem to keep up with the best N4s. However, you might not have a Davies one and you absolutely can't have a Nuno guitar made in 1989.

Hi to everyone in the Nuno Brigade...
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: herlonguitar on February 08, 2008, 11:35:22 AM

 ZeGlobox,

  The picture of neck 1989 are not mine!!! I founf it in here, forum.

  Yes, now i understand!

   My Guitar is like your davies, the another davies pictured in here, but the mine, is black! i will, post a pic.

excuse my bad english
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: ZeGlobox on February 08, 2008, 11:50:03 AM
quote:
Originally posted by herlonguitar


 ZeGlobox,

  The picture of neck 1989 are not mine!!! I founf it in here, forum.

  Yes, now i understand!

   My Guitar is like your davies, the another davies pictured in here, but the mine, is black! i will, post a pic.

excuse my bad english



oh ok !!

Please post the stephen's part and the back of the head, we'll check that for good :)



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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Nunobooyaa on February 09, 2008, 03:48:40 PM
quote:
Originally posted by lozzano

Same thing happened to me if anyone here remember... I was 99.9% sure that my guitar was a Davies, though it didn't have any serial number nor Made in USA legend and voilá ! It is a Japanese one...

I wouldn't disappoint if it was a Japanese, as those axes seem to keep up with the best N4s. However, you might not have a Davies one and you absolutely can't have a Nuno guitar made in 1989.

Hi to everyone in the Nuno Brigade...

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Davies 91 N4 (which turned out to be a MIJ N4!)
Relic N4
Paduak 05 N4
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Yes your correct as In 1989 Nuno was using his N2 and N3 and that weird Kramer which he attacked with a hacksaw

I got the first one N4 hehe! [;)]
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on February 19, 2008, 07:08:06 AM
You know, the more digging I do, I'm starting to believe that his N2 was actually a schecter body, stripped of the finish (obviously) with a reverse headstock Warmoth neck.  The black guitar, affectionately known as his N1 look to be a Jackson body, shaved down on one side with a fender-style warmoth neck.  I've seen this same guitar body sporting the traditional poke-your-eye-out Jackson headsotck.

Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: ZeGlobox on February 20, 2008, 03:17:45 AM
Yep... I guess Nuno's collaboration with Washburn must have been the N3 then...
Nunobooyaa : Yeah.. you got the first N4 ever made ... in 1991 ;-) LOL

By the way : Is there on the forum, someone owning a 1990 Davies ? Those are pretty rare... I've seen only one.




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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Yoshi Rox on February 20, 2008, 09:09:33 PM
Here is my Davies...
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l212/yoshi73/DSC01007.jpg)
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l212/yoshi73/DSC01005.jpg)
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l212/yoshi73/DSC01003.jpg)
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Chaos Rex on February 21, 2008, 12:42:43 AM
Nice one Yoshi, what kind of pick-ups do you have in it?


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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Yoshi Rox on February 21, 2008, 09:07:26 AM
Thanks Chaos.  Both are custom shop seymour duncnans.  The bridge is  skunkbucker and the neck is s-deco alnico 2.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Nunobooyaa on February 21, 2008, 10:17:13 AM
Beautiful Yoshi! How much how much how much? lol
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Yoshi Rox on February 21, 2008, 11:41:07 AM
Hey Boo.  Sorry, she is not up for grabs.[:p]
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: herlonguitar on February 25, 2008, 06:47:28 PM
How I must to Do for post the pictures? i cant do that...
Anyboby can show me how i can post pics ???
xcuse my bad english!
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: ZeGlobox on February 26, 2008, 06:30:43 AM
try here :
http://www.imageshack.us
Upload your picture, then copy the 'Direct link to image' and paste it between [_img] and [_/img] (no space between your link and the ']' and the '[') ... I added a '_' before img so that you could see the actual commands (otherwise, it showed up as a broken image link ;-) )


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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: ZeGlobox on March 02, 2008, 04:02:10 PM
Well.. unfortunately.. we can't see much :-(
The SEC has been sanded .. not printing
And the back of the head is too small / blurry on the picture to see the serial number ...

So basically, it's either a davies or a japanese model ;)


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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on March 02, 2008, 08:22:58 PM
The body looks very much like a Davies.  Has all the earmarks I've noted in previous posts.  But, Glo is right....a clear pic of the serial number will help.  Also, a photo of the inside of the control cavity.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: JasonK on March 02, 2008, 09:40:48 PM
Are my eyes playing tricks on me, or is the notch between the neck humbucker cavity and the neck pocket missing?  --Jason
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on March 04, 2008, 06:41:37 AM
Nice catch, Jason.  I don't see it either.  It may be covered up by the fret board.  I need to go and look through all my photos for another example of a body with no notch or trench extending from the neck to the neck pup pocket.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: ZeGlobox on March 04, 2008, 08:32:57 AM
this one on ebay has that too.. looks like the fretboard is a little longer, and the neck pup might be a little closer to the neck than usual :

(http://i16.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/da/d4/beb1_1.JPG)


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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: deblaketx on March 05, 2008, 08:29:27 AM
This guitar loos like a black davies model. I looks like it has the slant feature on the Cutaway and it has a Kahler. The body has to be cut specifically for that bridge; you can't change the block on the back of it.
I could not find this on Ebay, maybe it sold already? Did it have a Buy it now?
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: deblaketx on March 05, 2008, 09:04:35 AM
Question for the group?
On the Davies N4, has anyone else had a little piece of holding the bridge block with 2 screws and glue. That little peice of wood ensures the bridge is not floating, making it harder to set up and tune. I have seen this on 2 Davies N4s; mine and another one I almost owned about 6 years ago, but have not seen it on another in all the picturesd on the web. Did some people find that odd and thought it was a personal addition from the previous owner and took it off?
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: herlonguitar on March 05, 2008, 02:45:36 PM
ZeGoblox...
This are not a Japonese model, its was sold in USA a long time ago, 1991/1992 i presume. the serial number was removed together with the paint, my luthier removed the paint.

so.. i will post a new picks!
In true, i prefer the news model N4, i had one too!
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: ZeGlobox on March 06, 2008, 04:04:13 AM
quote:
Originally posted by herlonguitar

ZeGoblox...
This are not a Japonese model, its was sold in USA a long time ago, 1991/1992 i presume. the serial number was removed together with the paint, when my neck was broken, the my luthier removed the paint for to glue the neck.
Its neck broken twice!



Don't worry.. I said 'japanese' just because we couldn't see the serial.. But yeah, I guess that's a real Davies.. and a rare one since I heard there were only 6 of them made in black !
Too bad about the neck though..

quote:

so.. i will post a new picks!
In true, i prefer the news model N4, i had one too!



Which one ?


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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: miks on April 15, 2008, 09:44:17 PM
Hi guys! First post here.

I found this Forum by accident and wanted to get some of your advice. This is a guitar I've owned since 93. I played it like crazy for 7 years thinking there was something wrong with my N4 (different trussrod.. shape seemed different... different floyd (khaler)). Thing is I only realized recently (2 years ago) at a washburn clinic that my N4 was special. One of the product managers confirmed that it was one of the early ones. Its not until today that I learned that there was such a thing as a Davies N4. So now im so excited to find out if my N4 is one!

Anyway here are some pics

(http://lh5.ggpht.com/mikel.antunez/SAL0Tv3ITLI/AAAAAAAAAUE/SZWBxVyuJsk/DSC_0163.JPG)

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/mikel.antunez/SAL0UP3ITMI/AAAAAAAAAUM/t-OfANSw7rQ/DSC_0149.JPG)

Will post better ones later.
As for the details
its a 92 serial (i think)
Tshape cavity in the back
Pat pending on the cutaway
Sloped SEC
Khaler hardware
and the neck carve is slimmer than regular n4's.

:D
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on April 16, 2008, 09:29:35 AM
Hey, Miks - Nice Davies!  Would love to know what the serial # is and it'd be cool to see additional pics.  Have a look at the first post in this thread for what we like to see!

Thanks for sharing [8D]
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: miks on April 16, 2008, 11:40:06 AM
Here we go its my pic barrage!

SN is 916710

And here are the pics. :)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/miks696/IMG_1123.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/miks696/IMG_1124.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/miks696/IMG_1125.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/miks696/IMG_1126.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/miks696/IMG_1127.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/miks696/IMG_1128.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/miks696/IMG_1131.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/miks696/IMG_1132.jpg)
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on April 16, 2008, 11:53:27 AM
Very, nice Miks.  You have a 1991 Davies, my friend!  Welcome to the board ; )
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Calmante on April 16, 2008, 06:26:14 PM
Freakin' Sweet.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: ZeGlobox on April 17, 2008, 02:20:05 AM
a true relic ;)



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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Chaos Rex on April 30, 2008, 11:58:54 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Chaos Rex

I don't know how many there are, but I'm going to add 2 of them to my collection. (I'm going to turn one of them into an N3.)

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And here they are.

(http://www.soulofchaos.com/hostedimgs/Davies/2f.jpg)
(http://www.soulofchaos.com/hostedimgs/Davies/double%20ought%20ff.jpg)
(http://www.soulofchaos.com/hostedimgs/Davies/Double%20Ought%20f.jpg)
(http://www.soulofchaos.com/hostedimgs/Davies/double%20ought%20fb.jpg)
(http://www.soulofchaos.com/hostedimgs/Davies/One%20Eye%20ff.jpg)
(http://www.soulofchaos.com/hostedimgs/Davies/One%20Eye%20f.jpg)
(http://www.soulofchaos.com/hostedimgs/Davies/One%20Eye%20fb.jpg)
(http://www.soulofchaos.com/hostedimgs/Davies/One%20Eye%20b.jpg)

Sorry for the inconsistency of lighting.

