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Title: Washburn Wing Series
Post by: G3H on July 03, 2008, 08:04:39 AM
Dear Forum members and administrators,

Since information on the old (and my favourite) Washburn Wings so far was pretty minimal on the internet, i decided to start a research on them and to build an informational database-like website on all the Wings ever produced. After 15 months of scavenging information, pics, serial nrs, etc, the site has been launched last monday, it's on

Hereby a request/invitation to all Wing-owners among you to participate in the database and send in pics of your guitars and basses. Everything is welcome, also re-issues. I'm especially looking for pics of Wing basses and guitars from the black and red BBR-series.

It's my goal to make the site as accurate as possible and i hope it will become an important source of information on these great guitars. Feel free to take a look and to give your opinion!

Kind regards,

G3H, Rotterdam, The Netherlands.
winginfo@yahoo.com
Title: Washburn Wing Series
Post by: jlw on July 03, 2008, 10:06:16 AM
Cool!

I intend to contact you with some information about my guitar if you wish to use it for your site.
Title: Washburn Wing Series
Post by: G3H on July 03, 2008, 06:12:24 PM
Please do, i'm after getting pics in there of all the models made.

Thanks!

H.
Title: Washburn Wing Series
Post by: Pike on July 03, 2008, 06:30:35 PM
Nice job G3H!
Title: Washburn Wing Series
Post by: Samwise on October 12, 2008, 02:20:31 PM
I will send you some photos of my yellow 81 raven some when in the next few days. Good job with getting the website together
Title: Washburn Wing Series
Post by: Andy1200 on October 25, 2008, 10:44:26 AM
Few pics in this thread : http://www.washburn.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13549

And here : http://www.washburn.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13691

Edit : You're more than welcome to use my pics btw might wanna email the other members to ask...keep up the good work [:)]
Title: Washburn Wing Series
Post by: DJOD.ORG on December 08, 2008, 03:37:09 PM

Thank you for your great work. Your site is very informative and helps a lot of people to distinguish their own guitars.

Sincerely,

Gary Sir Johan Carlsen III
Title: Washburn Wing Series
Post by: Pike on December 09, 2008, 10:20:55 AM
Hi Gary...
Title: Washburn Wing Series
Post by: DJOD.ORG on December 10, 2008, 11:33:05 AM
Hello Pike among many other Washburn Enthusiasts,

My guitar from Bob Marley obviously has been a controversy in this forum & I'm glad all those threads were closed. Washburn's CEO Rudy, will be making his statements with regards to Bob's rare hawk guitar because he knew everything about this guitar and its origins being with Bob. Just a preview of what Rudy has told us so far, It's one of the first electric guitars we ever made. Customer support are professionals here on Washburn but I ask this question, would they know what goes on behind the desk of the CEO who would obviously know everything that goes on inside and out of his own company? I got on contact Rudy many years ago pertaining to this guitar and he wanted to purchase it from me. I declined and he has been supportive of our project since.

Sincerely,

Gary Sir Johan Carlsen III
Title: Washburn Wing Series
Post by: arykala on December 10, 2008, 12:07:12 PM
Till you actually have the proof to hand - just drop it. The fact that your threads were closed after a Washburn representative told you there is NO RECORD of this ever happening should tell you loads.

You're just after free advertising for your 'lottery' and misusing people's names to get publicity.
--

Washburn HM-24V (proto) / KC 90v /  MG 74/ MG 800 / Fernandes Revolver Pro w\\Sustainer / Chimera (coming soon)

Schecter A7V+
Title: Washburn Wing Series
Post by: DJOD.ORG on December 10, 2008, 12:46:58 PM
Arykala, we are real, not misusing any names at all, you'll see a picture of your good friend Marko here and me as well at http://www.djod.org/our_team.htm . I honestly applaud you for your skepticism as you have the right to be. I've read all the conversations in those threads and I'm pretty sure the Washburn Moderators closed it as a result of back and forth personal attacking between users such as yourself and Marko. The truth will be revealed soon.

