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Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: brad22386 on July 24, 2010, 06:37:04 AM
I'm just wondering if Washburn does anything special to keep their 1-piece necks from warping or tilting?

I know USA Jackson uses Quarter sawn wood as opposed to Plain Sawn wood to make their one-piece necks extra sturdy so that they have much less of a chance of warping or tilting over time.

The reason I'm asking this is because I have a USA Natural Face Eraser on the way (in the mail) and I'm a bit worried it will have problems in the future with warping or tilting because of its mahogany 1-piece neck.

Why doesn't Washburn use 3-piece necks more on their higher end models? I for one would feel much better about buying an N4, a WM526 or even an X-series Pro if they were built with three piece necks.

I have a feeling I'm not the only one that feels this way about 1-piece necks.

Your answers will be much appreciated. [;)]

Thanks!

 

Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: darreno27 on July 25, 2010, 05:05:38 AM
1-piece necks are fine if the specific piece of wood being used is a good one.  Qaurter-sawn wood is usually reliable.  3-piece necks, are in general, more expensive to produce.  I have heard resonant properties are changed, but of course this is disputable between opinions.  Hamer did it on all of their guitars, as did Kramer (USA models).  

I wouldn't be worried about a 1-piece neck if it came from a good custom shop, as they make sure a reliable piece of wood is being used.  However, imported guitars are another story.

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Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: NickS on July 25, 2010, 07:19:50 PM
I would think that any reputable guitar manufactuter would know what they are doing after all this time. It's those 50.00 import no-name guitars you have to watch out for.
Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: YerDugliness on July 26, 2010, 01:46:55 PM
I've had three Washburn steel string guitars with one piece necks.....never had a spot of trouble with any of them.

Dugly [8D]

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Guitar Playin' FOOL, retired & attempting to age disgracefully!!
Washburns: WD32SW, D61SW, and C124SW
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Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: brad22386 on July 27, 2010, 08:16:08 AM
Thanks guys,

Your input is much appreciated.
Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: brad22386 on August 31, 2010, 11:04:44 PM
Well, I got the USA Face Eraser and it looks like I was right to be worried.

The only problem with this beautiful guitar is that it has a twist/warp in it's neck, its slightly twisted more on the low E side toward the right of the fretboard near the nut (See picture below). I can't for the life of me intonate it on 3 of the strings, I have it's saddles as far back as I can get them and its still sharp on 3 of the strings, this is a result of the twist/warp. I'll admit it is used and I don't know how good or bad it was treated before I got her but I can't help but feel this is partially Washburn's fault.

I took it to a 40 year experienced repair man & luthier the other day and He explained to me that this kind of warp usually has nothing to do with temperature changes and would happen regardless of how good it was treated over the years because this kind of warp is caused by the wood grain wanting to go back to the way it was when it was a tree and that Washburn obviously used a bad piece of wood for the neck of this guitar.

(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss146/3ST4me/GEDC0710.jpg)
The warp is not as bad as the pic makes it out to be.

If I ever get a USA Custom Washy again I'm going to make sure its built with a solid 3 or 5-piece neck, I'm not taking any more chances. This is the second time I've had a one-piece USA Washy with a neck warp like this and it was also a Mahogany neck like the Face Eraser.

Its safe to say I'm pretty pissed off at both the seller and Washburn right now but don't get me wrong, its still a great guitar and it still plays great regardless of the warp but my confidence in Washburn's one-piece Mahogany neck guitars are gone forever, I wont get fooled again. I still love Washburn and I'm sure not all Washburn's one piece neck guitars warp like this but I still strongly suggest Washburn starts looking at building their Mahogany necks with 3 or more pieces to avoid possible warping in the future. Just my opinion.