You may be looking and these and asking Chaos oh mighty King...is that..that one on the right...is that a...one piece?!?!

My answer to you good subjects is...Why yes...yes it is a one piece and in almost mint condition!!!

Now I don't know if I'll turn one of these into an N3. As a matter of fact I most likely will not. What I will do is replace those BL USA's.

The one the left I call Double Ought on account of its serial which starts with 00. That one will get the B&B L500-XL that I've had for about a year. The one piece which I've dubbed...One Eye will get a B&B L500-L (from one of my 01 Maple on Mahogany N4's).

Double Ought is very likely to have a refinish on account that it's dirty...

One Eye, is pretty darn clean. I may clean up the back of the neck a bit.

Both guitars play amazing. Everything on them is nice in solid though Double Ought does have a neck joint which might have a tad disfigurement due to dehydration I suspect. Seems only cosmetic as playing it is still very nice.

Anyway, finally I'm in the Davies club, or as I've called it the Davies Division of the Nuno Brigade.

Yeah Baby...Yeah...

Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on May 01, 2008, 10:26:18 AM
Well, it's about time.  Rex, those are beauts!  Not too sure about the Buck Rogers bed sheet/backdrop though...[:D]

Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Chaos Rex on May 01, 2008, 10:31:47 AM
What's wrong with Buck Rogers?
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on May 02, 2008, 12:16:08 PM
Oh, Buck is fine..but, his sheets could be used as a solar array ; )
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: herlonguitar on May 07, 2008, 02:20:33 AM
Amazing guitar, guys!
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: cnotold on May 10, 2008, 10:28:19 AM
I might chime in as well [:D]

(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll169/cnotold/P1020360.jpg)
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll169/cnotold/P1020371.jpg)
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll169/cnotold/P1020373.jpg)
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll169/cnotold/P1020374.jpg)
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll169/cnotold/P1020376.jpg)
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Chaos Rex on May 10, 2008, 10:52:52 AM
cnotold, beautiful!
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: cnotold on May 11, 2008, 07:31:14 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Chaos Rex

cnotold, beautiful!

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not as beautiful as your 1 piece bodied N4s[;)]
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Calmante on May 11, 2008, 07:51:36 AM
Beautiful guitars, man.  Not a big fan of autographing the top horn, there, but the guitars are beautiful!
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: cnotold on May 11, 2008, 12:47:09 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Calmante

Beautiful guitars, man.  Not a big fan of autographing the top horn, there, but the guitars are beautiful!



it came with the guitar when i got it, i wasn;t a big fan neither but it grows on u after for a while [:)]
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: ZeGlobox on May 12, 2008, 03:47:13 AM
Nice axes :-)

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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on May 12, 2008, 12:16:08 PM
Hey, cnotold, very nice guitars.  Love the P4 : )

Do you have any pics of the back, as well as both sides of the headstock on your Davies?
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: cnotold on May 13, 2008, 10:46:30 AM
will post them after this week [:)]
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Dexvald on May 14, 2008, 09:38:04 AM
Hi Guys!
I just bought a Washburn N4, but the guy that sold it to me said it was a N2. So I only paid 450$ for it. But after looking around it seems to be a Davies. So could someone please tell me what I bought! Here is some pics to help!! (http://)(http://)(http://)(http://)(http://)(http://)
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Calmante on May 14, 2008, 10:25:57 AM
Try again, Dexvald!  No pictures!
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Dexvald on May 14, 2008, 12:18:24 PM
They are in jpg format. I don´t know how to make this work!!! I think I´ll have to e-mail these pics to you Calmante!
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on May 14, 2008, 10:00:23 PM
Dex -

You need to upload them to a host site like flickr or photobucket and then use the image link tool on this forum (when you post a reply) and paste the link to each photo in your message.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: N4ESA_UK on May 15, 2008, 07:06:58 AM
Cnotold, Is that the Davies that was listed in the uk on the bay about a month or so ago?  I was bidding on it if it was!  Looked like a good buy.

Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: cnotold on May 15, 2008, 11:52:16 AM
quote:
Originally posted by N4ESA_UK

Cnotold, Is that the Davies that was listed in the uk on the bay about a month or so ago?  I was bidding on it if it was!  Looked like a good buy.





yeah, it's so rare in the uk, couldn;t find one anywhere!! saw one davies n4 on ebay about 2 years ago and it's so hard to come by. so i contacted the seller and snatch it good this time [:D]
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: N4ESA_UK on May 16, 2008, 11:39:27 AM
Cool man!  Im after a 93 padauk next....or an N8 :-) I nearly went to USA to get one of those last year.

Im off on holiday soon so couldnt really stretch myself too far for that Davies, looked quite nice but looked like a fine crack on the fingerboard and trem needed a setup?

Lets hope Extreme come to the UK this year so I can get mine signed!!
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: cnotold on May 18, 2008, 07:39:53 AM
it turned out to be just a small dent, i couldn't be care less =) trem just needed to be setup properly, i mean there is no rocket science involved with floyd rose type trem, but kahler works pretty well, stay in tune, tone is somewhat different to schaller ones that i used to play.

I was going to ask you to all, the rear pickup ring it came with is a slanted one. do your davies have the slanted mount rings as well?
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: cnotold on June 27, 2008, 09:37:11 PM
I decided to mod my n4 so here's the parts i bought;
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll169/cnotold/1.jpg)

here is the back of N4. I tried to install d-tuna, but I found that the kahler locking screw is in different size than the supplied ones, it refused to slot into d-tuna. I decided to take some bits off from the tip of the screw by using lathe (about 1.5mm?) and filed the inner housing off d-tuna in order to accomodate the locking shaft, all went well. also installed tremolno (small clamp type), it was a breeze.

(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll169/cnotold/2.jpg)

a problem arose, locking screw is a lil bit short, d-tuna did not slide out fully, decided to take it off in the end. as a result, it left a scar at the tip of the locking screw. kinda cool though, i like it a lot.

(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll169/cnotold/3.jpg)

there are few more parts to come through, will update it once installed. tada!
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on June 28, 2008, 09:39:58 AM
C -

Great job on the mod.  And, great pics too!  Very complete...love the lighting.  Especially frontal shot here at the bottom.  The lighting and the grain almost give the appearance of a carved top...at least toward the the bottom of the guitar.

Oh, and yes, my Davies has the angled/slanted bridge pup ring.  So does my '93 for that matter...and come to think of it, so did my 95.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Chaos Rex on June 28, 2008, 12:52:14 PM
Yes C I agree with Skee (whoa there was too much rhyming there), great shots. too bad about the d-tuna. I saw a shot of Nuno playing with Satellite Party and it looked like he'd routed for the d-tuna.

Slanted pickups rings...all 10 of my N4's including my two Davies have them. As a matter of fact I think every single guitar I have has them. It's pretty standard.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Ayrton on August 02, 2008, 11:03:52 PM
Did someone buy this or did it get shill bidded? It is not like there are thousands of these, so I thought someone might know who ended up with it (if anyone actually did).

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=180269089106&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=008
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: ZeGlobox on August 04, 2008, 06:43:23 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Ayrton

Did someone buy this or did it get shill bidded? It is not like there are thousands of these, so I thought someone might know who ended up with it (if anyone actually did).

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=180269089106&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=008



Pretty sure it's a fake bid ...  ;)
Already saw this 'grip.this'


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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Ayrton on August 04, 2008, 10:03:47 AM
The bidding was suspicious, and when I saw the winner, I figured as much.

I may contact the dealer and see what I can work out, but I think they are drunk on what it may be worth.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Chaos Rex on August 04, 2008, 12:08:39 PM
They aren't. Whether you're in Europe or the US a good looking Davies is going to go for around 2k. If it doesn't it's because it's got something wrong with it or the person selling it just put a BIN price which was low (that's how I snagged one earlier this year for 1500).
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Slav123 on August 29, 2008, 07:34:03 PM
Here is my all original '91 one piece body Davies N4:

(http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk166/Slav123/91%20Davies%20N4/91N4Davies1.jpg)
(http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk166/Slav123/91%20Davies%20N4/91N4Davies8.jpg)
(http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk166/Slav123/91%20Davies%20N4/91N4Davies9.jpg)
(http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk166/Slav123/91%20Davies%20N4/91N4Davies12.jpg)
(http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk166/Slav123/91%20Davies%20N4/91N4Davies41.jpg)
(http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk166/Slav123/91%20Davies%20N4/91N4Davies40.jpg)
(http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk166/Slav123/91%20Davies%20N4/91N4Davies45.jpg)
(http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk166/Slav123/91%20Davies%20N4/91N4Davies4.jpg)

Slav123
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Chaos Rex on August 30, 2008, 12:31:32 AM
Gorgeous Slav and thank you for sharing.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on September 01, 2008, 04:52:03 PM
Man, Slav....she's beautiful......now I'm jonesing for a one-piece..... <sigh>...well, actually, I've been drooling over a one-piece for a while now....
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Slav123 on September 01, 2008, 08:46:46 PM
Thanks Guys!
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: herlonguitar on September 21, 2008, 10:31:56 AM
Hey Guys !!! Here goes some pics of my Davies Black. this pics is better, the pics before posted was too big. Xcuse my bad english. Huges

(http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/1483/43985460pu6.jpg)
(http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/1353/33488185uj7.jpg)
(http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/1278/p1050024mm3.jpg)
(http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/4732/83068806ip3.jpg)

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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on November 28, 2008, 09:03:22 AM
Herlon - She's a beaut!  Did you install those B&B pups?  They look like they have the chrome casing...70's or 80's models?
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Vektor67 on December 01, 2008, 12:26:29 AM
Doh I just noticed that this guitar has a truss rod cover on the headstock, so that eliminates it from any sort of Elite status right? Sorry I thought I may have been on to something...:( Now after looking through all of the pictures I don't know what it is I'm looking at, I thought maybe a paduak sp? but the headstock is shaped differently.