Who's better to talk about this guitar than the founder and owner of Washburn himself who knew everything about this guitar inside and out of his own company since he's been CEO in 1975. http://books.google.com/books?id=ABNyua8HRaIC&pg=PA185&lpg=PA185&dq=Rudy+Schlacher+1975&source=web&ots=ajGyL_eIsB&sig=eJlZMEXC-vbA338o1aFcqLhKmYE&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=2&ct=result

Sincerely,

Gary Sir Johan Carlsen III
Title: Washburn Wing Series
Post by: arykala on December 10, 2008, 12:52:26 PM
So you're asking us to believe that the Washburn representative didn't know of this but the CEO did? And to further compound this idiocy, then allowed this story to go unconfirmed when it would be a real PR blast for the company to be linked to Marley? You've been claiming a statement is forthcoming for several months now, as this farce is well documented on Google. I can find in OCTOBER you've been claiming this proof is 'real soon' - its the sort of real soon I would expect from a new version of Windows.

It was closed because it has no proof whatsoever that bears any scrutiny, and has a valuation FAR above any reasonable expectation even if there was anything that constituted real proof. And you now latch onto other threads after your own were closed, therefore risking other people getting their threads closed.

And now posting links totally tangential to the issue and playing his old 'edit posts to get his domain name on the front page'

Please moderators ban this guy.

--

Washburn HM-24V (proto) / KC 90v /  MG 74/ MG 800 / Fernandes Revolver Pro w\\Sustainer / Chimera (coming soon)

Schecter A7V+
Title: Washburn Wing Series
Post by: DJOD.ORG on December 24, 2008, 09:57:29 PM
WANTED TO WISH ALL OF YOU HERE, the Washburn Family, a very happy christmas and a happy new year :) It's crazy here in Vancouver, BC, CANADA with almost 3 feet of snow.

PEACE & ONE LOVE
Title: Washburn Wing Series
Post by: eurotrashed on December 27, 2008, 10:22:56 AM
quote:
Originally posted by DJOD.ORG

Arykala, we are real, not misusing any names at all, you'll see a picture of your good friend Marko here and me as well at http://www.djod.org/our_team.htm .



What the hell is all that crap under your team  airports... motorcycles... walmart with random a random picture here and there.

Your site is shadey as anything, how do you want someone to take you seriously?  You have the most expensive guitar in the world and you can't throw $3000 at a web designer to make your website legit?

We were discussing your guitar on another forum, and this is what I want to know:

He has lots of convincing documentation but this is what I want to know:

Why are there newspaper articles from 10 years ago about him selling it, why does he still have it?

He thought it was only worth like $500 or so until he talked to a pro... Even if that guitar wasn't owned by Bob Marley it is worth over $500 probably. That doesn't add up.

What charities? He says 'a bunch' but never lists them.

The site is just some cheap blog space, and this guitar is worth 6.5 mil...

He is sir. Who knighted him? Paul McCartney gets knighted, not Bob Marley's guitar tech... When asked about this he tells people to just google to find out what knighting is, as if people don't know that part. They want to know about HIM. And Paul McCartney is Sir Paul McCartney, this guy uses it as a nickname Gary Sir Johan...

He is giving away the guitar and also a million dollars to an entrant and a mil to someone's favorite charity.. how many tickets does he plan to sell? How long will it take to sell that many tickets? He got offered 5 mil for it, why didn't he just take that and donate it to charities?

Why does he SPAM every site?

You think if Bob Marley only had a few guitars, that someone would capture him in picture at least once with this guitar.