The Story: I got my friend in Phoenix to buy the face eraser from some guy who was selling it on craig's list. the guy didn't want to ship to Canada so I got my friend in Phoenix to pick it up for me. My friend met the guy in some random place in Phoenix and bought the guitar for me (using my money) thinking it was mint (its mint besides the warp), unfortunately my friend didn't know what a warped neck looks like so it went undetected until it got here a week later. I knew it was warped the second I got it. I called the seller and he said he would send my money back and all. the guy stopped returning my calls and emails a week/half ago so I am assuming he decided to screw me over. I don't know exactly where he lives in Phoenix and neither does my friends so it seems I can't get legal on his @ss.

Always buy directly from the seller using paypal or some other secure paying method. Don't end up in my situation folks.

I presently have this guitar listed forsale at 500$ but I'm starting to think I want to keep it regardless of the warp since its such a great guitar. Don't quote me on that though.

Night shot outdoor Pron

(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss146/3ST4me/GEDC0749.jpg)(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss146/3ST4me/GEDC0742.jpg)

(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss146/3ST4me/GEDC0740.jpg)

(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss146/3ST4me/GEDC0737.jpg)

(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss146/3ST4me/GEDC0751.jpg)
Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: darreno27 on September 01, 2010, 12:19:33 AM
What a bummer.  Did your luthier mention a truss rod adjustment?
Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: Rocket on September 01, 2010, 12:28:51 AM
quote:
Originally posted by brad22386

...its mint besides the warp...

For a set neck, that's a pretty big besides!
(My brother is healthy besides being decapitated.)
Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: Rocket on September 01, 2010, 12:30:38 AM
quote:
Originally posted by darreno27

Did your luthier mention a truss rod adjustment?

WHAT???
(Please delete that before other people read it!)
Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: brad22386 on September 01, 2010, 12:41:31 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Rocket

quote:
Originally posted by brad22386

...its mint besides the warp...

For a set neck, that's a pretty big besides!
(My brother is healthy besides being decapitated.)



I ment every thing else is in good condition on the guitar but yeah, I hear you.

quote:
Originally posted by darreno27

What a bummer.  Did your luthier mention a truss rod adjustment?



Its a twist/warp not a simple bow or back bow, I wish a fix was as simple as a truss rod adjustment.
Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: the_high_number on September 01, 2010, 04:27:55 AM
I don't think you have cause to be annoyed at washburn about this!!!

you're partially to blame, it's the price we pay for buying guitars without trying them first, i've got one on the way, but if it arrives in a bad condition it's not washburn's fault!!

i don't know what kind of length of waranty washburn provide for this kind of defect, but the original owner would have been best off contacting them to find out if they could sort it!!!
Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: BlueBuddha on September 01, 2010, 05:10:17 AM
looks like maybe 3-5 degrees of twist, commonly known as f**k-all.

Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: darreno27 on September 01, 2010, 09:29:36 AM
Mahogany necks aren't quite as strong as maple when regarding one-piece construction, but again it shouldn't matter if the piece of wood used is a good one.  You think the custom shop would have caught it, but who knows what was up at that point.
Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: brad22386 on September 01, 2010, 11:30:55 AM
quote:
Originally posted by BlueBuddha

looks like maybe 3-5 degrees of twist, commonly known as f**k-all.



I can't intonate or tune the this thing properly for the life of me, its not f*ck all buddy..
Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: brad22386 on September 01, 2010, 11:39:13 AM
quote:
Originally posted by the_high_number

I don't think you have cause to be annoyed at washburn about this!!!

you're partially to blame, it's the price we pay for buying guitars without trying them first, i've got one on the way, but if it arrives in a bad condition it's not washburn's fault!!

i don't know what kind of length of waranty washburn provide for this kind of defect, but the original owner would have been best off contacting them to find out if they could sort it!!!



I took it to a 40 year experienced repair man & luthier the other day and He explained to me that this kind of warp usually has nothing to do with temperature changes and would happen regardless of how good it was treated over the years because this kind of warp is caused by the wood grain wanting to go back to the way it was when it was a tree and that Washburn obviously used a bad piece of wood for the neck of this guitar.
Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: BlueBuddha on September 01, 2010, 11:43:03 AM
going back to the way it was as a tree?


that kinda implies that Washburn untwisted to start with?!