Hi, I only heard of the Nuno this evening having come accross one for sale. I see you guys are very passionate about these guitars, particularly the ones made by Davies. Ok now this may hurt a little so I'll try and do it quick, like pulling off a band-aid. This seller decided he wanted to distress his early nineties nuno pro(His Description), and doesn't think he'll get around to putting it together anytime soon. Now thanks to your detailed descriptions and photo's, and if the trem cavity thing is an absolute then this guitar is indeed a Davies model and judging by the body contours it appears to be pre transistion. He said it played great he just want to replace all of the wiring to make it custom, I shudder to think. Anyhow I'm curious what one should expect to pay for one of these. I want a project guitar and if all you guys say is true this looks like it would be fun and worthwhile to restore. Here are the cell phone pics.
(http://mscopp.zenfolio.com/img/v4/p345051492.jpg)
(http://mscopp.zenfolio.com/img/v4/p485699223.jpg)(http://mscopp.zenfolio.com/img/v4/p44662648.jpg)
ANy information you feel willing to share would be very much appreciated, also if I decide not to grab it, I'll forward the relative information. I'd just like to know if what he wants out of it is realistic. Thanks
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: ZeGlobox on December 01, 2008, 03:46:51 AM
do you have smaller pics ? ;-)


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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on December 01, 2008, 06:47:06 AM
Hey, Vektor -

For starters, that's an N2 in alder that has (or had) a padauk stain applied.  It appears that the seller sanded much of it off for that distressed look.  Hard to tell exactly what kind of condition it's in, but for a project N2, I wouldn't pay more than $150 for that body and neck.

Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Coverdale on December 01, 2008, 07:56:37 AM
150$ is too much, considering you can find used N2's for little more. And shouldn't the nut be a Floyd Rose one?
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Vektor67 on December 01, 2008, 10:44:58 AM
Thanks a bunch, I'll be passing on it. I thought I'd struck gold for a sec, those are the only pics he posted, same size and all. So Out of curiosity, why does it have a truss rod cover, none of the n2's that I've seen elsewhere in pics did? , I asked him if it was made in the usa, he answered in the affirmative... oh well it was a nice little dream while it lasted, I enjoy finding treasure. In the mid eighties I traded my new Ginson SG for a Custom  S Style which I still own. I picked it up and knew I had to have it, even though it had red glitter deeply impregnated in it's black paint job, the neck is just so fast, with birdseye maple and large rosewood inlayed fret markers. It's got a headstock reminiscent of some I've seen on a few of Davies guitars. but I don't think he built it. Sorry to have crashed the N4 Party. If I find one in my travels I'll come back and give a shout. Happy Holidays.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: herlonguitar on December 01, 2008, 07:24:16 PM

Skee -  I installed one Bill Lawrence l500 Xl cream on the bridge and one Bill e Becky L500R cream end crome on neck. this l500R had a bass more better than Sd 59. And i think this pickups more beautiful. U agree?
Xcuse my bad english.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on December 02, 2008, 06:57:40 AM
Yep, those pups look great....nice contrast to the black.  I've heard great things about the L500R. A couple of guys on the board have installed them.  Rex installed a l500r, and a SD (can't remember which one) in the bridge.  Heard some clips of it...sounds very tasty!

Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: coolfeel on December 05, 2008, 01:38:21 PM
ZeGlobox - I used to own your Davies N4 with the Floyd Rose.  I had it when it was completely stock with the Kahler Steeler tremolo.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on December 14, 2008, 08:09:43 PM
quote:
Originally posted by herlonguitar

Hey Guys !!! Here goes some pics of my Davies Black. this pics is better, the pics before posted was too big. Xcuse my bad english. Huges

(http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/1483/43985460pu6.jpg)
(http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/1353/33488185uj7.jpg)
(http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/1278/p1050024mm3.jpg)
(http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/4732/83068806ip3.jpg)

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Hey, Herlon - Do you have a pic of the serial#?  If not, can you just post the number?

Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Riffrob on December 23, 2008, 12:13:58 PM
Here's just a couple of pics you might like.  The toggle switch broke off in my hand after all these years (16) so I replaced it with a cream colored one...lightly sanded too so it'd look more like the outside of a bird's egg instead of being all shiny.  The bridge pickup is John Suhr's Doug Aldrich which smokes the USA Lawrence Welk that was in it.  [:o)]
(http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww353/Riffrob/November08116.jpg)

(http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww353/Riffrob/November08118.jpg)

Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on December 23, 2008, 12:41:58 PM
Heh, Lawrence Welk....hilaroius : )

Great pics, Rob, and a beautiful Davies example (I'm pretty sure I've seen yours somewhere before...remarkable grain).  That may be the cleanest Kahler trem I've seen yet.  Also, do you have a pic of the serial number to add to your display?

Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: v74 on December 23, 2008, 03:36:53 PM
Hi Riffrob,

Very nice davies !
Really envy u :)

Peace !
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Riffrob on December 23, 2008, 03:44:04 PM
Hey man, I'm just being silly about the name [:)]  I just took these three more but check this out, I emailed Davies about a year ago and he confirmed that this is one of his AND the serial number they stamped on her was put on wrong (?)...004392  the 43rd week of '92?

(http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww353/Riffrob/November08121.jpg)
(http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww353/Riffrob/November08123.jpg)
(http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww353/Riffrob/November08122.jpg)
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Riffrob on December 23, 2008, 05:06:54 PM
Thanks v74 !  I really like this better than any other instrument I've touched.  I'll never forget the first time I heard it was through the clean channel of a solid state Randall amp at Alpha Music back when it was located in Norfolk, VA...I heard magic in that split second and bought it for a grand right there.  My buddy bought one a month later and I think it may have been a transitional model since his had the Schaller and the patent on the cutaway had the serial # on it.  I'll be posting clips of a Jetter Gain Stage Red on YouTube here shortly but I really need to experiment with mic placement to let my setup shine a little.  (Riffermann on YouTube) and hey, skeesik, nice N4 there..the grain pattern is excellent/interesting.  Did you replace the posts on your Steeler??  Mine are leaning forward just a hair...she floated in the house during Katrina in Pascagoula, MS for a few hours. The case was needless to say ruined but it saved this N4...just a thimbleful of water or so hit the body where the low E post sits so it might have softened the wood there.  I know Alder is already kinda soft to begin with....
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on December 24, 2008, 08:42:57 AM
She's a gem, Rob.  I think I remember your Katrina story from another thread or maybe even another forum.  Maybe on youtube??  I commented on someone jamming with an N4 through a H&K recently.  Anyway, the posts on mine are the original, and they're quite solid.   No issues...with the exception of aesthetics, maybe : )

Wonder how many here remember Lawrence Welk? : )

Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Riffrob on December 24, 2008, 08:35:16 PM
Cool stuff, skeesik..  high praise coming from you, man.  Oh and btw, the Jetter GSR sounded utterly awesome in front of an all tube VOX combo and a small Mesa .22 combo...but alas, at home it sounded frail in front of my SS H&K.  Gonna send it back and try to get lucky with a Zendrive II.  Maybe my amp's just jealous [:I] Anyway, this is just a fun forum to visit...lots o' down to earth folks here who love tone.  Merry Christmas to all....
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: v74 on December 26, 2008, 07:44:49 AM
Hi Riffrob,
Such a great + right decision to get one right away at Norfolk, VA (back to your past).

I should get one N4 Davies in 1991 when I was in the college. At that time I have a very limit budget to buy guitars, so I went for the Ibanez Universe UV77MC instead.
:(  Regret that I should try harder or work harder to get one brand new Davies at that time. !


Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on December 26, 2008, 01:05:28 PM
Hey, Rob - if you're able to get your hands on one for a test drive, try a Barber Direct Drive.  Truly an amazing OD.  I've been able to get quite close to that Brown Sound with this little sweetie.  Not that that's the benchmark for a for any OD pedal.  It was just fun to mess with.  Also, it allow warm feedback at very low vol. levels.  Cool : )
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Riffrob on December 27, 2008, 08:13:18 AM
I've heard about that pedal...I definitely look into that one.  I still couldn't believe that my friend's DSL100 Marshall didn't take the Jetter well at all.  Man, I figured most tube amps were good with pedals in front of 'em...come to think of it, the Jetter sounded weak even in front of his Fender Blues Junior.  Surprised about that... the Vox LOVED it though.  I'll be going to Rebels amps soon to check out the only amps I'm interested in... the Elmwood M60/M90 and the Cornford Hellcat and MK50II.  I'm so stoked! [8)]
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: scrAp on December 27, 2008, 03:10:48 PM
another post out of left field from me but why replace the toggle switch with a cream colored one...didn't most if not all original Davies N4s come with a cream colored switch?

and yes how did you get that Kahler so clean and shiny?  I need to know because I'd like mine to look like that.