He says he didn't take pics of Marley with the guitar cause he was just a friend and didn't see himself as some crazed fan, yet don't people take pics of their friends? If he is just a friend why is Marley giving him signed guitar picks and he holds onto them forever? The guitar pick is the most basic form of memorabilia a fan would hold onto. If he was just a friend, why would he still have the pick? Friends give me picks and I lose them, I don't cherish them. Why would Marley give him guitar picks with a short personalized letter if they were just friends, Marley seemed to be doing it as a favor for a fan type of thing

The thread was removed from the Washburn forums as mods and customer service has said there is no such thing, but Sir Johan III or whatever keeps talking about Rudy the CEO that knows all about this guitar and how it was made for Mr. Marley. Yet why hasn't he made a statement yet? Why didn't he intervene on the long running thread on the rather low volume Washburn forum?
Title: Washburn Wing Series
Post by: DJOD.ORG on December 28, 2008, 06:52:22 PM
Good afternoon. Hope you all had a wonderful Christmas.

Answering Euro's questions in behalf of everyone:

1) That newspaper article, not 10, but 12 years ago and all those articles are there to tell you guys about my past and my past too with Bob's guitar to show everyone I have nothing to hide. This is why everything is laid out on the guitar authenticity page. Come to Vancouver, BC, CANADA, go to the Vancouver Public Library Newspaper Archives in downtown Vancouver for the date December 7, 1996. You will find me with Bob's Washburn in the front page cover of the entertainment section with my interviewer being Katherine Monk or you can call them up, have them print one out for you, and they'll mail it to you I think. For my story and my very rare guitar to be featured on the front page of the Entertainment section in a famous Canadian Newspaper such as the Vancouver Sun back in 1996, you have to realize that this is serious guitar talk.

2) The charities are on our main page with banners mixed with the banners of businesses as well. It looks messy, but they are there and clickable too.  Understand that it took me 5 years to connect with all those businesses and charities with banners personally on our main page. They are not there because we found them on the internet and said, hey cool, let's place their banner on our homepage for fun. There are copyrights and laws that prohibit this. We have their permission and they gave me the okay.

3) We know our site looks messy simply because it's not done. Maybe in a month or so, you will see the same look or a brand new look. So please don't judge its look, it is what's inside that truly matters. I have refused millions of dollars from businesses who saw a stake in my vision and because of this; I am using my own money with the help of others so that most of the proceeds go to various charities. That crap with airports, motorcycles, walmart, and other mentioned industries where there are people’s names and a few with pictures are going to be portfolio managers who will be in charge of ticket sales. Also understand that our project at DJOD is not just about Bob’s guitar, there’s much we have to offer and share.

4) Laughing hard, Marko made a mistake about my knighthood by the Queen of England. I laughed at him so hard because that was a big mistake in his part. I’m actually a Norwegian knight passed on through ancestry. This is why some people address to me as Sir. There you go.  But really, who cares? My knighthood is a personal matter. Call me Gary or Sir, it's up to you.

5) Yes, I plan to do give a million dollars away to an individual for just being a member of DJOD. I also plan to give a million dollars away to that individual’s favorite charity which will make it even more fun and exciting for everyone by just being a member in our future launch. I didn't take the 5 million from Michael Lee Chin for the guitar because I know I can give back more than the amount mentioned.

6) Unfortunately, I just saw Bob as a good friend and I could care less that I don't have any pictures being with Bob, him playing his custom hawk, or other famous musicians I’ve been around with such as T-REX, Prince, Eddie Van Halen, Sean P. Diddy Combs, Queen, David Foster, BB King, Billy Joel, Keith Moon, Yngwie Malmsteen, and so on. To me, they're just normal people and because of this I think famous musicians respect me the way Bob Marley did. I valued their personal values & friendships, not their positions in society. Bob Marley gave me his precious Washburn guitar along with a handful of guitar picks as a token of thanks for helping Bob with his guitars and showing Bob my guitar playing skills. Bob Marley also gave me that autograph for fun along with Junior Marvin with smiley faces calling me “Gary Guitar” on Nov. 21, 1979. With legal documented proceedings, Junior Marvin from Bob Marley & The Wailers gladly validated the authenticity of the exchange and of the guitar.

