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General Discussion on Washburn Electric Guitars / WIN PRO LITE Series?
« on: November 23, 2011, 04:54:59 PM »
Talk to me about the WIN PRO LITE.  Is this a LP Clone?  Or more of a variation on an LP?  How is the weight?  Pickups?

Thanks,

 - w

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Show Us Your Washburn / WI64 & WI45
« on: April 05, 2010, 07:56:27 PM »
^^^

Thanks!  Yes - I do love that shade of red.  Back in the day a friend of mine was in a local pretty sucessful Rock Band, and he had a trans red Gibson SG.  It reminds me a little bit of that SG.

 - w

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Idol Series / REVIEW: WI45 & WI64
« on: March 31, 2010, 08:08:07 PM »
UPDATE:

Now that I have been playing mainly the WI45, and sometimes back to back with the WI64, I have come to the conclusion that the WI45 is a really nice player.  I also feel that the pickups in the WI45 are really quite good.  They do project a bit more amp noise than the WI64, but they are also richer, and deeper.  Playing it almost exclusively over the last week just solidifies the impressions that I posted earlier about the WI45.

 - w

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Show Us Your Washburn / WI64 & WI45
« on: March 27, 2010, 08:04:17 PM »
Thank you.  I scored the WI45 on eBay, and did get really lucky on that auction.  I ended up getting the WI45 at a bargain price.

 - w

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Show Us Your Washburn / WI64 & WI45
« on: March 27, 2010, 05:01:17 PM »
I posted a review of the two in the Idol forum.  Here are pics.







 - w

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Idol Series / REVIEW: WI45 & WI64
« on: March 27, 2010, 03:50:30 PM »
BACKGROUND:

I have had a Washburn WI64 for about a month, and I was lucky enough to find a WI45 recently, so I thought I would do a comparison of the two.

BODY:

Although they are both idols, the WI45 and WI64 do have different bodies.  They have different contours on the front of the body.  Also the WI45 is thicker by about ½ inch.  The WI45 is heavier weighing about 7.7 lbs. – the WI64 is about 7 lbs.

FEATURES:

The WI45 has full body, and neck binding.  The WI64 is not bound.  The WI45 has inlays on the fretboard – the WI64 has dots.  They both have set necks.  The tuners are Grover on both, and they both have VCC.  For pickups, the WI45 has Randall open humbuckers, the WI64 has WB630 high output pickups.  They both have the Buzz Feiten Tuning System.  The scale length is the same on both – being 24.75 inches.  They both come with the (really nice) GB4 Gigbag.

COMPARISON PLAYING:

OK, this is probably where my review has the most value.  I played the two back to back on my Vox VT30. I should mention that I bought the WI45 used, and even though it looked like the setup was 95% perfect, I did spend some time on a small truss adjustment, and bridge adjustment.  I’m glad I did, as it is a much better player after my setup work.  I think both guitars do very well on clean, low gain, and vintage settings.  When the voices are on high gain is where I begin to see differences between the two guitars.  It is hard to put tone qualities into words, but to my ears the Randall PUP’s on the WI45 sound a little richer than the WB630’s.  They also sound hotter – and this is both good, and bad.  The bad comes into play when playing at a very high gain; it seems more of the amplifier “noise” comes through on the Randalls.  (Some amps do have a control to clean up the noise on high gain – including the Vox VT30.)  The good is that you tend to get stronger sustain, and voicing from a lower gain amp setting.  It might be that the Randalls get a little muddy on high gain.  A work around for this is to use the VCC, switch to neck only PUP’s, or just go to a lower-gain setting on your amp.  I don’t know if it is the PUP’s, or a slight difference in the necks, but I find very high gain a little easier to control on WI64.  I do find that both guitars have great sustain, but the WI45, maybe because of its construction, and added weight, tends to have a bit better sustain.  If I spent a lot of time in metal tones, I would almost have to give the edge to the WI64 – but I don’t – the tone that I go for is just shy of Metal – more of a AC/DC high gain, so really both guitars work really well for my playing.

SO – WHICH IS BETTER ?:

If I had to sell one of the two, I would almost have to say it would be the WI45.  But the reason I say this, the WI45 strikes me closer to a Les Paul or Single Cut type of guitar, and I have others of those in my collection.  The WI64 “feels” like more of a SG type guitar.  I love the red trans finish, and love its lightness.  So a tougher question would be, if I had to sell ALL my guitars, and only keep one of the two which would it be.  This would be hard to answer, and it really depends on how I would use the guitar.  If I played a lot of live gigs, and played some very high gain, and metal, I think I would pick the WI64.  If I played more vintage, and did more recording, I would pick the WI45.