Nice Davies btw!
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on December 27, 2008, 03:43:40 PM
Actually, the switch on my Davies was originally black.  Also, if you have a dremel tool, or if you just have patience with taking things apart, you can polish up any trem.  I need to do this as well.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: cnotold on December 27, 2008, 04:51:15 PM
Hi everyone, I have a small question regarding kahler trem on davies N4. I am experiencing wobble trem arm, seems that the screw in hole has somehow been widened. I've bought a replacement part for it but a few months later, it seems that the problem occurs again.

is it common problem with screw-in type trem? or am i doing something terribly wrong? [B)]
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Ayrton on January 08, 2009, 12:24:18 AM
Wrap some Teflon tape around the arm threads to tighten it up.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: the_high_number on January 08, 2009, 02:30:06 AM
The fender trems have a little spring in the hole to add a little bit of pressure to the thread to keep it tight.  all well and good until the guitar tips forward with out the arm in, never to be seen again.

i got one from the fender parts palce many many eyars ago, sure you could get one from any number of online places these days though!!
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: N4ESA_UK on January 08, 2009, 04:31:32 AM
My trem arm used to rock back and forwards when tightened up.  I took the trem apart and the nut on base plate which holds the the trem arm slot needed tightening up.  That was on a schaller though but it may be the same problem?

N4ESA
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80's Korean Strat
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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on January 08, 2009, 07:16:51 AM
C - If it's a kahler trem, there's an allen screw at the bottom of the arm sleeve which you should be able to access through the trem cavity.  If you adjust that to put come pressure on the bottom of the arm, it might tighten up that wobble.  It's also good for adjusting the point at which your arm will cease to screw in....for those who don't like their trem arm to dangle.   With the propert tension, it'll stay where you put it.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Ayrton on January 08, 2009, 08:24:09 PM
quote:
Originally posted by the_high_number

The fender trems have a little spring in the hole to add a little bit of pressure to the thread to keep it tight.  all well and good until the guitar tips forward with out the arm in, never to be seen again.

i got one from the fender parts palce many many eyars ago, sure you could get one from any number of online places these days though!!



That little spring is notorious for galling the block threads, and then the arm snaps off. The first thing I do when setting up a strat is toss out that spring.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Riffrob on January 17, 2009, 02:43:46 PM
Man, I just had to share this with you all...but I just installed a brand new Kahler Steeler trem from Robin Guitars in TX.  So now the guitar looks just like the pictures I posted above.  I was was stunned to find anyone in the known universe to have the Steeler NOS.  $250 will give your Davies a facelift. the pics on this thread here are great....
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on January 17, 2009, 05:43:04 PM
sweet, rob.... Can't wait to see pics!
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: stefN4N8 on January 18, 2009, 03:32:11 AM
Looks stunning Riffrob.

Quick question, you said:

quote:
Here's just a couple of pics you might like. The toggle switch broke off in my hand after all these years (16) so I replaced it with a cream colored one...lightly sanded too so it'd look more like the outside of a bird's egg instead of being all shiny.


What exactly did you sand? I presume you sanded the body a bit to get rid of some of the shine, right? What type of sanding paper (grain size) did you use? Cheers, S.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Riffrob on January 22, 2009, 09:27:19 PM
Oh dude, sorry to be so vague, but I meant that I sanded only the toggle switch itself...NOT the body :)  The new Steeler is pristine and a beauty to behold...*shines*
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: stefN4N8 on January 23, 2009, 07:50:02 AM
No worries! It just didn't seem likely to me that anyone would sand a toggle switch to take the shine off, that it :-)
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: stefN4N8 on January 24, 2009, 06:55:14 AM
After 7 weeks of waiting, here she finally is; my '91 N4 Davies, 1-piece (serial 910815).

(http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg421/stefN4N8/1995Davies-1-piece.jpg)

Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on January 24, 2009, 03:48:41 PM
Let me guess......serial #910915?

Stef...I've been wanting that guitar for a few years : )  I was offered the guitar by the original owner about 3 or so years ago.  Wish I had grabbed it!  She's a gem, stef....enjoy!
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on January 24, 2009, 03:53:46 PM
Shoot...you already mentioned the serial...and I made a typo...geesh.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: BlueBuddha on January 24, 2009, 04:44:06 PM
thats sweet, is it just me, or is the SEC not completely round? and is that a Steeler trem?

awesome looking guitar, how about a video on youtube of it in use? I haven't seen anyone on here playing, but you've all had the chance to see me!

What do you want to do tomorrow?
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on January 24, 2009, 06:47:30 PM
The SEC has that appearance, doesn't it?  

Man.  I'm still drooling.  In my book, this Davies is second only to Nuno's #1.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: stefN4N8 on January 25, 2009, 03:02:45 AM
quote:
thats sweet, is it just me, or is the SEC not completely round? and is that a Steeler trem?


I don't know why, but you're right; the shape is not completely aligned with the top horn - maybe one of Davies' guys was hung over when he carved it ;-) Doesn't bother me one bit though!!

quote:
Man. I'm still drooling. In my book, this Davies is second only to Nuno's #1.


Skee, that's probably the best compliment an N4 owner can ever receive! I must say that this this is *by far* the best playing N4 I have; it plays even better than my '93 Padauk, which is also wonderful. The thing is that the neck is thinner and smoother than any other N4 I've got - and the difference is quite significant. Especially the fact that it's *so* thin, makes you wonder why Washburn ever started manufacturing necks that are so thick. The difference between this Davies and my N4/N3 hommage is quite shocking. Man that has a thick neck...

I'm not a YouTubing kinda guy Buddha; still figuring out how to subscribe to your vids ;-)
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: v74 on January 25, 2009, 06:56:42 AM
wow congratulation !
Really nice one . . . .

oh . . . i wish I find one.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: stefN4N8 on January 25, 2009, 07:06:20 AM
Thanks v74!

BTW, Buddha - the trem is the original USA made Kahler.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: BlueBuddha on January 25, 2009, 09:00:26 AM
Stef, theres a big old yellow button with the word Subscribe to the right of the video box itself, next to the video description! but you do need to be a Youtube member.

it is a bloooooody nice N4, you should be proud! i wanna hear it though!!


hows that kahler hold up? come with the bar?

the dirty body looks freakin awesome too. my paddy is starting to grime up, only makes a guitar look better IMO (though the fretboard is cleaned as often as possible so it still play awesome)

dirty body = brilliant

dirty neck/board = bad!



What do you want to do tomorrow?
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: stefN4N8 on January 25, 2009, 10:01:08 AM
I was just kiddin', I know how to subscribe ;-)

Kahler is fine, it feel pretty similar to a Schaller, but different to a OFR; also a very thick base plate. Agreed, dirty body is pretty cool When I bought it, I was actually toying around with the idea to completely restore as it *is* very reliccy to say but the least. The neck is silky smooth though. But when I opened the box, I though; OMG this looks f*king awesome! The neck isn't clean, but not in a bad way I think. The board is pretty clean.

I'm not saying I'll never completely clean up the body, but not anytime soon; that's for sure.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: stefN4N8 on January 25, 2009, 10:04:39 AM
BB - BTW: I managed to subscribe ;-)
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Riffrob on January 31, 2009, 11:13:29 AM
Awesome Stef...wow and 1 piece..very nice, man!  A unique fingerprint that really makes it special.  SO much better than any painted guitars imho  Skeesik's grain pattern is fantastic too
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: BlueBuddha on January 31, 2009, 12:17:14 PM
no paint will ever beat a good grain. ever.

What do you want to do tomorrow?
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on January 31, 2009, 05:58:06 PM
Couldn't agree more, Buddha.  If anything, enhance the grain, don't cover it up!
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: stefN4N8 on February 01, 2009, 01:43:48 PM
OK - in that case, I will refrain from air-brushing it pink ;-)
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Riffrob on February 01, 2009, 05:55:27 PM
Man, as much as I liked the 80s and all, you're gonna make me nuts, Stef!  Don't be that rich person with no taste, man... [B)]
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: BlueBuddha on February 01, 2009, 06:10:44 PM
rich people with no taste buy Gibson Goldtop '59 re-issues as they're FIRST guitar. yes. i saw that happen in a guitar shop.


Good wood doesn't need painting. Bad wood does.

What do you want to do tomorrow?
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on February 01, 2009, 08:52:46 PM
quote:
Good wood doesn't need painting. Bad wood does.


My new favorite quote.

Brilliant.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Riffrob on February 02, 2009, 08:21:29 PM
Hear, HEAR!
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: benzouille on April 09, 2009, 02:40:56 PM
Hey guys, skeesik, here is my N4. My cam is dead and I don't have a pic of the S/N, but it's 910703. I began with a N1 black (after trying it many times in the guitar shop, till the day I could afford it) and fell in love with this model. For the little story, I did not even know who was Nuno. I finally found the Pornograffitti album... So my next dream was the N4, 10 years after the N1 I finally had the opportunity (and money [:D]) to buy one. I remember, it was something like a quest, I was so excited during the 400 km driving to pick up the lady. The best day of my life [:p].