7) Rudy hasn't been able to make his statements due to state of the economy in the USA and because of the holiday season. Rudy is very busy. He has his hands full with his company USMusicCorp in which one of his handles is here which is Washburn among his other ventures. As for the forum moderators here, I personally called Rudy a couple weeks ago to get one of his people to tell the forum moderators of the truth here and I think they know now that Bob Marley's Washburn Guitar is indeed the real deal unless the moderators haven’t heard anything yet. The forum moderators never said this guitar never existed. They said they didn't know and wasn't sure. They closed all those threads because of personal attacking encounters Marko had with other users. Very unprofessional on Marko’s behalf and I gave him hell for that. Marko had grown sick and tired of repeating himself every single time on this forum, but I personally think he did a great job fighting for me paving everyone to the truth and Marko now realizes the kind of shenanigans I have to deal with when I tell people about my guitar from Bob. This is why I have stepped in personally into this forum. And I hope I have answered your questions Euro on behalf of everyone who might be asking the same things.

8) I've come to a conclusion, from sharing my story being with Bob and being given Bob's vintage guitar all over the internet through social media outlets, that my tale is quite shocking and unbelievable to many. All I can really is that the legal documents, the autographs, the letters, the newspaper stories & the guitar really do exist and are true. What else could I possibly say? Once our site is ready where everything is all in its right place, I will be making my future press releases with Mass Media Distribution. You guys here in the Washburn forum have front row seats to the show.

9) Bob Marley's vintage custom hawk is seriously a work of beauty by Washburn Guitars and this is the only one out there in this entire world of its kind in my hands in which I plan to give it away to a lucky fan and individual or group as a prize at DJOD. Bob’s guitar does not have a serial id # on the back of the headstock. Instead, Bob’s name is on it. Rudy told me personally that this guitar is actually one of the first electric guitars that his company ever made and there are only a few in his company at Washburn that know about it. Washburn didn’t make 100 or 1000 Bob Marley signature guitars in 1978-1979. They only made one. Tell me someone you know who has a Washburn guitar that has the same exact attributes as this.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3006/2975059626_092c703579_o.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3008/2975059534_9e7bbf6384_o.jpg)
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP7kLgSS0yQ&fmt=18

Sincerely,
Gary “Sir Johan” Carlsen III aka “Gary Guitar”
Title: Washburn Wing Series
Post by: Cornish Boy on December 29, 2008, 05:05:45 AM
Here we go again, another interesting thread ruined by Spam. Please moderator stop this person hijacking really useful threads and using them for his own purpose.


I Roll With The Eighties And Rock With The Washburns
Title: Washburn Wing Series
Post by: DJOD.ORG on December 29, 2008, 07:23:37 AM
Euro asked me questions and I gladly answered his concerns. Not to mention the many the other users here on the Washburn Forum advertising or what you so call spamming the sale of their personal Washburn guitars. The thread Marko started 2 months ago with my Washburn guitar from Bob Marley had the right to be in this forum like the many other users who have done so. Too bad it had to be closed as the result of back & forth personal attacks. What would be the difference if I started a new thread telling everyone the charity event that's going to be held for Bob's washburn since everybody else here has been advertising the sale of their own personal washburn guitars for their own purpose for a long time? I'm just being honest.

http://www.washburn.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14149

http://www.washburn.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13914

http://www.washburn.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14455

http://www.washburn.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14436

http://www.washburn.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14403

and more.

Sincerely,

Gary Sir Johan Carlsen III
Title: Washburn Wing Series
Post by: Cornish Boy on December 29, 2008, 09:19:54 AM
Get a grip man, your delusions of grandeur are fogging your understanding of the difference between the open sale of personal guitars and your pathetic attempts to drum up interest in a raffle. On the upside I think you should start a new thread, let's just see how interested everyone is in your DJOD.ORG ideas and raffle tickets. At least it should stop you turning a thread that everyone on this site applauds for it's informative and credible information regarding the Wing Series into an advertising hoarding for a raffle!!