40 years experience is still just ONE MAN's opinion.



are you using a BFTS tuner?
Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: nogin007 on September 01, 2010, 12:36:49 PM
Washburn obviously used a bad piece of wood for the neck of this guitar.

Washburn has more than 40 Years of experience. I have a local luthier that has more experience than that, but he will never touch another of my guitars. He did something that an experienced luthier would never do on a vintage instrument. I'll drive 4 times as far to another one i found out about, that knows what he is doing. As far as using a bad piece of wood. Doubtful!
Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: brad22386 on September 01, 2010, 01:25:07 PM
Every guitar manufacturure makes mistakes from time to time even on their Custom Shop stuff whether you guys want to believe it or not. The facts are the facts and it what it is. Its my fault for buying the guitar with out trying it but the warp is all Washburn, like or not.

Like I said earlier, I still love Washburn and I'm sure not all Washburn's one piece neck guitars warp like this but I still strongly suggest Washburn starts looking at building their Mahogany necks with 3 or more pieces to avoid possible warping in the future. Just my opinion.

I will say no more.
Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: the_high_number on September 01, 2010, 01:57:40 PM
quote:
I took it to a 40 year experienced repair man & luthier the other day and He explained to me that this kind of warp usually has nothing to do with temperature changes and would happen regardless of how good it was treated over the years because this kind of warp is caused by the wood grain wanting to go back to the way it was when it was a tree and that Washburn obviously used a bad piece of wood for the neck of this guitar.



sorry, but you've missed my point.

you bought a guitar, for cash, in another country, that you've need seen or played.

now you're annoyed that it's not as you expected.

this isn't washburn's fault.

it's yours.

your beef is with the guy you bought it from, not washburn.
Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: boynamedsuse on September 01, 2010, 02:46:18 PM
Sometimes this can be addressed by filing the frets, etc. Not the prettiest solution, but a good luthier could do it. Great looking guitar, by the way.
Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: mswhat298 on September 02, 2010, 09:33:53 AM
That's a sharp lookin' guitar, too bad about the neck.
Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: brad22386 on September 02, 2010, 07:40:16 PM
I'm talking back and forth about a possible repair with Ryan Struck at Washburn right now. I'm really on the fence with choosing to get Washburn to repair her or just to sell her. I wish I didn't spend around a $1000 on this guitar already or I would have jumped on Washburn's offer to fix her already. I wish I had the extra cash to get her fixed right now.

Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: nogin007 on September 02, 2010, 08:15:18 PM
Good luck with it, whatever your decision is.
Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: brad22386 on September 02, 2010, 11:25:38 PM
Thanks man.
Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: Junior88 on September 03, 2010, 01:14:07 PM
I'll agree with the others, you can place all the blame. It's your fault too for buying a used guitar sight-unseen online.

I smell a troll.

Washburn N2, Washburn F10S
I've got some other stuff too.. Everything from guitars to a Balalaika.
Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: brad22386 on September 03, 2010, 08:30:47 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Junior88

I'll agree with the others, you can place all the blame. It's your fault too for buying a used guitar sight-unseen online.

I smell a troll.

Washburn N2, Washburn F10S
I've got some other stuff too.. Everything from guitars to a Balalaika.




I don't know what kind of reaction your looking for by saying I smell a troll but your not going to get it me.
Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: darreno27 on September 03, 2010, 10:35:48 PM
Calm down guys.  I don't think the original poster was trying to spark anything - He is just disappointed with his x81 and wondered why it would be twisted.

I myself am surprised to see a recent USA custom shop having a twisted neck.  This isn't some strange 80's import he's talking about that was made from plywood.  This was a USA custom shop piece that retailed for 2k.  The previous owner either did something crazy to it, or the custom shop used a piece they shouldn't have.  3 piece laminated or not, I wouldn't expect a 2009 custom shop guitar to have this kind of problem so early on.  

I hope everything works out with it and Washburn can help you out.  As others said, at least it still looks killer!

Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: nogin007 on September 04, 2010, 09:09:15 AM
The previous owner might not have watched the humidity. Since it was in a desert environment since it was new, then transferred to the climate in Canada, might have had some effect on it. Hard to tell. All the older Gibsons and Martins, made with mahogany necks are still holding up. Give Brad credit. Read his ad. He tells all the details about the guitar. He's not trying to scam anyone, like a lot of sellers do these days. Hope it all works out for him.
Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: Junior88 on September 04, 2010, 10:18:32 AM
Well, nogin, it wouldn't be the first time he tried to scam someone.
quote:
Since it was in a desert environment since it was new, then transferred to the climate in Canada, might have had some effect on it. Hard to tell.

Im guessing you just busted it out of the case as soon as it arrived, right brad? Not giving it time to sit in the case and acclimatize? That probably played a big factor.

Washburn N2, Washburn F10S
I've got some other stuff too.. Everything from guitars to a Balalaika.
Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: Guitaristguy28 on September 04, 2010, 01:52:10 PM
quote:
Originally posted by darreno27

Calm down guys.  I don't think the original poster was trying to spark anything - He is just disappointed with his x81 and wondered why it would be twisted.

I myself am surprised to see a recent USA custom shop having a twisted neck.  This isn't some strange 80's import he's talking about that was made from plywood.  This was a USA custom shop piece that retailed for 2k.  The previous owner either did something crazy to it, or the custom shop used a piece they shouldn't have.  3 piece laminated or not, I wouldn't expect a 2009 custom shop guitar to have this kind of problem so early on.  

I hope everything works out with it and Washburn can help you out.  As others said, at least it still looks killer!



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www.vintagewashburn.com
www.extendedcutaway.com



Based on its serial number 0701094 its almost 4 years old. Not that it makes a big difference. Still only 4 years old and has a warped neck. I'm not pointing any fingers, at this point whether it was environmental conditions or a piece of wood that had some time left to settle/dry will be hard to discern. [?] How much did washbun want to charge to fix it?
Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: cfhmachado on September 04, 2010, 06:28:51 PM
Thats not a one piece neck by the way, ive had 5 Fe's and all have been 2 piece necks like yours. except for one

(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x3/cfhmachado/normal_klili14469io.jpg)
(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x3/cfhmachado/normal_7887853X.jpg)
(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x3/cfhmachado/klili13669io.jpg)
(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x3/cfhmachado/normal_7887854X.jpg)
(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x3/cfhmachado/normal_klili13469io.jpg)
(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x3/cfhmachado/normal_klili15769io.jpg)
Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: Junior88 on September 04, 2010, 08:24:31 PM
Oh WOW brad.

Your neck IS a 2 piece!
Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: darreno27 on September 05, 2010, 02:52:56 PM
Hi Machado.  From the pics it is clear they are set-neck construction, but I can't tell from the pics if they are 2-piece laminated or not. Here's are some examples (sorry for a few bad pics).

Two-piece lamination:

(http://www.fotothing.com/photos/560/56075ccbb52d93b21f5c24911069b198.jpg)

Three-piece lamination:

(http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac287/Darreno27/SDC10562.jpg)


5-piece lamination (notice the two small piece of maple inbetween the purple heart.

(http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac287/Darreno27/SDC10663.jpg)

Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: cfhmachado on September 06, 2010, 11:45:52 AM
no doubt that it is a set neck,but his is a 2 piece

heres a better example (2 piece) look towards the head stock.most if not all the productions were 2 piece, the 1 piece were on a few of the protos or made directly for Jon
(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x3/cfhmachado/0f60_3.jpg)
(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x3/cfhmachado/pic08-09539.jpg)
(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x3/cfhmachado/45d3_3.jpg)
(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x3/cfhmachado/a059_1.jpg)
Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: brad22386 on September 06, 2010, 01:01:16 PM
The neck it self minus the scarf joint is made of one piece of Mahogany, am I wrong?