(http://benjaminrigaill.free.fr/guitares/images/JAN_2006_2 085.jpg)

(http://benjaminrigaill.free.fr/guitares/images/JAN_2006_2 087.jpg)

(http://benjaminrigaill.free.fr/guitares/images/JAN_2006_2 074.jpg)

(http://benjaminrigaill.free.fr/guitares/images/JAN_2006_2 080.jpg)

(http://benjaminrigaill.free.fr/guitares/images/JAN_2006_2 076.jpg)

(http://benjaminrigaill.free.fr/guitares/images/JAN_2006_2 068.jpg)
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: ZeGlobox on April 23, 2009, 10:09:26 AM
(http://benjaminrigaill.free.fr/guitares/images/JAN_2006_2%20085.jpg)
Looks like you've got the twisted neck issue.. very common on early N4s... it's easily fixed !

Viens nous voir ici : ;)
http://www.guitariste.com/forums/bla-bla-et-guitare,vous-avez-une-washburn-n-une-n,146842.html

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2006 relic N4, 2006 Paddy N4, 1993 Padauk N4 ...and the most beatiful 1991-Davies' N4 of all times
http://www.washburn.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9665

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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: vitor_brianmayniaco on May 14, 2009, 03:03:16 PM
Hello guys...
I need help here.....I bought a Black N4 about 6 months ago here in Brazil... The seller said it was a Davies...I paid about 2.000 dollars...it was bought in US, in the 90's.

I've been reading on the internet and figured out that there are just 6 black N4 davies in the world...so I wonder if mine is a real davies or not..
Looking at the differences between a normal one and a davies, it seems mine is a davies for sure. But you know more than me so tell me what you think..
I'm using the guitar every weekend with my band...It's just AMAZING!
but if it's really one of the 6 black davies maybe I should leave it quiet on my bedroom to preserve it, hehe..
I'm gonna put some pics that I took, there's no serial number, because the guy took off the painting from the back of the neck (was black before) now it's just wood.....

Thanks! Cheers...
ps: the last owner put pics of it ins forum before too. The pickup on the neck is a Bill&becky custom…

(http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt209/QUEEN_VITOR/n4davies001.jpg)

(http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt209/QUEEN_VITOR/n4davies010.jpg)

(http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt209/QUEEN_VITOR/n4davies003.jpg)

(http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt209/QUEEN_VITOR/n4davies009.jpg)

(http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt209/QUEEN_VITOR/n4davies006.jpg)

(http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt209/QUEEN_VITOR/n4davies005.jpg)

(http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt209/QUEEN_VITOR/n4davies002.jpg)

Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Calmante on May 14, 2009, 07:12:18 PM
It's hilarious how many of these 6 guitars exist out there...  That looks like a Japanese market N4 to me, brother.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: funkymunky on May 14, 2009, 11:09:42 PM
as Calmante said, it appears to be a japanese made model

not have a stamped serial number on the back of the headstock is pretty suspect

the floyd route on the front of the body, and the tight neck joint make me to question it as being a davies

looks like a killer axe

enjoy it and play it!  guitars are meant to be played

Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: kiyo_jap on May 16, 2009, 09:04:19 AM
hi vitor_brianmayniaco
I think that the guitar is made in Japan in me.
It had been produced made in Japan that was black and was purple N4 in the past.

If it is DAVIES
When the problem is removed, the serial number is described to the body by the felt-tipped marker.
Moreover, the bridge is made of Kahler.

Isn't the guitar for which you are bought here?
http://forums.washburn.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9741&whichpage=8

91'N4 Davies
EA20MB
EBMM EVH
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: ZeGlobox on May 21, 2009, 04:59:25 PM
yeah... really looks like a japanese one... same overall shape as a davies, but no serial and a washburn bridge and nut.. not a davies for sure


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http://www.washburn.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9665

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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: ZeGlobox on May 22, 2009, 12:34:41 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Calmante

It's hilarious how many of these 6 guitars exist out there...  That looks like a Japanese market N4 to me, brother.



funny to see there's a similar one's body on ebay right now :
http://cgi.ebay.com/Washburn-N4-Nuno-Bettencourt-Body_W0QQitemZ110310347094QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar_Accessories?hash=item19af025156&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A0|293%3A1|294%3A50

same Davies/Lahoya/Japanese routing...

I still bet on 'Japanese' though...


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2006 relic N4, 2006 Paddy N4, 1993 Padauk N4 ...and the most beatiful 1991-Davies' N4 of all times
http://www.washburn.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9665

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Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on June 17, 2009, 04:40:57 PM
Just giving this thread a bump in case we have any new Davies owners browsing the forum... [8D]
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Ayrton on October 16, 2009, 09:42:53 PM
Shouldn't this be in the Nuno sub forum anyway?

Bump for the best thread here!
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: pmike on February 11, 2010, 01:09:00 PM
I'm looking into a Davies... like for the 5th time. One thing that strikes me, is that all the Davies's here have a Kahler tremolo and Locking nut. Nuno doesn't have a Kahler, neither trem nor nut.

So I was wondering what it is he uses.

A response I once got from the man himself, Sir Steve Davies, yessir:
Our production primarily used the Kahler and Gotoh, but not entirely. There were a few models built with Schaller, as this one is (feedback on some pictures I send him, ones I found odd at the time because it didn't have a Kahler). I believe some of the early ones had Schaller, but when ordering components in the quantities we needed, Schaller only would make the cast metal trem model available and we preferred a solid steel version so we switched to the Kahler...

Which means there are some N4's out there that have a non-cast solid steel Schaller out there ?

Either way, can't help to wonder how the trem arm can be any good on the Kahlers. It may sound great, but each time you screw the arm back in you create some extra screw wire and can't never ever feel tightly connected, which must be a pin when you actually want to use the trem, no ?
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Calmante on February 11, 2010, 03:11:36 PM
Not to get into the whole story of where Davies N4s really come from, but pmike, you should really just look in to the brand new re-issue N4.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Riffrob on February 12, 2010, 05:06:44 AM
pmike is right about the Kahler Steelers.  I LOVE mine.. it's one rock solid trem and it's got a great flat area for your right hand to rest upon BUT that screw arm thing is tricky..  best thing I've come across is to use a good amount of thread tape on the arm's threads.  I'm not a heavy wham bar user these days so 99% of the time I play without it and just grab the trem block with my right hand... [|)]
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: stefN4N8 on February 12, 2010, 01:17:42 PM
Got to agree with Calmalte here; pretty sure you will love the Funky Munky's Davies reissue, Pmike! I bought a 1-piece Alder Davies reissue from Jon a little while ago and from the day it arrived, it has been competing with my '91 Davies for the #1 spot on my list :-)

These Davies reissue guitars are almost certainly the highest Quality N4s ever built by Washburn I reckon. I'm especially sure you will love its neck profile; no need to shave anything off of this one!
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: pmike on February 12, 2010, 03:06:15 PM
hmmm... is that reissue that good ? Well... For me a Davies was an N4 for built by the Davies team themselves.
Only thing, the screw trem bar that looks like a budget trem system.

Incredible Stef... that you couldn't resist buying a reissue while you have an original omg ;)

Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: stefN4N8 on February 13, 2010, 08:23:59 AM
Honestly, the reissue is magnificent. I have no other word for it (other than freakin' great and superbly built etc ;-))

I must say that initially I was just intrigued by the reissue, but after having played the original and the reissue often now, I can only say they match up well - although they aren't 100% the same of course.

Naturally, the reissue doesn't have the real Davies mojo of actually being built by Stephen Davies' team, but that's about the only negative I can come up with in the context of the reissue.

I can't really recommend one over the other I must say, especially since my Davies is *really* vintage looking and my reissue is *really* clean looking, so I simply play a different one depending on the mood I'm in. Basically, they're equally great. You can't go wrong (as long as you don't buy a Japanese N4 that really resembles a Davies N4 ;-))
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on February 21, 2010, 01:30:12 PM
(Thanks, mod, for putting this thread in the N Series Forum!)

quote:
Originally posted by pmike

I'm looking into a Davies... like for the 5th time. One thing that strikes me, is that all the Davies's here have a Kahler tremolo and Locking nut. Nuno doesn't have a Kahler, neither trem nor nut.


Actually, there are quite a few N4 Davies with Kahler Trems, and Floyd-style locking nuts.  Mine is one.  There are many others in this thread too.

quote:
Either way, can't help to wonder how the trem arm can be any good on the Kahlers. It may sound great, but each time you screw the arm back in you create some extra screw wire and can't never ever feel tightly connected, which must be a pin when you actually want to use the trem, no ?



There is a hex head set screw on the bottom of the trem block that you can adjust to get the trem arm to stop turning at a desired point.  You can even dial in a certain amount of tension so the arm doesn't swing.....it just stays where you put it.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Riffrob on February 25, 2010, 05:16:06 PM
very cool, Skee.. I've never tweaked that screw before and now it just stays where you put it ...no o-rings to replace like on the Floyds...Danke [|)]
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on February 26, 2010, 08:49:16 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Riffrob

very cool, Skee.. I've never tweaked that screw before and now it just stays where you put it ...no o-rings to replace like on the Floyds...Danke [|)]



Glad it worked for you.  Not as slick as the OFR system (although, Floyd used to use the screw-in arm originally), but much better than an unruly, floppy arm.

Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: markgibbon61 on May 02, 2010, 08:07:03 AM
ok, here is my baby

(http://api.ning.com/files/IbpI3GRAuxHWBDqCr1nvd8kHjKVJV3zecw6zsa5p0xdv6CmdlBpbW*YG6yoVLMKgEMxmDZ02pYbVgGhdqb28w66Os*jZQEgo/front_1.jpg)

(http://api.ning.com/files/NaONz1zAoK1tYZZ9KKAiDV-PNEoLML1fXEgI2jh0vo3Bi0-SiOAc9ioxRn-FrEfZs5AzmglLZcJsWa-VGCd4RjR8kWyHvP*T/back_closed.jpg )


(http://api.ning.com/files/2SygPRCZ0TkbZ4wz26UhAQravx4GWhJGqgZCbT95T9BL0HGYEwRh7rg64JvIJPTr8YCU0rQAOhtubKoPximDugg1VlYpxM8K/serial.jpg )

(http://api.ning.com/files/-xPlcJ7w8nCq48Q19Rb1qu4j6fPOVflQTl2FbJYf7P6EVm4zgEr3LuPOynka7OvvXlJ529Q5CSY3lbblOWmSW37IE8VqOLMo/davies_curve.jpg)

(http://api.ning.com/files/NaONz1zAoK13YDQd03uI7FzYnE85PqerhPUn7wBQ3Lvp7RWtJE3dWALprrg7A5W4Iw-S62kV6QKIRZs6pkvQYfXKIbp7r2He/open_back.jpg)

(http://api.ning.com/files/wkxq4AfUgh4fxGFJuum6Hrf37OYbXSH9VBm1mWmTF4W27nTKV-gtbqTv8y2grfEaxY9iv8TSqK4W6iL7SDca56vFiD3wPHXX/trem.jpg )

(http://api.ning.com/files/NaONz1zAoK1tYZZ9KKAiDV-PNEoLML1fXEgI2jh0vo3Bi0-SiOAc9ioxRn-FrEfZs5AzmglLZcJsWa-VGCd4RjR8kWyHvP*T/back_closed.jpg )

(http://)

Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: markgibbon61 on May 02, 2010, 08:36:02 AM
http://api.ning.com/files/NaONz1zAoK1tYZZ9KKAiDV-PNEoLML1fXEgI2jh0vo3Bi0-SiOAc9ioxRn-FrEfZs5AzmglLZcJsWa-VGCd4RjR8kWyHvP*T/back_closed.jpg
http://api.ning.com/files/IbpI3GRAuxHWBDqCr1nvd8kHjKVJV3zecw6zsa5p0xdv6CmdlBpbW*YG6yoVLMKgEMxmDZ02pYbVgGhdqb28w66Os*jZQEgo/front_1.jpg
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Riffrob on May 02, 2010, 02:03:46 PM
a beautiful piece, Mark.  I'm amazed at how 'mint' she is..and the electronics are slim and trim...looks like I've some work to do on mine..thanks for the pictures  [|)]
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on May 02, 2010, 07:38:05 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Riffrob

a beautiful piece, Mark.  I'm amazed at how 'mint' she is..and the electronics are slim and trim...looks like I've some work to do on mine..thanks for the pictures  [|)]



Agreed.  Mark, that's a very tidy Davies you have there.  One of the cleanest Kahler's I've seen.  She's a beaut!
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Rockdebris on August 22, 2010, 10:31:53 PM
There she is!  I am the original owner of this N4.  I was betting myself I would find some recent photos of her and figured this would be a good place to start.  I recognized it the instant this photo appeared.  The 1-piece body, the swirl of the grain and even the dirt are etched in my memory.  (in fact, even the dirt still looks almost identical as when I sold it .... I played this guitar a lot!)

All the way to the Netherlands now, eh? (sniff).  Do as you please, but WHY would one contemplate refinishing it?  People pay extra for dirt like that. [:D]  That is grime from honest play right there, no artistic relic'ing.  

I auctioned it on off in 2005 starting the bidding at $99/No Reserve and finishing up at $2,130 USD.

I see that the person who bought it from me sold it again in 2008 for slightly more.  That is just too short a time to own such a fine instrument!  I'm glad I had my 14 years with her.

Anyway, for posterity I think in my next post I'll show all the photos I had of it and the auction listing.  Let me say, stefN4N8 tells no lie.  This isn't just the finest N4 I ever played, it is one of the finest guitars I've ever played.  Intonation, action, neck feel, sustain .. it was just perfect.  That strange radius at SEC is just part of its charm ... it shows that a luthier put that thing together .. not a machine.

I sold her at a time I was through with Floyd Rose trems.  I sold every guitar I had which had a Floyd Rose licensed trem.  I know that if I remained using those trems, there is no way I would have ever parted with this guitar.  This was the last one to go, and the hardest to bring myself to selling.

BTW, I tried to email stefN4N8 but I guess I'm too new.  If you have any questions about the guitar's history from 1991 - 2005, shoot me an email.


quote:
Originally posted by stefN4N8

After 7 weeks of waiting, here she finally is; my '91 N4 Davies, 1-piece (serial 910815).

(http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg421/stefN4N8/1995Davies-1-piece.jpg)



Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Rockdebris on August 22, 2010, 10:43:50 PM
Here is the auction listing that I saved containing the background on the guitar, complete with all the photos I took for the auction (I have earlier photos .. me playing the guitar on stage, etc. but they aren't digitized):

http://www.rockdebris.com/images/n4/n4.htm

Couple of my favorite shots that I thought represented the guitar well.

(http://www.rockdebris.com/images/n4/n4/in_case_1.jpg)
(http://www.rockdebris.com/images/n4/n4/outdoor_body_1.jpg)
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Junior88 on August 26, 2010, 11:51:14 AM
I freaking love that guitar.

Natural relicing FTW
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: stefN4N8 on August 28, 2010, 10:20:25 AM
Hey Rockdebris.

Wow, I hadn't checked out this forum for weeks and must say I am *very* pleasantly surprised to see your comments on here. Main reason is because even though I absolutely LOVE this guitar and take very, very good care of it, I have always wondered whether the relicing occured naturally or was done artificially. The guy I bought it from (I believe he was Brazilian) couldn't tell me. All he knew it was like that when he bought it.

Anyways, don't worry - it still looks exactly the same as on the pics above. I haven't sanded it at all :-)

For what it's worth; some of the guys on this forum have 'cleaned up' their N4 Davies and some of them actually look stunning. After careful consideration I decided to leave it as is, as even though I didn't know whether it was reliced artificially or not, the relicing on this N4 just makes it look very special.

Regarding emailing me - I think you have to have a certain nr of posts on the forum to have that right. It's low though - 10 or 25 or something.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Rockdebris on August 28, 2010, 01:58:44 PM
Hey stefN4N8,

Yes, the natural relicing during the time I had it was put on in the first 4 years by gigging.  I stopped using this guitar after about 4 years, and it remained in its case for 10 years more or less, with an occasional afternoon playing.  I hold on to gear for a long time ... I even still have all of the pieces of the rig I used to play in 91 with this guitar.

I have a question, and you are definitely the best person to ask.  If at some point I wish to get another N4 for nostalgia, which of the newer ones would I think reminded me most of my old 91?  Feel and sound wise only, not necessarily duplicating its looks.  I tried other iterations of the N4 throughout the mid 90's, looking for a back up, and not one of them made the grade.  The bar was set pretty high by that 91.  I've seen the later models online, and they seem from their descriptions like they might have a shot, but you know as well as I that a guitar may look like another, but that means little when it comes to actually play it.

All this looking at my old N4 made me think of some tracks I recorded with it.  In 1992 a drummer and myself went into the studio to throw down some the backing tracks for a few songs  I used that N4 exclusively for the entire session.  We never got the vocals down.  Anyway, I thought you might like to hear a track all the way from '92 recorded with your guitar:

http://www.rockdebris.com/audio/releases/track01_mastered.mp3

Today it sounds a bit like the greasy kid stuff I used to like, and I wasn't as confident a player as I am now, but what the hell, still a great memory.

Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: stefN4N8 on August 28, 2010, 03:51:06 PM
Hey,

Pretty cool track you recorded back in the days! Not bad at all...

Regarding your question what you should buy to remind you of your '91 N4 - that's a simple question; buy another early model Davies. I own a few '09 and '10 Davies Reissue models (and other N4s from other eras), and even though I have to say especially the Reissue models are significantly better built than most original Davies, they really are different; Period. If you want nostalgia, buy an old guitar, as absolutely nothing else feels like an original Davies.

Don't hold off buying one until you find one that looks like your old guitar, as the only I have come across over the last couple of years that looks this good is the one I have. I'm sure there are others that look like this, but they're super scarce.
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on September 01, 2010, 07:26:29 AM
Ah....one of the best Davies ever to hit ebay : ) Rock, I emailed you back in '04/'05 after I discovered pics of your N4 on your website.  We chatted a bit back and forth and you mentioned how you were considering selling her.  I remember telling you that, at the time, you should expect around $1,200.00 tops.  I was a bit off.  If I remember correctly, I think the sale of your Davies marked the climb in selling prices for the next couple of years.

Anyway, good to see you on the board, and good to see that Davies again.  And, Stef.....I know you've already decided to leave her as is, but, I'll say it anyway....DEFINITELY leave her as is [:D]
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: stefN4N8 on September 01, 2010, 03:24:09 PM
That grime ain't going anywhere, Skee - don't worry ;-)
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on September 01, 2010, 04:15:20 PM
quote:
Originally posted by stefN4N8

That grime ain't going anywhere, Skee - don't worry ;-)



Good plan! [8D]

If I remember correctly, the original owner (Rock) goes by Joe...
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Rockdebris on September 09, 2010, 12:53:51 PM
quote:
Originally posted by skeesik

Ah....one of the best Davies ever to hit ebay : ) Rock, I emailed you back in '04/'05 after I discovered pics of your N4 on your website.  We chatted a bit back and forth and you mentioned how you were considering selling her.  I remember telling you that, at the time, you should expect around $1,200.00 tops.  I was a bit off.  If I remember correctly, I think the sale of your Davies marked the climb in selling prices for the next couple of years.