I Roll With The Eighties And Rock With The Washburns
Title: Washburn Wing Series
Post by: DJOD.ORG on December 30, 2008, 11:03:39 AM
I’m going to enjoy replying to your comment as I’ve just got back from a meeting. As for my project @ DJOD that includes Bob's guitar and more, you obviously are so quick to judge with your own opinion having no clue how much good I plan to do with the monies raised for organizations that need it the most. Trust me, plenty will want this guitar. I know. It's a thing of beauty as it is the only one of its kind. I came to this thread to thank G3H because he did a great job putting that site together for me and you and everybody else. From what I've seen so far, Bob’s guitar has mixtures of a raven, falcon, & a hawk. Only Washburn could've made a beauty like this back in '78 or '79. Just look at the pictures. Too bad you’ll be in the sideline watching the show while the rest of the world is going to join us in our FUTURE LAUNCH for great causes.  I don’t have to start a new thread. My guitar from Bob and my story is already all over the worldwide web thanks to Marko and the rest of my team with the approval of hundreds of thousands of viewers and going day by day. Not here, but amongst other social networking media sites.

Once we make our press releases with Mass Media Distribution once everything is all in its place, the whole world basically is going to know the truth & I’ll take my chances with the rest of the world vs you who thinks what I’m doing with Bob’s guitar is pathetic. Thanks for that comment, it's people like you that make us work harder to make our world a better place.

For everyone else including the Washburn moderators Stacy & Nick, not going to mention any usernames, there are certain individuals here wanting to start a fueled argument. They did the same thing to Marko and now, they are doing it to me. Personally, I really have no time to go in circles with these certain individuals here. To more of the obvious, this thread was doing just fine until these two certain individuals started posting comments wanting to start an argument and you all can see this from their postings. These individuals were the reasons the thread about my guitar from Bob that Marko started was closed and this is the reason why this thread is moving to that same direction. I could care less if our username here was my name, or DJOD, or Gary Guitar, or Marko’s, or Rudy's or the one that was approved 3 months ago which now is DJOD.org.

What would be the difference if it was G3H or Pike or TioKimo or Marko or Stacy or Nick or Rudy and so on that told everyone the story about Bob's vintage guitar vs. me, nothing at all. But this way, while I'm here, everyone can get the full truth from me, the owner of Bob's vintage guitar, than hearing it from individuals that think they know everything about it when they obviously don't quick to make up their own conspiracy theories.

I'll only mention six important people that know this guitar was indeed from Bob Marley, Julian Marvin & Bob Marley & the Wailers, Ziggy Marley, Rudy Schlacher, & me. Because the last time I recall, I looked at Bob Marley and told him, I already have enough guitars and I don't need another one, it's too much. Then Bob looked at me & said, Take it, because one day, you'll understand. And this is the truth.

As this will be my last post in this thread, again, thanks G3H. I do appreciate your work. Your site is very easy to navigate & very useful. I wish you all a great New Year & a Happy 2009. Glad to have spent my little time here in the Washburn Forum.  

Sincerely,

Gary Sir Johan Carlsen III
Title: Washburn Wing Series
Post by: C.T. on December 30, 2008, 06:07:40 PM
Uhh...
Fruitcake?[;)]
Title: Washburn Wing Series
Post by: norfolkngood on January 04, 2009, 06:12:10 PM
Stateside administrators... come on, wake up.
What G3H is trying to do here is going to be of interest to many Washburn players but this thread has been hijacked by someone trying to flog an overpriced old guitar with the provenance of a dog turd!
Please delete the posts about the Bob Marley guitar & let G3H get some useful replies to his request.
Norfolkngood
Title: Washburn Wing Series
Post by: DJOD.ORG on January 04, 2009, 11:28:56 PM
quote:
Originally posted by G3H

Dear Forum members and administrators,
Hereby a request/invitation to all Wing-owners among you to participate in the database and send in pics of your guitars and basses. Everything is welcome


Bob's guitar has already been authenticated valid with legal proceedings from Junior Marvin of Bob Marley & The Wailers.