So there you go.  I hope this review will provide some useful information to Washburn enthusiasts out there.  I am an Idol fan.







 - Woody


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Show Us Your Washburn / WI64 in Trans Red
« on: March 25, 2010, 07:49:52 PM »
Thanks.  It is kind of SG-ish.  I really like it.  I love the color, finish, and like that it is light.  The PUP's are probably not THE best I've played - but they are really pretty good.  4 out of 5 stars I would say.  Came with the nice upgraded Washburn Gigbag.

 - w

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Idol Series / WI45 Purchase?
« on: March 25, 2010, 05:48:27 PM »
I just got the black WI45.  It feels about 1/2 lb heavier than my WI64 - seems just under 1/2 inch thicker.  Over the next couple days, I'll play it against the WI64 and do a comparison.

 - w

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Show Us Your Washburn / WI64 in Trans Red
« on: March 25, 2010, 05:39:50 PM »
Thanks.  It has the stock WB630 high output pickups.  They are actually pretty good PUP's.  They do clean, & vintage very well.  Does pretty good with high gain as well.

I just got my WI45.  It is about 1/2 lb lighter than the WI45.

 - w

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Show Us Your Washburn / WI64 in Trans Red
« on: March 23, 2010, 05:31:23 PM »
I got this about a month ago from J&R in the us.







 - w

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Idol Series / WI45 Purchase?
« on: March 21, 2010, 05:27:02 PM »
^^^

You are right.  The black and white ones tend to go cheaper.  I had planned to order a red flammed online, but this afternoon I was watching a black WI45 on eBay, and it was sitting around $160 !  I kept watching and and decided it would be a bargain at around $180.  I bid and won the black one for $170 Shipped!!!

I think you got a very good price on the Honey Burst.  The best prices I have seen on honey, or flammed red hqve been $400 plus range.

 - w

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Idol Series / WI45 Purchase?
« on: March 19, 2010, 03:20:05 PM »
cedwards,

Yes - I have read many of your posts.  It is clear you are very happy with the WI45.  I think my ears are getter more trained as I go along, but like you I think I am not really a cork sniffer when it comes to PUP's.  It is not always in the name, or brand of the pickups. I probably have bought and sold a dozen guitars over the last couple years - but I have one of those First Act guitars they used to give away with VW cars, and I think it has great PUP's.  8 or 9 out of 10 - really.

Anyway - looking forward to the shipment notice.

 - w

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Idol Series / WI45 Purchase?
« on: March 18, 2010, 07:00:18 PM »
UPDATE:  I ordered the WI45 Red Flammed.  There was only one in stock at this vendor - so if the count is wrong I may not get it at all.  I'll know in the next couple business days.

After looking at specs a little closer, it looks like the WI66 Pro in Honey burst comes with gold hardware.  I just don't care for gold hardware.  So this was the deciding factor for me.  I looked at this long and hard.  There is nothing else in this price range by any manufacturer that appeals to me right now.  I figure if I don't care for the PUP's I can swap them out later.  I have done this before on other guitars.  Plus, if I don't like it, I feel I can at least break even selling it on eBay.

I'll try to post pics when I get it.  I'm taking some risk here - 'cause I never played a WI45.  But my WI64 sold me on trying another Idol.

 - w


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Idol Series / WI45 Purchase?
« on: March 18, 2010, 02:32:37 PM »
^^^
Swapping out PUP's is not something I really enjoy doing - but I can do it.  I have done it before.

As far as prices - I just did a Craigslist search for WI66 Pro.  It looks like they are listing used between $600 to $750.  So buying a WI66Pro for around $500 - I might be able to turn a few bucks - but there is no guarantees.  Ditto - I might be able to turn a few bucks on a flammed WI45. (But I don't think I could make a profit on a white or black one.)  But again there are not guarantees.  And it would depend on how patient I would be in selling.  But I'm not buying with the intent to sell - I'm buying to enjoy it.  But I would like to minimize my risks going into this.

I guess I'll look at some pics of WI66 in honeyburst - try to make up my mind.

 - w

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Idol Series / WI45 Purchase?
« on: March 18, 2010, 11:55:05 AM »
OK - Update.  I'm tempted to make this a separate thread - but from haggling with a online vendor - I can get a WI66 Pro w/ the SD PUP's for $500 shipped.  So there is only $120 difference between the red flame WI45, and a honey burst WI45.

So - what would you do?

I think it really comes down to how much better the SD PUP's are over the Randalls.

Money is not really that tight for me.  I could afford either option.  But to my experience a person looses some money when they buy a new guitar, and try to sell as used.  There are some exceptions to this - but to my experience you have to really make a heck of a deal to flip a guitar and make money.

So - are the SD's $120 better than the Randalls?

 - w

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