Yes John, I remember well.  That was by far the highest sale price brought in on eBay up to that point as far as I could see.  I may very well be the person to blame for the run-up on 91 Davies (besides Davies himself for building a great guitar).  I know pretty well how to construct an effective auction, and I didn't want it to let it go for $700 or something, as I had seen others.  I would have honored whatever the final price was, but I knew the quality of the guitar warranted more.  My hope was $1500 or so (about the price of a PRS I had my eye on).

By the way, I only sold it because I visited the Population 1 forum (I think) just checking up on what Nuno was up to.  I saw some posts about N4's and decided to post some pics.  The amount of response I got from people from the blue just wanting to buy it is what turned the light bulb on over my head.  Prior to that, I didn't want to sell it because I didn't think I'd get much for it (sounds crazy today).

I admit, I do miss this guitar once in a while when I want to do something with a trem (but I'm also a huge fan of PRS and the ones I have fit my playing style better overall).
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Rich Dixon on November 11, 2010, 10:07:15 AM
DOH! NOOB ALERT! After spending all day reading this thread after I posted to it, I realize my 2.0 does not qualify as an N4 Davies. I'll leave it up for porn purposes but I'll yank it immediately if I'm outta line here.

I'm the new owner of this 2.0 Pad. I purchased it on ebay and I've actually seen a link to the auction at this forum in a different thread.  

(http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt216/nitrousn2o/n4full.png?t=1289490304)
(http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt216/nitrousn2o/N4.png?t=1289490304)
(http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt216/nitrousn2o/N4case.png?t=1289490304)
(http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt216/nitrousn2o/N4serial.png?t=1289490304)

I had been planning a warmoth kit guitar totally unrelated to an N4, in fact I hadn't thought about Nuno's guitars in about 15 years. But perusing on ebay I saw this one and it reminded me that I always loved Nuno's natural guitars. I researched the model and jumped on it. I have to say the guitar is much nicer than I thought it would be. I expected a production guitar along the lines of a Fender American Standard or an Ibanez JEM. Wrong, this is as nice a guitar as I have ever held. It's so effing classy I almost can't stand it. I want to just play Bach on it until I plug it up, then it breathes fire. It has the 37mm brass block, titanium string blocks, and stainless screws on the floyd. I added the Black Box trem stabilizer which works really well. It's a little clunky to pull up on but that's better than losing pitch bending strings. I think it's even stiff enough to use a dtuna, which I might. Rest assured if I do I'll have a professional routing job done for it or I'll just block out the trem. Don't scream at me, Nuno does it too. [:D]
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Rich Dixon on November 11, 2010, 10:47:33 AM
quote:
Originally posted by markgibbon61

ok, here is my baby


I didn't know some N4's came with Kahler Steelers. When I was a kid I rode my bike up to the guitar store to get a floyd for my kit guitar. I was pissed that all they had was a Kahler floyd but I bought it for $110, half a year's salary as a kid. When my luthier, Tom Keckler of St. Blues guitars here in Memphis, assembled it he told me that under the microscope the Steeler had the smoothest, hardest saddles he'd ever seen on a bridge. Accidental score!
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: davidmcconnell on November 24, 2010, 06:44:26 AM
Hi, I've been meaning to do this for a while but totally forgot!
I had another account which I can't seem to get into so made a new one.
I've put some pics on photobucket for you to check out.
There are a couple of differencies with my Davies N4 than I have seen anywhere else.
1. The input jack it not recessed and does not have a metal plate.
2. The spacing for the neck p'up is closer to the neck and you can hardly see the truss rod.

Are these more common than I think? I haven't seen any N4's the same.

Check it out and let me know, thanks :)

http://s1182.photobucket.com/albums/x457/davidmcconnell4/




N4 Alder (Davies 91 I think)
N2 Alder (91)
A couple of others

If it aint broke, don't fix it!
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Clean Channel on November 10, 2011, 12:19:49 AM
My turn to show off my Davies N4!

Sorry to bump an old thread, but had to get in on this one, as it has so many magnificent contributions!

Here's a few shots of my 1991 'Davies' N4 (SN 910403) and below are a couple shots of my N4 with my four other Stephen's Extended Cutaway guitars (Stephen's Model S, Stephen Davies Model T, Washburn DC60E, Washburn EC29).  If you'd like to see more pics of the Stephen's Model S, I have another thread here:  http://forums.washburn.com/index.php/topic,21540.0.html

(http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h256/minorninth/My%20Guitars/003-2.jpg)

(http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h256/minorninth/My%20Guitars/005.jpg)

(http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h256/minorninth/My%20Guitars/063.jpg)

(http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h256/minorninth/My%20Guitars/001-1.jpg)

(http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h256/minorninth/My%20Guitars/035-1.jpg)
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on December 06, 2011, 12:35:46 PM
Good to see you here, Swish...and lovely Davies you have there.  Kind of wondered if you'd work your way over here from the Munky page :)  Love your Model T....can't wait to get my hands on one...
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Tio Kimo on December 06, 2011, 05:40:50 PM
WOW. Awesome collection there, swish, thanks for sharing. Those Model t's (i looked at your page) are seriously fantastic looking. Love to know more about them.

How has the DC60 held up for you? Any issues?
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Clean Channel on December 07, 2011, 10:07:03 AM
Thanks Skee and Kimo!

I picked up my DC60 used a while back from a fella here in Canada who had bought it new back in the 90s.  Right at the start there had been a problem with the neck where it cracked on the back near the neck joint.  He had it professionally repaired way back then, and it has held up perfectly since then.

The repair is tough to spot if you're not looking for it, but close inspection reveals the line where the crack used to be.  The repair job is really top notch.  Since the fix, the guitar has been problem free (almost two decades!) so I'm confident it'll hold up for years to come!  

It plays great, and the sound is bright and direct; love it!
Title: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: azrapse on December 11, 2011, 02:48:44 AM
I have an N4 Davies, original owner, that I've recorded with and have loved playing - however, I don't utilize at all anymore. My playing style has changed drastically; I seem to be most comfortable with nylon-string guitars, and my favorite seem to be be the Nippon Gaki 1970-era models that litter pawn shops, which are built like a tank and sound like a church - so I'd like to part with the Nuno.

I've lurked around this particular thread for some time since I found it about a year ago (I am a Petrucci forum regular...) and have had a chance to check out the pics, which I am sure I will revisit to stroll down memory lane should the guitar move on.

Its not been a closet queen, but with a little TLC it'll look grand. Original condition, not damaged, plays as good as when I first purchased.

Anyone interested, send me a PM... Thanks, Edward.

 **ps - I can take some pics and post the serial No.# in the morning
Title: Re: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: TapeDeck on July 26, 2012, 12:48:35 AM
I just bought a Davies that some of you probably saw on eBay in the last few weeks.

The owner claimed to have gotten it from Nuno in trade for some gear when Nuno was in Chicagoland recording back in 91 or 92.  He gave it to a local ebay seller friend who was originally aiming for $6000 for the guitar, and then re-listed for $3000.

Those prices are crazy, but I decided to talk to the guy.  A nice dude, not up his butt about the guitar or prices.  I explained that without proof, I have to look at the guitar as a 1991 Davies missing the bar on a tough bridge to find, and that the pickups were non standard--2 Bill Lawrence pups.

We chatted and he agreed to my offered price (way lower than the auction... $1250) 

He insists that the guitar is worth way more, and he's sure it was Nuno's and is on some recording or another... I don't know of any Extreme stuff recorded in Chicagoland during the 90’s but it could have been something for Washburn for NAMM, back when the show was here.  I was a kid.

Anyway... The kicker is that I bought the guitar... For my wife.  And on Saturday I had just bought her a 99 Black USA N4 one off guitar, that I also got a ridiculous deal on (sub $500).

So now she has this mega cool original Davies, with possible history, and I get a bonus N4 of my own.  :). Pics tomorrow!
Title: Re: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Clean Channel on July 27, 2012, 07:49:18 AM
That's awesome!  Congrats on your new Davies N4!

Great to hear you contacted the seller and worked out a good price for the guitar!

I also scored a Davies N4 a while back missing the trem bar.  You can get the exact fit by ordering from Kahler.  I actually saved myself a little note so I would remember exactly what I did:

-The model is a 2760 Steeler
-a good place to order parts from is whammiworld.com

You should find exactly what you need there.
Title: Re: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: TapeDeck on July 27, 2012, 02:38:29 PM
AWESOME.  I'll definitely order a bar or two. 

Here are the pics. 