(http://www.djod.org/Info%20P6.jpg)

If anymore comments come from UK Washburn users for the sake of arguing, you can argue among yourselves. It's you guys ruining this thread, not us.

http://Mary Jael VP of DJOD
Title: Washburn Wing Series
Post by: DJOD_IS_A_Fraud on August 18, 2009, 10:16:30 PM
Just to let you all know he is a compleate con artest. I have personaly delt with him on many ocations! He has also on many ocastions tried to get me to invest money into his website with promises of returns in the millions. I would also garenty if you were to contact most if not all of his seposid sponsers they would tell you they are not involved and don't even know him. I know for a fact Wal-Mart is not apart of his site like he claims they are. As a mater of fact from what I have been told from people I know who work there he threatends to sew them at least once a mounth if they won't return his mertiondise that he bought over 2 years ago! Infact he brags to the staff about being a pimp. When he comes in shopping I am told he is always briging in woman who look evan nastier the paulin street hookers!
Title: Washburn Wing Series
Post by: G3H on August 25, 2009, 06:25:56 PM
Well.. fraud or not, the guitar looks like an ordinary old Falcon and certainly isn't a Hawk.
Title: Washburn Wing Series
Post by: Junior88 on August 25, 2009, 06:54:45 PM
quote:
Washburn didn’t make 100 or 1000 Bob Marley signature guitars in 1978-1979. They only made one. Tell me someone you know who has a Washburn guitar that has the same exact attributes as this.



Nobody. Especially not you. This whole Bob Marley wing series deal is a load of bull you know what...


Moderators, Nick, Please ban this guy, for the sake of the ACTUAL washburn lovers.


The small, but mighty collection:
Washburn N2, Barracuda Strat Copy, Art & Lutherie Acoustic, Greg Bennet D-5 Acoustic, Roland Cube 30
Title: Washburn Wing Series
Post by: Racing on August 26, 2009, 02:52:32 AM
G3H is the real deal alright.
For the rest if it,who gives a flying...
Title: Washburn Wing Series
Post by: pollard on December 24, 2009, 12:44:03 AM
HI
 i had just read the post from member ''  djod is a fraud '' wow i mean like is this true as bob marley has been one of my favs all my life . as a girl guitar player in my all girl rock band  '' HOT PU*SY ''  and knowing some of the biggest bands in the world every one knows of  djod.org . as word about this site is around the whole world . i had talked to ziggy marley and he told me that his dad did give this sir john 111 guy his guitar , so now what do i think , do i buy tickets for this event like the rest of the world or dont i buy tickets. i have noticed that the djod.org site is not completed and is still under construction.

                                                                                                                                             
Title: Washburn Wing Series
Post by: stmorgandog on September 15, 2011, 06:43:15 PM
I am a new member,and check my date in response to previuos squabbling over said guitar for it has been some time since,but i would be interested to know and indeed point out as im not sure if anyone has to this point but......IF and its a big if this IS/WAS Bob Marleys guitar and the serial numbers,which are out of view further up this page,are indeed serial numbers then why -if it was a ONE off-have serial numbers anyway!?!?!?.And to ask a quite a simple question:- IF this was Mr Marleys guitar then WHY DOESNT THE DECLARATION FROM HIS SON CONTAIN THE MOST IMORTANT ASPECT..PROOF OF SAID GUITARS INDIVIDUALITY-COS I KNOW IF I WAS A LUTHIER I WOULD MOST DEFIFINATELY CONTEMPLATE MY OWN FORGERY COMPLETE WITH PAPERS STATING IT WAS GIVEN TO MY UNCLES FRIENDS BEST MATES COUSIN!!lol-SERIOUSELY THAT STATEMENT FROM JULIAN MARVIN IS ABOUT AS USEFULL AS EARMUFFS AT A MOTORHEAD CONCERT..............MY EVALUATION IS THAT DJOD.ORG IS A PRICK AND SHOULD BE SUITABLY BANNED FROM OWNING CD,s LET ALONE FINE INSTRUMENTS.