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Vintage and Rare Washburns / Re: Vintage Washburn Identify Please
« on: April 18, 2018, 02:02:35 PM »
What it is I don't know, but that is most certainly not a Washburn or Lyon & Healy made guitar of any era, and neither a prototype for these. Possibly faked label, serial number not conforming at all to the pre WW 2 era.

Hi - I hope I am not too late.

Style 5177 (Dansant) was made between 1925 and 1940. Based on the serial number (4966) I would guess that your banjo was made around 1925.

Yup - these period models can be distinguished by the inlay patterns...the more expensive, the more inlays (DUH). The most expensive styles had a solid pearl fingerboard.

A fine Style 122 Washburn, manufactured around 1900, one of the earlier 122s to receive the extension fingerboard. Beautiful condition, and I love the 'clown shoe' case! The Gibson stuff will not harm the finish, as long as you apply it sparingly, and to the cloth. Good luck!

Agree with ship - but this likely would be a style 121 or 211, and the serial number puts its manufacturing year somewhere around 1897-8.

Really nice 123!

The bridge is a replacement. The original bridge on these guitars, which were intended for gut strings, had a straight saddle a the time. The restorer - who perfectly copied the bridge style of the original (no bridge inlays on a style 123) put in a slanted saddle, which enables a more accurate intonation higher up on the neck. I would assume that the low action was deliberately set for a previous owner, who likely had a light touch and played fingerstyle. In view of the neck condition, I would not be surprised if your guitar also had a neck reset performed by the restorer.

Many - if not all - of these Washburns have a steel non-adjustable bar buried underneath the fingerboard and protruding into the (thin) top. It is the safest to put silk and steel strings on these guitars - many were destroyed by the use of steel strings.

Hi - joining late, but hopefully not too late..

The EIR reference may sound surprising, but it very well may be correct. There has been some hairsplitting type of research done on a few 1930s rosewood-bodied Gibsons and Regals (as you may know, Regal made or assembled this Washburn style 5203). This research even involved a scientific lab analysis of wood fragments by qualified experts, and showed that the rosewood on these 1930s instruments definitely was EIR. This confirmed the earlier suspicions of the owners of these instruments and a few other guitar nuts on the UMGF forum.

About the asking price - this guitar really looks to be in excellent condition and had a neck reset (yay!). Prices in the 3K range and above for this gem are no longer out  of order. I don't know the seller BTW.

Vintage and Rare Washburns / Re: New Model #60359
« on: February 03, 2013, 04:00:40 PM »
That is a nice Style 101, the least expensive Washburn guitar, which was made between 1889 and 1896. In view of the serial number this one would date to somewhere around 1893.

I suggest that you post your queries regarding repairs in the Unofficial Martin Guitar Forum, Vintage section. A lot of extremely knowledgable people, including luthiers. They can give you the best advice, and suggestions for reputable repairpersons in your area. I think the guitar looks nice enough to repair - using that as a wallhanger makes no sense at all...

Vintage and Rare Washburns / Re: Help with Antique Parlor Guitar!
« on: January 13, 2013, 01:30:30 PM »
Your guitar is a Style 115, the cheapest Washburn model made at the time, which was catalogued between 1905 and 1915. Serial number seems to be A 30XXX, which indicates an approx 1913-1914 mfg date.

Vintage and Rare Washburns / Re: 1880's parlor
« on: January 13, 2013, 01:22:14 PM »
You have a Style 112, the second cheapest Washburn made at the time, which was manufactured in the 1897-1905 era. A 227K serial number would  imply that it was made around 1903/04.

Your guitar seems to be a missing part of a puzzle, as Mark indicated - it now looks like there were at least four short lived Hawaiian Washburn models, not listed in the catalogs (well, I have not seen them...), styles 5240, 5242, 5244 and 5246.

Two of these surviving guitars that I have seen have a 18-fret neck (which implies Lyon & Healy/early Stewart era), two have a 19-fret neck (introduced by Stewart around 1929-30). The Lyon & Healy badge does not mean that the guitar was made during the Lyon & Healy manufacturing era (prior to early 1928), since the badge was also affixed to guitars that were sold in the 1930s.

As to the mfg year - the headstock shape used on these guitars was introduced around 1928 IIRC, the soundhole marquetry  and serial number on your guitar are post 1930...I'd estimate that these Hawaiians were first made by JR Stewart in 1928-1930, and a few more after Stewart's bankruptcy by Regal (like yours) with leftover parts dating back to the Stewart era (these parts were bought by Regal at the receiver's sale in 1930).

Barbara is right - a Style 101 from the early 1890s, likely a replacement bridge (they came with straight saddles).

Vintage and Rare Washburns / New Model estate sale purchase
« on: June 11, 2011, 05:51:14 AM »
VERY cool Roy - congrats!

Vintage and Rare Washburns / New Model estate sale purchase
« on: May 25, 2011, 04:50:14 PM »

I've seen one of your Washburns on Ebay before. That one is likely retopped, with a classical style rosette, non original bridge and a new fingerboard as well. Did you do the work?

Oh - and use new low tension strings - they are by all accounts better than the old stuff. Put those in the case.

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