The guitar and the foot of the new owner, my wife.  :)
Note the two Bill Lawrence pups, supposedly from the factory.
SUPPOSEDLY Nuno's order, but I simply don't care either way, because it's permanently in our collection now...
(http://www.psomusic.com/n4/davies/n4davies2.JPG)

Headstock and Kahler nut (picking up the locks this weekend)
(http://www.psomusic.com/n4/davies/headstock.JPG)

Kahler Bridge
(http://www.psomusic.com/n4/davies/kahler.JPG)

Another shot by the bridge
(http://www.psomusic.com/n4/davies/kahler2.JPG)

The cutout behind the bridge
(http://www.psomusic.com/n4/davies/kahler3.JPG)

ECC Closeup
(http://www.psomusic.com/n4/davies/ECC.JPG)

Back of the guitar (nice one piece body... good grain.)
(http://www.psomusic.com/n4/davies/back.JPG)

Top of the guitar.  Might try to get some of those little marrs worked out with the water/paper trick, but I may just leave them... this guitar isn't supposed to look new.
(http://www.psomusic.com/n4/davies/n4davies.JPG)
Title: Re: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Clean Channel on July 28, 2012, 07:44:06 AM
Thanks for posting the pics!  She's in amazing condition, you really scored! 

That's a beautiful and rare guitar.  I'm happy to know it's in your collection and will be well cared for!
Title: Re: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Clean Channel on September 06, 2012, 08:26:33 AM
Just thought I'd bump the thread and mention that I updated m post (reply #329, on page 22) to include newer, higher resolution pics of my Davies N4 as well as a pic of my most recent N4 related purchase:  a Stephen's Model S!
Title: Re: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: JSA on February 20, 2013, 07:07:01 PM
Hope someone is still following this thread. I just bought an N4 that I think may be a Davies it has all the markings of one. One thing though, if you look at the pictures miks posted on page 14, the serial number reads from left to right starting with 91 and also has Gotoh tuners. Mine is the same way and it seems to be different from the others I have seen. All the others have the 91 at the end of the serial number and have Washburn tuners. Anybody know anything about that? Got it online at GC for a decent price and want to make sure it's not a fake or something before I decide to keep it. Again, look at miks on page 14 of this thread. The back of my headstock looks just like his. Thanks, ya'll seem to be very knowledgeable about these things and any help would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on February 21, 2013, 06:32:32 AM
Hope someone is still following this thread. I just bought an N4 that I think may be a Davies it has all the markings of one. One thing though, if you look at the pictures miks posted on page 14, the serial number reads from left to right starting with 91 and also has Gotoh tuners. Mine is the same way and it seems to be different from the others I have seen. All the others have the 91 at the end of the serial number and have Washburn tuners. Anybody know anything about that? Got it online at GC for a decent price and want to make sure it's not a fake or something before I decide to keep it. Again, look at miks on page 14 of this thread. The back of my headstock looks just like his. Thanks, ya'll seem to be very knowledgeable about these things and any help would be greatly appreciated.

Hey, JSA -

Cool news that you were able to grab a Davies N4!  First off, based only on your serial # description, you probably have a genuine Davies N4 (I only say probably because I haven't seen any photos).  Most of the Davies N4s that I have run across (and those in my photo archive) have the serial #91XXXX, the others are have #XXXX91 or #XXX91.

 Beyond that, hardware bits have varied through out the Davies era.  Some bridge posts have hex heads, some have standard (flat head screwdriver) heads.  Some have Kahler nuts, some have Floyd nuts (with most having Kahler Trems).  Same for tuners, some are Washburn stamped, some are Gotoh.  Actually, I think even the Washburn branded tuners may be made by Gotoh.

Post some photos when you can!  That's what this thread is all about  8)
Title: Re: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: JSA on February 21, 2013, 10:21:24 AM
Hi and thanks for the quick reply. Here's the pic from the original GC ad. I'll get some better ones a little later this evening and get them posted. S# is 910805. Thanks again for the info, I've bee going crazy trying to decide if I should keep it. It's a fantastic guitar! I was just looking at N4's in general, called and got the serial number to try and get some info about it, and came across this site and all the Davies info. As long as it's a legit N4 I'm going to keep it, Davies or not. But It would be pretty cool if it was. You can see the body is 2 pretty different looking pieces of Alder. Not really as noticeable in person as it is in this pic, but you can still see it. Makes it different. I like different. Thanks again for the info!
(http://i.imgur.com/Lcw91AS.jpg) (http://imgur.com/Lcw91AS)
Title: Re: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: skeesik on February 21, 2013, 11:53:28 AM
Hi and thanks for the quick reply. Here's the pic from the original GC ad. I'll get some better ones a little later this evening and get them posted. S# is 910805. Thanks again for the info, I've bee going crazy trying to decide if I should keep it. It's a fantastic guitar! I was just looking at N4's in general, called and got the serial number to try and get some info about it, and came across this site and all the Davies info. As long as it's a legit N4 I'm going to keep it, Davies or not. But It would be pretty cool if it was. You can see the body is 2 pretty different looking pieces of Alder. Not really as noticeable in person as it is in this pic, but you can still see it. Makes it different. I like different. Thanks again for the info!
(http://i.imgur.com/Lcw91AS.jpg) (http://imgur.com/Lcw91AS)

Cool.  from the looks of it, it's a genuine Davies N4.  Most were 2-piece bodies and not all matched perfectly.  But, who cares?  It's the tone right?  All it needs is a good fretboard cleaning (maybe a set up?) and a hot tube amp : )
Title: Re: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Clean Channel on February 21, 2013, 11:42:31 PM
Hey JSA,

Great guitar!  Thanks for posting!

Looks like a genuine Davies N4 to me.  Regarding the serial# 910805, that means  your guitar was the 5th one completed in August, 1991.  That means there's no way could be anything other than a real Davies N4!
Title: Re: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Gunghogringo on March 14, 2013, 03:21:23 PM
JSA, just want you to know I missed that Davies by 10 minutes! It was on GC's used site , I rushed to my local GC to buy it and they called the store (was it in fl? ) and said they had sold it ten minutes ago, don't know if u remember but around that time there was a maple board alder n4 in New York at that same time, so I bought that one instead,,, you got a great deal on that guitar , I couldn't believe the price , mine cost much more and wasn't even a Davies,, lucky bastard!! Lol u are lucky GC is an hour away from my work,, great score , but I'm digin my maple board N4
Title: Re: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: itsinthebone on March 26, 2013, 08:18:54 AM
Here's mine!  Picked it up last month.

(http://i.imgur.com/Us6L2fK.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/2tZVQRE.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ZlvjJoN.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/VMN6oiK.jpg)

It's my 1st N4.  Been dreaming of owning one for years.  Found this one for sale and jumped on it.   I wonder if I got a good deal on it or not.  What is the going rate for one of the 1991 Davies these days?
Title: Re: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Gunghogringo on March 29, 2013, 06:48:56 PM
I've seen them go from $1000-$1800, I just missed one at GC for $999 by 10 minutes, yours looks like a 1 piece body so it would definately be worth around $1800, most I've seen are 2 piece bodies
Title: Re: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: dariolee on May 07, 2013, 10:42:52 PM
I have this picture from a old guitar world.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img51/5295/washburn.jpg)
Title: Re: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: nevusofota on June 10, 2013, 11:25:55 PM
The Davies family ( '91 Davies N4 x 2 and a '92 Davies Model T)

(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee185/idoc2004/SEC%20family/IMG_3115_zpsb57594f8.jpg) (http://s234.photobucket.com/user/idoc2004/media/SEC%20family/IMG_3115_zpsb57594f8.jpg.html)

(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee185/idoc2004/SEC%20family/IMG_3145_zps4622d67c.jpg) (http://s234.photobucket.com/user/idoc2004/media/SEC%20family/IMG_3145_zps4622d67c.jpg.html)

(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee185/idoc2004/SEC%20family/IMG_3142_zpsa42ebd65.jpg) (http://s234.photobucket.com/user/idoc2004/media/SEC%20family/IMG_3142_zpsa42ebd65.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Clean Channel on June 17, 2013, 11:24:03 PM
Beautiful guitars Nevusofota!
Title: Re: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: nevusofota on June 29, 2013, 03:21:26 PM
Beautiful guitars Nevusofota!
Thanks Clean!  I just got my Model T back from getting a few upgrades.  I had jumbo stainless steel frets installed, added a compound radius fret board, and had a hard satin finish put on the back of the neck.  The thing is now an AMAZING guitar!!  I've played $3K Fender Custom Shop Teles that don't play and sound as good as this one.
Title: Re: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: Chaos Rex on August 21, 2013, 01:30:38 PM
So years later I finally have better pics of my Davies. And, no Buck Rogers bed sheet background. Bare with me as these pics are large.
(http://www.imuseum.com/sites/default/files/Washburn_Nuno_Bettencourt_Sig_Model_N4_FF_h_0.jpg)
(http://www.imuseum.com/sites/default/files/Washburn_Nuno_Bettencourt_Sig_Model_N4_FR_h.jpg)

Yes that IS a one piece alder body.

You can check out some of my other Ns on http://www.imuseum.com (http://www.imuseum.com). I have my 93 Padauk and 94 Korina on there.

http://www.imuseum.com/washburn/nuno-bettencourt/n4 (http://www.imuseum.com/washburn/nuno-bettencourt/n4)
Title: Re: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: lone wolf on August 22, 2013, 12:52:56 AM
Nice to see some bigger pics. The one piece body is  beautiful.
Title: Re: Show us your N4 Davies!
Post by: azra on November 20, 2018, 10:37:41 PM
Hi, could someone confirm that mine is an original one?

(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--YresbeME--/f_auto,t_supersize/v1542560029/xlytzz817ud8n3jzdlla.png)

(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--zsok-7fS--/f_auto,t_supersize/v1542560015/s2yjhu9zq5frfujzpaqh.png)

(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--3oNUmJ9d--/f_auto,t_supersize/v1542559999/apujmq88dlchtkszdvms.png)

Thanks!