When I said one-piece I ment the neck it self..
Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: cfhmachado on September 06, 2010, 01:05:39 PM
in that case it would be just one piece.
Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: darreno27 on September 06, 2010, 01:16:02 PM
Yes, it is a one-piece.  The scarf joint isn't the lamination we were talking about.  All of them were set-necks as well.
Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: cfhmachado on September 06, 2010, 01:30:22 PM
you keep talking about set necks, who said they weren't ?
Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: Guitaristguy28 on September 06, 2010, 01:45:00 PM
I had a 2005 X81 prototype with a real one piece neck...nothing glued onto it ie: (headstock). I guess having the headstock glued on to a 1 piece neck can be considered 1 piece... but not a true one piece IMO. The full true one piece neck was a option that Jon Donias wanted on his actual models that he'd receive and it takes more time in production from my understanding hence the reason why they didn't do it on the standard production run.
Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: cfhmachado on September 06, 2010, 01:50:02 PM
i feel the same way about the neck a true one piece thats how my snake skin one is.
Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: brad22386 on September 10, 2010, 12:05:38 AM
I've decided to keep it, I'm gonna get her repaired by Washy, She's too much of a nice guitar to let go.
Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: cfhmachado on September 10, 2010, 12:32:47 AM
dang, i was just about to swap that up front you.
Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: dslayden1 on October 16, 2010, 05:48:11 PM
Ok listen up take the guitar and loosen the all the srings from 1 - 4 hange the guitar from the neck in the most hummide part of your house next to the washing machine. check every day to see if it twists back simple if that doesnot work then take all the strings off hange from neck it will twist back just have to play with it. every one else is a moron.
Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: nogin007 on October 16, 2010, 06:54:18 PM
every one else is a moron.

That's some kind of remark to make for a newbie.
Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: Quinn Spalpeen on October 17, 2010, 01:38:02 PM
quote:
Originally posted by nogin007

That's some kind of remark to make for a newbie.



Especially since the twisting/warping is the result of the wood doing what the fibers in it naturally want to do, not what the tension of the strings is causing it to do.  That will be shown when the stringless guitar becomes even more warped/twisted.  It's the sort of thing that no procedure can fix other than replacing the neck. An aged piece of wood is what is, trying to mechanically shape it will only give a temporary fix, which will be worse, faster each time you 'correct' it.

Trying to return the neck back to it's proper position will only make it easier for the wood to do it's thing, by flexing the fibers and making them weaker.

Tis a true thing with all wooden instruments (or all wooden things), after it's aged, there is little (nothing lasting) you can do about that kind of twisting.

Treatment and selection PRIOR to construction is the governing principal here.

By the By: Humidity rarely comes into play with necks, they are finished in such a way that little moisture can enter or leave the wood, which is not the case with body/top, which have one unfinished side open to the air. (I don't know, but think that in an unfinished neck humidity may be a minor factor, but again, the humidity or lack of is only going let the fibers do what they want to do faster, easier.)

Some wood is better than other wood, not species, just different pieces of the same species.
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Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
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Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: brad22386 on December 01, 2010, 07:10:39 PM
Just to update you guys on the intonation issues.

Well, its like I said in my review

I thought at first the twist was causing the intonation issues it was having but after trimming the springs behind some of it's saddles I was able to get her intonated (thank god). Even with its slight twist in her neck she still plays great, no buzzing or issues adjusting the truss rod at all. The twist doesn't effect its playability or feel what so ever. I still have her with very low action and she still sounds and plays amazing.

I only have intonation issues on the low E & G string, its only slightly outta intonation on both strings, barely audible. The twist is truly not that bad at all, she's my main axe for a reason & that's coming from a guitar perfectionist like me.

I'm only selling her because I may have to move, if I catch a break and end up not moving out then I'm going to start building my dream project Axe with the cash. If I was rich I'd keep her for life.





Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: Guitaristguy28 on December 07, 2010, 10:02:02 AM
What was the price you were asking for it?
Title: One piece neck worries (Face Eraser is warped)
Post by: brad22386 on February 10, 2011, 07:39:14 AM
She has been sold for a few months now.